Is it Really the Time to Consider Firing CKD???

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Small sample size (going back to last year), but it appears we are getting some Jekyll & Hyde. This Alabama team under Coach DeBoer gets up and performs in some games and then does not in others.
Hopefully, whatever Coach DeBoer did to light a fire under these young men's backsides, he does it again and again.
(And I realize that it was ULM, but the team was playing with an intensity that was lacking against FSU).
 

tusks_n_raider

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Small sample size (going back to last year), but it appears we are getting some Jekyll & Hyde. This Alabama team under Coach DeBoer gets up and performs in some games and then does not in others.
Hopefully, whatever Coach DeBoer did to light a fire under these young men's backsides, he does it again and again.
(And I realize that it was ULM, but the team was playing with an intensity that was lacking against FSU).
This week they have a big opportunity to show they mean business and that week 1 was an anomaly.

Under KD they have a history of letdowns after being on an emotional high.

I think 50% or more of the reason they played so well is the overwhelming criticism they heard from the media and their own fanbase.

The other 50% was guys feeling like they better perform because KD was opening up competition at every spot.

Hopefully if we see guys not playing with their head on straight vs Wisc we will see a substitution and if that player plays better he stays on the field.

Brooks should be a starter this week for example.

That kid wants it.
 

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Personally, when Saban quit, I thought about Coach Drink. He probably would have taken the job and seems very comfortable with the new parameters of the game. Also, his teams overperform, so that means he could really excel with our assets.

As a side benefit, he never loses a press conference.

The guy we have may end up being the next legend, but his charisma level is on par with Anthony Grant or Mike Shula. I can't help but wonder if that's part of the reason we never know which version of Alabama is going to show up.
 

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Personally, when Saban quit, I thought about Coach Drink. He probably would have taken the job and seems very comfortable with the new parameters of the game. Also, his teams overperform, so that means he could really excel with our assets.

As a side benefit, he never loses a press conference.

The guy we have may end up being the next legend, but his charisma level is on par with Anthony Grant or Mike Shula. I can't help but wonder if that's part of the reason we never know which version of Alabama is going to show up.
I like Drink and he definitely has passion and doesn't back down. His resume to this point doesn't stack up in terms of getting a job like Alabama. With that being said, Byrne has shown that he isn't afraid to go outside the box with his hires, ie CNO with basketball.

Would I like to see CKD be more "passionate" and energetic? Absolutely. Do I think that passion and energy are the top priorities we need to see from a head coach at Alabama? Absolutely not. To hire someone just because the last guy was lacking it would be a knee jerk reaction. Alabama is a national brand and although we have deficiencies in some areas, particularly NIL, we still are at the top of the top in many other areas.

One thing that hasn't been discussed that could weigh in our favor in terms of holding on to CKD for the next few years, aside from lowering the buyout, is it will give the NCAA time to set its regulations and infrastructure for how NIL will go within its organization. Whoever is running the show needs to have a great grasp and plan for how we are going to leverage what we do have to maximize and take advantage of the system that is put into place. Right now it looks like CKD and staff are doing a great job of constructing a roster that should put us in position to compete at the highest level. The issue's most of us have are that we are not playing consistently to our potential based on the roster that we have.

Last week we obviously looked the part. The issue I have, aside from many of ULM's staff being friends of mine, is we got embarrassed by a formidable opponent and then turned to an old lady walking up the stairs with a cane and pushed her down the stairs. If this is a team that does that this week and against Georgia then I have no issue with it. If this was a one week wake up and then we go back to what we saw against FSU then it was nothing more than bullying. Time will tell...
 

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Personally, when Saban quit, I thought about Coach Drink. He probably would have taken the job and seems very comfortable with the new parameters of the game. Also, his teams overperform, so that means he could really excel with our assets.

As a side benefit, he never loses a press conference.

The guy we have may end up being the next legend, but his charisma level is on par with Anthony Grant or Mike Shula. I can't help but wonder if that's part of the reason we never know which version of Alabama is going to show up.
I think he may be a coach who is best suited for a program like Missouri. It's always assumed that if a coach had more talent, he'd do a lot better. But unfortunately, it just isn't that black and white. Many times, to get better talent, a coach has to go to a bigger program where the pressures and expectations are higher and he becomes the hunted rather than the hunter. There is such a thing as coaches succeeding more as an underdog rather than when they are supposed to win. It's an entirely different animal.

It's what I'm trying to figure out about our current coach, if he's possibly one of those types of coaches.
 

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I think he may be a coach who is best suited for a program like Missouri. It's always assumed that if a coach had more talent, he'd do a lot better. But unfortunately, it just isn't that black and white. Many times, to get better talent, a coach has to go to a bigger program where the pressures and expectations are higher and he becomes the hunted rather than the hunter. There is such a thing as coaches succeeding more as an underdog rather than when they are supposed to win. It's an entirely different animal.

It's what I'm trying to figure out about our current coach, if he's possibly one of those types of coaches.
I dunno, NIL and how it totally skews attitudes and "Teamwork" as we have always known it makes it really difficult for any coach.

I hate the NFL for all the greed...and now it's ruining CFB.😣
 

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I dunno, NIL and how it totally skews attitudes and "Teamwork" as we have always known it makes it really difficult for any coach.

I hate the NFL for all the greed...and now it's ruining CFB.😣
NIL may ruin the experience for some fans but at the end of the day EVERY COLLEGE TEAM IS DEALING WITH IT. I expect Alabama to be the best of the most greedy teams in the country. I expect our greedy players to beat UT's greedy players. I expect our prima donna players to beat UGA's prima donna players..
 

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I think he may be a coach who is best suited for a program like Missouri.

It's what I'm trying to figure out about our current coach, if he's possibly one of those types of coaches.
Yeah, I get that. It's just at least Drink has shown he can keep his head above water in the SEC. DeBoer was more of an unknown in that respect and whether he can adapt is still very much in doubt. I know which one I'd be more confident in today, given the available information.

As far as the coaching search at the time, any coach was going to be a risk, given that they were following the GOAT. Also, Byrne was forced to scramble for whoever was available and would sign quickly. We weren't in the running for any coaches I can think of who are current title contenders either. There was going to be a degree of settling for someone baked into the process IMO.
 
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