Is Kiffin lobbying to be Saban’s successor?

[SavannahDare]

I can't think of a CFB coaching job I'd want less than being the first coach hired after CNS retires from UA. CLK has matured, and I sure do like his style a lot more than in years past, but he's still Lane...and I'm not sure he would want to set himself up for that job at that point in his career. Maybe later...to be the coach that restores Bama after the inevitable Come Apart that will eventually transpire under Saban's successor. That would suit Lane better.

 

[Padreruf]

I can't think of a CFB coaching job I'd want less than being the first coach hired after CNS retires from UA. CLK has matured, and I sure do like his style a lot more than in years past, but he's still Lane...and I'm not sure he would want to set himself up for that job at that point in his career. Maybe later...to be the coach that restores Bama after the inevitable Come Apart that will eventually transpire under Saban's successor. That would suit Lane better.

The old adage...be the guy who follows the guy who followed The Man. Whoever the successor to CNS is...he will be well paid for his almost predetermined "failure."

 

[TideMan09]

The coaching skill set is there, but Kiffin didn’t leave Saban’s staff on the best terms. So the real question is whether he has in fact matured from the years when he was a scandal waiting to happen.

I’m not sure anybody knows the answer to that one.

You make a valid point..I would think that's all water under the bridge with Coach Saban..

Coach Saban has hired some coaches, when other schools wouldn't give them a sniff or a chance, when it comes to his coaching staff it's all business & nothing personal or he seems very forgiving when it comes to his assistant coaches..

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I can't think of a CFB coaching job I'd want less than being the first coach hired after CNS retires from UA. CLK has matured, and I sure do like his style a lot more than in years past, but he's still Lane...and I'm not sure he would want to set himself up for that job at that point in his career. Maybe later...to be the coach that restores Bama after the inevitable Come Apart that will eventually transpire under Saban's successor. That would suit Lane better.

Love your signature! Thomas Sowell is one of my favorite writers & thinkers. I about went into mourning when he retired.

 

[bamadwain]

LSU with Kiffin would be an instant NC caliber team, but with Kiffin’s past history at Tennessee and LSU’s current issues with Title IX I don’t know if they would go after him.

Very good point, but the way the ncaa has handled things lately (Baylor) i don't know if it'll be a issue. I don't think ucheata will get anything

 

[crimsonaudio]

The old adage...be the guy who follows the guy who followed The Man. Whoever the successor to CNS is...he will be well paid for his almost predetermined "failure."

Maybe.

Kiffin is ballsy enough to fully believe he could walk in and keep things humming. And he might be able to. It would assuredly be different, but it wouldn't necessarily be worse.

But my point is I don't think Kiffin is scared one bit about stepping into Saban's shadow - all he's ever done is make bold moves (some ill-advised, but the point stands).

 

[bamaclimber]

Given what we know/have seen of Coach Saban's approach to life, leadership, and football, I can't help but wonder if he might approach his exit transition differently than most retiring coaches/outgoing leaders might. I can imagine him seeing his legacy as including what happens after he leaves, at least in the short term.

I think it would be foolish to expect a continuation of the level of winning Saban has attained, but I don't know that a precipitous drop is inevitable. I'm thinking of the transition from Steve Jobs to Tim Cook at Apple. It was hard to imagine Tim Cook being able to follow Jobs' level of success, but he has.

In the past I would have said that any fanbase would be impatient with not winning at the level the outgoing coach won at, but I think Saban has actually made that a little easier for his successor. Saban's level of winning is so unusual that no one expects that to continue. The expectation will be more about the product on the field, not the outcome of the product. As long as the product is disciplined, has character, and fights hard, winning will take care of itself AND fans will be patient. However, if not winning is accompanied by undisciplined teams with character and effort issues, then that team's coach isn't going to last long.

Long way of saying that if anyone is going to set his successor up for success, it will be Saban. It would very uncharacteristic of him not to.

(This assumes the administration lets Saban have input and influence on the decision...which surely, surely, surely they will.)

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Maybe.

Kiffin is ballsy enough to fully believe he could walk in and keep things humming. And he might be able to. It would assuredly be different, but it wouldn't necessarily be worse.

But my point is I don't think Kiffin is scared one bit about stepping into Saban's shadow - all he's ever done is make bold moves (some ill-advised, but the point stands).

I agree....... if anything, I think he is confident that he could sustain the standard set before him and possibly even take it to greater heights........I think he would be one to relish the challenge to take what the boss did and make it even better, in his own way

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Kiffin's snark combined with Bama's continued success would be hilarious - literally every person who doesn't say "Roll Tide" would hate us, hahaha.

They don't already...?

 

[GrayTide]

I was not a fan of the Kiffin hire at the outset and, am still am not a Kiffin fan. I will give him his due, it appears. he learned quite a bit working for CNS and right now has a very dangerous Ole Miss team believing they can beat the likes of Alabama, LSU, TAMU, and Auburn, which I think they can. I have said quite a few times on here, that if LSU removes Orgeron, Kiffin will be their first choice and I believe he would head to the bayou. Like most, I would prefer Kiffin over Dabo right now, but believe CNS will be around another 2-3 years after this season. So time will tell if Kiffin is available and if he has any interest at that time.

 

[PA Tide Fan]

The way Kiffin is always talking about Bama it almost seems like he is more proud of being a former Saban assistant than he is of being a HC. He really seems to enjoy being the guy the sports media goes to when they are looking for insight into Saban's thought process.

 

[colbysullivan]

We opened as a 17 point favorite over Ole Miss. I'm sorry but that is RIDICULOUS. They're going to give us all we want.

 

[81usaf92]

We opened as a 17 point favorite over Ole Miss. I'm sorry but that is RIDICULOUS. They're going to give us all we want.

It sounds about right to me. It will probably be -13.5 by kick.

 

[GP for Bama]

Maybe.

Kiffin is ballsy enough to fully believe he could walk in and keep things humming. And he might be able to. It would assuredly be different, but it wouldn't necessarily be worse.

But my point is I don't think Kiffin is scared one bit about stepping into Saban's shadow - all he's ever done is make bold moves (some ill-advised, but the point stands).

I agree. Very successful coaches have followed successful coaches in the past. It can be said they are walking into a very good , very talent loaded situation.

Frank Thomas followed Wallace Wade at Bama. Both very successful.
Tom Osbourne followed Bob Devaney at Nebraska. Both very successful.
To a lesser extent Les Miles followed Nick Saban at LSU. Both successful. Miles probably been more successful if he hadn't had to face Saban. .
Lincoln Riley following Bob Stoops. Doing pretty well.

I could probably name others.

The right coach coming after Saban could be VERY successful.

 

[uafanataum]

Les Miles led LSU to a national championship after CNS left and kept them in the conversation for several years after that. It will not take a genius coach to do well at Alabama the first few years after CNS leaves.

 

[PA Tide Fan]

We opened as a 17 point favorite over Ole Miss. I'm sorry but that is RIDICULOUS. They're going to give us all we want.

I think Ole Miss will score in the 30's which means we'd have to score in the 50's to cover. It's possible of course but with our offense not quite as potent as a year ago I wouldn't want to lay that many points.

 

[81usaf92]

I think Ole Miss will score in the 30's which means we'd have to score in the 50's to cover. It's possible of course but with our offense not quite as potent as a year ago I wouldn't want to lay that many points.

The only thing I would touch in the bet is the O/U. The most likely outcome in the game is a two score victory by Bama, and I think by the time kick comes it will be UA -13.5

 

[bamadwain]

I think LK would do well here, besides Sark i believe he is one of the best schemer's there is as well as game day play callers if he hired the right dc he could continue what has been going here for years to come

 

[81usaf92]

Also for the line consider we beat them on the road last year by 15 and no one on here said it was a comfortable win.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I think Ole Miss will score in the 30's which means we'd have to score in the 50's to cover. It's possible of course but with our offense not quite as potent as a year ago I wouldn't want to lay that many points.

I think the defense will probably be ready for this game........ despite the UF showing, I think they have something to prove