BREAKING James Franklin Fired Per CBS Sports

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selmaborntidefan

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That will definitely raise the level of ppressure on getting W’s going forward especially in a place that I don’t think will win a National Title anytime soon. BTW take a look at Indiana’s schedule. Something needs to be done about that. SMH
Well - yes and no.

I don't disagree with the posters who rightly point out Indiana's pathetic schedule. It's a legit point of discussion when we're comparing, say, 1-loss versus 2-loss teams.

But Indiana played the same basic schedule for years and were a 3-9 team - and nobody dared complain about their schedule until they began winning, too. Part of the issue, of course, is that the Big Ten expanded, so Indiana's schedule got diluted as Ohio State and Michigan got replaced by teams like UCLA and Washington. But Indiana did play defending national champion Michigan last year - and what do folks say AFTER THE FACT - "oh, but Michigan wasn't no good!" This is the 2017 Florida State argument all over again. Alabama schedules them, destroys their team, and at the end of the season everyone else wants to say, "But Alabama should have played UCF, Florida State wasn't no good."

What would these same idiots say if we HAD scheduled UCF and blown them out about 70-3?
"Alabama is too chicken to play Florida State!"

Now - the part where I agree with everyone is this: a team cannot help their IN CONFERENCE schedule. The conference hands them that and some years it's going to be tough and some years easy by comparison. And that Penn State game doesn't look as tough now as it did prior to the start of the season. But YES, their OOC is horrific. They played Louisville in 2023 and Cincinnati in 2021 - both hardly powerhouses but at least ranked.

Indiana is playing seven of the same teams they played in 2023 when they went 3-9. Yeah, Ohio State is off, but Oregon has been a national program for years, too.

1) yes, they have improved immensely.
2) it is not SOLELY due to the schedule.
3) but yes, their OOC is pathetic.
 

selmaborntidefan

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Here's the thing with firing Franklin:

Who are you going to get to replace him that is indisputably better?

I get he may have lost the team, I get he had a fair shake, I even get he had begun losing to teams he had beaten easily in the past. All of those are legit things to take into account.

But it's possible for them to wind up FAR WORSE than they were, too. Not just a little bit but far worse.
 

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Not sure if this is enough of a "going home" situation, but it is Penn State, more of a national brand than Indiana, at least in football. His age could be an issue although 64 is no longer old, IMO.

Another potential strong selling point in favor of PSU for Cignetti is that, in a way, he would be going home. The 64-year-old coach is a native of Pittsburgh, an alum of West Virginia, and and he has worked in Pennsylvania multiple times over the years, including in his first head coaching job at Indiana University of Pennsylvania (IUP) from 2011 to 2016.
 

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selmaborntidefan

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Penn State losing to Northwestern is the near equivalent of us losing to Vanderbilt last year. Of course, Franklin didn't just knock off the #2 team in the country a week earlier, either. Indeed, the fact he couldn't win but one of those games in his 11 years - and that one was a fluke if you watched the game - puts it in a different category.
 

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