Kyle Rittenhouse a hero? (update - not guilty on all charges)

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crimsonaudio

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The judge is a biased moron.

Biased? Maybe. Moron? Maybe.

But he's not wrong - the pinch-to-zoom feature does interpolate data.

Which method the algorithm uses (cubic, linear gradient, AI) and how it affects the data would have to be determined by an expert.

ETA: found an AMA where the creator of the forensic video software the prosecution uses weighs in: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/qsjy9s/_/hkdxpvl
 
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Biased? Maybe. Moron? Maybe.

But he's not wrong - the pinch-to-zoom feature does interpolate data.

Which method the algorithm uses (cubic, linear gradient, AI) and how it affects the data would have to be determined by an expert.

ETA: found an AMA where the creator of the forensic video software the prosecution uses weighs in: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/qsjy9s/_/hkdxpvl
I guess all the tech gurus are wrong and you and the judge are right.


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As you might imagine, the defense's claim played fast and loose with the truth. Pinch-to-zoom on all devices may use algorithms, but only to scale the image — it doesn't change the content itself. This was an attempt to prevent the jury from getting a clearer view of the action, not a genuine challenge to the integrity of the video.
 

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LOL, that data interpolation is literally how zooming in works is inarguable.

Whether or not it should be allowed as evidence is above my pay-grade.
The pinch to zoom does adds (or maybe better multiplies) pixel when it zooms. But the judge is still a moron for believing it's done by logarithms.
 

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The pinch to zoom does adds (or maybe better multiplies) pixel when it zooms. But the judge is still a moron for believing it's done by logarithms.
I'm pretty surprised there's apparently no case law wrt this being admissible data at this point. It's a fair point by the defense unless the precise algorithms used are known and fully understood, and it appears this hasn't come up in a trial before.
 

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I'm pretty surprised there's apparently no case law wrt this being admissible data at this point. It's a fair point by the defense unless the precise algorithms used are known and fully understood, and it appears this hasn't come up in a trial before.
The prosecution should have just used MS Paint or something similar to zoom.
 

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No. Open something in MS Paint and zoom down far enough and you'll see the squares.
With Photoshop, it can merge an averaged color from adjacent pixels into a pixel.
Modern cell phones actually do interpolate, using data from different cameras in the phone to come up with an image superior to digital zoom (cropping) but inferior to optical zoom...
 

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What happens if there is a hung jury?
If the jury deadlocks on one charge, the prosecution would have the chance to retry the case only for that charge. The rest of the verdicts would stand as decided.

Also, the judge still hasn't ruled on the defense's motion to declare a mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct:
 
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