Link: LB Chris Landrum commits to Auburn

[ElkhartTider]

I just want to thank cptndelusional for helping me to realize how stupid I was to think Bama was better than Auburn.. and obviously Landrum is the best player in the nation.

Of course Landrum would never have considered Bama.. it's not like he's a legacy and a (former) fan of Bama...lol congrats to Cheezik and staff for beating the crap out of Bama on the recruiting trail and for getting a commitment from the best LB in the nation!!!!


Hahaha.. by the way cptndelusional... you better hope we don't miss out on the 5-6 LB's we've got ranked ahead of him or we'll come calling on him and he'll pull the switcheroo just like Johnathan Atchison did a few years ago.. oh and he's just a national title ring now too.
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[AUTigers001]

This thread has become... interesting since I last read through it. I understand why the captain might get frustrated with some of the posts. I think the "regional" comment was laughable ( we've aleady been through that) and I also have wondered aboutthe 'commitable offer' thing. There may well be higher rated lb's out there that Bama is looking at, but it inno way diminishes Chris and his talent. We are glad to give him an offer that he can commit to.

I think all Auburn fans recognize that Saban is a great coach. We also recognize that our current staff is doing a lot of great things. We believe that we are getting better with each day that this staff remains in tact. I personally believe that Alabama is ahead of where we are, but that the gap is not as wide as it was in January. I think we will be more competitive this year.

Someone mentioned momentum in an earlier post. We have created some at Auburn. We're looking very forward to the season. No doubt that you guys are as well.

 

[Airborne Tider]

It's funny how only Bama fans have slant towards their team. Surely every body that Auburn signed must have had a committable offer from Bama right? Otherwise their existence couldn't be rationalized. Here is a crazy idea. How about you don't come to a Bama board to justify taking a commitment. Why does it matter what we thought of the kid? If Auburn loves him soooo much shouldn't you be happy you signed him regardless of who he has offers from? I can guarantee you when we get a commitment the first thing we do is NOT check if he had an AU offer then go to ITAT and make sure they are ....ed that they lost him. Although I do know what the Auburn fans said when Bama got a commitment from LaMichael Fanning and it was a whole lot of "we didn't want him", "bigger fish to fry", "he didn't start." It works both ways my friend so maybe you should take your holier than thou attitude over to your own fanbase.

The situation is what it is. Bama is the defending National Champs and Auburn is a rebuilding team that went 3-5 in the SEC last season. And you're right there are a few prospects in Alabama would love to have that will probably sign with Auburn. Florence and Rose are both fantastic prospects and I have little doubt that Bama would take both if they could but they will likely both end up at AU. Keep it real... RTR.

 

[rgw]

This thread has become... interesting since I last read through it. I understand why the captain might get frustrated with some of the posts. I think the "regional" comment was laughable ( we've aleady been through that) and I also have wondered aboutthe 'commitable offer' thing. There may well be higher rated lb's out there that Bama is looking at, but it inno way diminishes Chris and his talent. We are glad to give him an offer that he can commit to.

I think all Auburn fans recognize that Saban is a great coach. We also recognize that our current staff is doing a lot of great things. We believe that we are getting better with each day that this staff remains in tact. I personally believe that Alabama is ahead of where we are, but that the gap is not as wide as it was in January. I think we will be more competitive this year.

Someone mentioned momentum in an earlier post. We have created some at Auburn. We're looking very forward to the season. No doubt that you guys are as well.

A commit-able offer is the general idea that there is a big board for each position (targets ranked 1 through whatever; #1 being the best) and each position has certain number of max scholarships available (depending on the staff's "roster calculus"). Obviously, a coaching staff isn't going to recruit 1 through - lets say - 20 at a position and typically take the first - lets say - 3 commitments unless all of the players are very closely graded. The likely scenario is that they recruit all 20 but initially only offer those at the top of the list and slowly work their way down the listing as they gauge the interest of those they offer.

I dunno if the "commit-able offer" thing is real myself, I imagine the closest scenario is that the prospect and parents ask for some kind of ETA on when they can expect an offer and the staff promises an offer by X date or they have already filled their recruitment at that position.

 

[Airborne Tider]

This thread has become... interesting since I last read through it. I understand why the captain might get frustrated with some of the posts. I think the "regional" comment was laughable ( we've aleady been through that) and I also have wondered aboutthe 'commitable offer' thing. There may well be higher rated lb's out there that Bama is looking at, but it inno way diminishes Chris and his talent. We are glad to give him an offer that he can commit to.

I think all Auburn fans recognize that Saban is a great coach. We also recognize that our current staff is doing a lot of great things. We believe that we are getting better with each day that this staff remains in tact. I personally believe that Alabama is ahead of where we are, but that the gap is not as wide as it was in January. I think we will be more competitive this year.

Someone mentioned momentum in an earlier post. We have created some at Auburn. We're looking very forward to the season. No doubt that you guys are as well.

That was a good post from a rival poster. Thank you. You are right on all counts. And you are absolutely correct, out board in NO WAY diminishes Landrum's talent. He is a great kid and I am glad he will play in the SEC. I am glad you are happy that you got the kid because YOU wanted him and not whether Bama wanted him or not.

 

[tidebanker]

This thread has become... interesting since I last read through it. I understand why the captain might get frustrated with some of the posts. I think the "regional" comment was laughable ( we've aleady been through that) and I also have wondered aboutthe 'commitable offer' thing. There may well be higher rated lb's out there that Bama is looking at, but it inno way diminishes Chris and his talent. We are glad to give him an offer that he can commit to.

I think all Auburn fans recognize that Saban is a great coach. We also recognize that our current staff is doing a lot of great things. We believe that we are getting better with each day that this staff remains in tact. I personally believe that Alabama is ahead of where we are, but that the gap is not as wide as it was in January. I think we will be more competitive this year.

Someone mentioned momentum in an earlier post. We have created some at Auburn. We're looking very forward to the season. No doubt that you guys are as well.

Perspective. It's becoming rare. Nice to read.

Accurate too...because it agrees with my own perspective

 

[ElkhartTider]

It's funny how only Bama fans have slant towards their team. Surely every body that Auburn signed must have had a committable offer from Bama right? Otherwise their existence couldn't be rationalized. Here is a crazy idea. How about you don't come to a Bama board to justify taking a commitment. Why does it matter what we thought of the kid? If Auburn loves him soooo much shouldn't you be happy you signed him regardless of who he has offers from? I can guarantee you when we get a commitment the first thing we do is NOT check if he had an AU offer then go to ITAT and make sure they are ....ed that they lost him. Although I do know what the Auburn fans said when Bama got a commitment from LaMichael Fanning and it was a whole lot of "we didn't want him", "bigger fish to fry", "he didn't start." It works both ways my friend so maybe you should take your holier than thou attitude over to your own fanbase.
The situation is what it is. Bama is the defending National Champs and Auburn is a rebuilding team that went 3-5 in the SEC last season. And you're right there are a few prospects in Alabama would love to have that will probably sign with Auburn. Florence and Rose are both fantastic prospects and I have little doubt that Bama would take both if they could but they will likely both end up at AU. Keep it real... RTR.

As Les Miles would say.. that's a damn good post!

 

[BamaInBham]

The "he didn't have a committable offer" is not mentioned for every recruit that Bama has offered but does not get. Dismukes is one case. Bama would have taken his commitment. As AT mentioned, AU is most likely to get Florence and Rose, both of whose commitment Bama would take at this time. Come back when they commit and see the TideFans posters' responses then. Landrum was not such a case - he could not commit at this time.

For committable offers, see Cody Kesslers' comments. He stated after his visit several weeks ago that he had been offered by Bama - he was elated. Then in the course of his interview, he revealed that Bama would take QB commits until after summer camp evaluations. Thus, he had an offer, but he could not commit at this time. (Note: having taken off, he now has "committable" offers from USC and UW and he may commit soon.) My guess is that Bama would take Braxton Miller's commitment at this time , before summer camp evaluations.

As far as "AU recruits regionally", it is not "laughable", it is simply true. au recruits elite prospects, actually almost all prospects, regionally. What national recruit have they gotten ? None. Bama has gotten very few itself. This year, because the in-state talent is down and Bama is able, Bama is recruiting elite prospects much more nationally. Almost all of Bama's elite prospects to this point have come from this region: Julio, Harris, N. Johnson, Fluker, Richardson, Kirkpatrick. Though Ingram came from Michigan, he was not, IMO, a national recruit - also, Bama had a special relationship. This year Bama has a shot (not just on their list) at Trey DePriest, Cyrus Kouandjio, Villiami Moala, Curtis Grant, Rodney Coe, Aaron Green, et al. 5 stars who have a genuine interest in Bama. I'm not counting Clinton-Dix, Vaughters and Crowell even though they are elite prospects, they are from this region.

au is not a national recruiter. i.e., cannot contend for elite (national prospects Bama, UF, USC, Texas, OU, OSU genuinely want - outside the SEC footprint) prospects. It is no shame - there are very few national recruiters and not that many elite national recruits. For the most part it is not worth the trouble and expense. Also, kids from outside are probably less likely to stay. For those few who have a good shot at landing national players it can certainly be worthwhile. au is a regional program in that respect.

(And don't give me JUCOs, especially ones who are originally from the South.)

 

[AUTigers001]

As far as "AU recruits regionally", it is not "laughable", it is simply true. au recruits elite prospects, actually almost all prospects, regionally. What national recruit have they gotten ? None. Bama has gotten very few itself. This year, because the in-state talent is down and Bama is able, Bama is recruiting elite prospects much more nationally. Almost all of Bama's elite prospects to this point have come from this region: Julio, Harris, N. Johnson, Fluker, Richardson, Kirkpatrick. Though Ingram came from Michigan, he was not, IMO, a national recruit - also, Bama had a special relationship. This year Bama has a shot (not just on their list) at Trey DePriest, Cyrus Kouandjio, Villiami Moala, Curtis Grant, Rodney Coe, Aaron Green, et al. 5 stars who have a genuine interest in Bama. I'm not counting Clinton-Dix, Vaughters and Crowell even though they are elite prospects, they are from this region.

au is not a national recruiter. i.e., cannot contend for elite (national prospects Bama, UF, USC, Texas, OU, OSU genuinely want - outside the SEC footprint) prospects. It is no shame - there are very few national recruiters and not that many elite national recruits. For the most part it is not worth the trouble and expense. Also, kids from outside are probably less likely to stay. For those few who have a good shot at landing national players it can certainly be worthwhile. au is a regional program in that respect.

(And don't give me JUCOs, especially ones who are originally from the South.)

The comment was not "AU recruits regionally"... it was Auburn is a regional school and we are a national school.

I still find the comment laughable. Here is one reason: the comment was made in a 'look down the nose at you' tone. That makes me laugh, quite frankly.

Here is another reason:
Alabama has 12 commits to date: 5 from Alabama, 2 from FL, 2 from MS, and one each from LA, TN and GA. Auburn has 6 commits to date: 3 from Alabama, 1 from MS, 1 from GA, and one from Delaware. We've been mildly successful at landing people that we went after outside of the South Eastern US.

You mentioned Ingram... and I agree that he probably wasn't a 'national' recruit at the time you landed him from Michigan... as Tate was not when we got him from Maryland. You got your QB from Texas... and we got a QB from Texas -- and probably neither of them were 'national' recruits when we landed them.

You have a great program. you do... I would be foolish to even try to hint otherwise. However, Auburn is a program that we hope is on the rise and maybe we won't be so easily dismissed by some of you in a couple of years. Our hope is not blind, either... it is tangible. You can say that Auburn is a regional school while trumpeting that UA is national, it's fine. But if you do, I will likely laugh until you actually start landing some of those 'national' recruits outside of the southeast that you talk about adn we start getting shunned by recruits outside of the southeast that we are interested in. Not land just one or two, but your fair share of the ones that are also considering beach front property for their college careers.

I don't intend this to be combative in any way... I re-read it and I don't think it is. If anyone takes offense then please point out the offensive remarks and maybe we can get past them. I don't intend to insult the hosts...

Peace!

 

[mittman]

I am not sure I would even put Bama in the "national recruiting" category quite yet either although it appears that we are getting there. Saban has made no secret of the target area.

That is not to say that if a player outside the arc is a need, is good enough to go after, and shows interest, they have not been considered or given a full press. I do not think that there is a "national" perspective like programs such as USC and ND etc. consistently have.

Some programs can and do move back and forth between recruiting nationally and regionally based on talent levels. "Can" in this case requires a very solid program with a lot of good vibes. Few programs have the resources or national appeal to do this. Fans like to think that their program is one of them. I certainly believe Bama does especially now. I personally do not see Auburn in this category at this time.

I personally do not see how a remark like this would be considered trashing the other program, but I guess emotions can play a part there.

Back to the specific case here. I still see Landrum as a very good prospect. I would love to see him at Bama. As I posted earlier, I suspect this may be a case of taking the first good commitable offer and see what happens later.

 

[BamaInBham]

The comment was not "AU recruits regionally"... it was Auburn is a regional school and we are a national school.

I still find the comment laughable. Here is one reason: the comment was made in a 'look down the nose at you' tone. That makes me laugh, quite frankly.

It was definitely stated in the context of recruiting; in this case recruiting a local kid like Chris Landrum. Go back and look, it could not be more clear.

One of the drawbacks of being able to recruit high-end players nationally is that it leaves more local kids who would have come to Bama available for regional schools like au.

Outside of recruiting, almost every BCS school is national, even many non-BCS schools like TCU, BSU, etc., in that it is known nationally. All SEC schools are. I certainly was not implying that no one knew about au outside the South - that would be ludicrous. They know about Vanderbilt.

I've said more than enough about this. I'm through, I hope .

 

[AUTigers001]

I've said more than enough about this. I'm through, I hope .

I hope you are through as well.

 

[ElkhartTider]

The comment was not "AU recruits regionally"... it was Auburn is a regional school and we are a national school.

I still find the comment laughable. Here is one reason: the comment was made in a 'look down the nose at you' tone. That makes me laugh, quite frankly.

Here is another reason:
Alabama has 12 commits to date: 5 from Alabama, 2 from FL, 2 from MS, and one each from LA, TN and GA. Auburn has 6 commits to date: 3 from Alabama, 1 from MS, 1 from GA, and one from Delaware. We've been mildly successful at landing people that we went after outside of the South Eastern US.

You mentioned Ingram... and I agree that he probably wasn't a 'national' recruit at the time you landed him from Michigan... as Tate was not when we got him from Maryland. You got your QB from Texas... and we got a QB from Texas -- and probably neither of them were 'national' recruits when we landed them.

You have a great program. you do... I would be foolish to even try to hint otherwise. However, Auburn is a program that we hope is on the rise and maybe we won't be so easily dismissed by some of you in a couple of years. Our hope is not blind, either... it is tangible. You can say that Auburn is a regional school while trumpeting that UA is national, it's fine. But if you do, I will likely laugh until you actually start landing some of those 'national' recruits outside of the southeast that you talk about adn we start getting shunned by recruits outside of the southeast that we are interested in. Not land just one or two, but your fair share of the ones that are also considering beach front property for their college careers.

I don't intend this to be combative in any way... I re-read it and I don't think it is. If anyone takes offense then please point out the offensive remarks and maybe we can get past them. I don't intend to insult the hosts...

Peace!

I am not sure I would even put Bama in the "national recruiting" category quite yet either although it appears that we are getting there. Saban has made no secret of the target area.

That is not to say that if a player outside the arc is a need, is good enough to go after, and shows interest, they have not been considered or given a full press. I do not think that there is a "national" perspective like programs such as USC and ND etc. consistently have.

Some programs can and do move back and forth between recruiting nationally and regionally based on talent levels. "Can" in this case requires a very solid program with a lot of good vibes. Few programs have the resources or national appeal to do this. Fans like to think that their program is one of them. I certainly believe Bama does especially now. I personally do not see Auburn in this category at this time.

I personally do not see how a remark like this would be considered trashing the other program, but I guess emotions can play a part there.

Back to the specific case here. I still see Landrum as a very good prospect. I would love to see him at Bama. As I posted earlier, I suspect this may be a case of taking the first good commitable offer and see what happens later.

I don't know why I'm jumping into this argument.. lol but I think what BamaInBham is trying to say is that Alabama has become, once again, a nationally relevant football program.. and it doesn't hurt that we (arguably) have the best football program/tradition in the nation. Don't get me wrong AUTigers001 and cptndelusional (if you haven't been banned already) Auburn has a great football program as well but compared to Bama it's not that impressive. I don't think it's important to sign these national 5*'s to be a "national recruiting school".. we're recruiting kids from WA,AZ,CA,IN,TX,MI,OH... the list goes on and on................. winning a national title will do that for you but we've always just been more of a national name due to our tradition. Trying to be fair here and I think I was.. Oh well I'm sure I'll be flamed anyway lol..

 

[ElephanTideis]

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[bamahippie]

A commit-able offer is the general idea that there is a big board for each position (targets ranked 1 through whatever; #1 being the best) and each position has certain number of max scholarships available (depending on the staff's "roster calculus"). Obviously, a coaching staff isn't going to recruit 1 through - lets say - 20 at a position and typically take the first - lets say - 3 commitments unless all of the players are very closely graded. The likely scenario is that they recruit all 20 but initially only offer those at the top of the list and slowly work their way down the listing as they gauge the interest of those they offer.

I dunno if the "commit-able offer" thing is real myself, I imagine the closest scenario is that the prospect and parents ask for some kind of ETA on when they can expect an offer and the staff promises an offer by X date or they have already filled their recruitment at that position.

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And why is this so hard to understand again? Landrum is down...the...board. We have people further...up...the...board. Our coaches have already evaluated guys that they rate (not based on Rivals/Scout, but their own eyes) higher than Landrum. Furthermore, we have an onlooker that makes a valid point, Landrum is a 1A star, and at RB at that. That translates sometimes. Good luck to Chris, and as another poster mantioned, if we swing and miss, he could change his mind if we still offer, since there were conditions on an opportunity to commit. Every poster on this thread KNOWS that he has that kind of offer, I'm not sure why there would be a question, unless logic has been thrown out the window. Ah, that's IT! I mean, Region at least had an opportunity to commit as an OL, just not visit elsewhere and stay solid, so where do you think that puts Landrum on the LB pecking order for Bama? Certainly nowhere near the top. And for those that like to gaze stars, Chris pales in comparison to some of the guys that we are hot after. Now those are FACTS. I think AUTigers is the realist if either of the two are. cpt is reaching...

 

[ElephanTideis]

I just find it amusing that the reasons you guys always seem to give when Bama loses a recruit to Auburn amount to one of the following: "Auburn is offering more playing time," "We have several at that position higher on our board" (which I'm sure you have access to), "He didn't have a 'committable offer'", or the newest fad, "We're recruiting nationally now, while Auburn recruits regionally"

It has been common knowledge on this board for a while now, well before he committed to the barn, that Chris Landrum never had a commitable offer from Alabama. This is from when most thought we were his leader: http://www.tidefans.com/forums/recruiting/102083-chris-landrum.html

 

[AUTigers001]

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And why is this so hard to understand again? Landrum is down...the...board. We have people further...up...the...board. Our coaches have already evaluated guys that they rate (not based on Rivals/Scout, but their own eyes) higher than Landrum. Furthermore, we have an onlooker that makes a valid point, Landrum is a 1A star, and at RB at that. That translates sometimes. Good luck to Chris, and as another poster mantioned, if we swing and miss, he could change his mind if we still offer, since there were conditions on an opportunity to commit. Every poster on this thread KNOWS that he has that kind of offer, I'm not sure why there would be a question, unless logic has been thrown out the window. Ah, that's IT! I mean, Region at least had an opportunity to commit as an OL, just not visit elsewhere and stay solid, so where do you think that puts Landrum on the LB pecking order for Bama? Certainly nowhere near the top. And for those that like to gaze stars, Chris pales in comparison to some of the guys that we are hot after. Now those are FACTS. I think AUTigers is the realist if either of the two are. cpt is reaching...

Hi!

Although it isn't referenced in what I quoted here, earlier you seemed to indicate that the captain and I might already be banned. I honestly don't think I have done anything worthy of that type of response. I didn't really see anything horrible from cptreality either.

Anyway, to the quoted post: I have already said a few times that Alabama's lb class will not suffer because this kid made an early verbal to us. I understand that your coaches would rather get Ragland, given the choice between the two. And I am at perfect peace with that. Really. My opening post in this thread was just to say that we (Auburn) are glad to have him and that you guys will be fine at linebacker.

I've had a few other posts since then, but my theme has remained consistent.

For some reason, I kind of like it here... I don't want to get banned. I think that a large portion of you guys (including BamainBham) would be fun to drink a few beers with and talk about football. It's fun to exchange thoughts and laugh with each other. Of course, it's more fun in a year when Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.

 

[bamahippie]

Hi!

Although it isn't referenced in what I quoted here, earlier you seemed to indicate that the captain and I might already be banned. I honestly don't think I have done anything worthy of that type of response. I didn't really see anything horrible from cptreality either.

Anyway, to the quoted post: I have already said a few times that Alabama's lb class will not suffer because this kid made an early verbal to us. I understand that your coaches would rather get Ragland, given the choice between the two. And I am at perfect peace with that. Really. My opening post in this thread was just to say that we (Auburn) are glad to have him and that you guys will be fine at linebacker.

I've had a few other posts since then, but my theme has remained consistent.

For some reason, I kind of like it here... I don't want to get banned. I think that a large portion of you guys (including BamainBham) would be fun to drink a few beers with and talk about football. It's fun to exchange thoughts and laugh with each other. Of course, it's more fun in a year when Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.

LOL, I didn't say anything about you being banned! Though a couple of folks hinted that cptrealist might be headed that way. Also, I was complimenting you by saying that you may be more of a realist than he proclaims himself to be. Nothing like a dry spell for us Bama fans to make us realists, and, well, now we're expecting championships again. I have no beef with you whatsoever, but cptunreal, which was who my post and clipped quote was directed to. Please continue to share your input here, as I think folks tend to appreciate your contributions. :smile: There's no shame in being proud of your team, or us of ours, it's when either of us spout off, and have no clue what we're talking about (hence my post and clipped quote), that's when you see the harsh reactions. And you go back and read, there shouldn't have been any negative or harsh comments directed to just you. If so, shame on our folks, because you've kept it classy...

 

[cptnrealist]

LOL, I didn't say anything about you being banned! Though a couple of folks hinted that cptrealist might be headed that way. Also, I was complimenting you by saying that you may be more of a realist than he proclaims himself to be. Nothing like a dry spell for us Bama fans to make us realists, and, well, now we're expecting championships again. I have no beef with you whatsoever, but cptunreal, which was who my post and clipped quote was directed to. Please continue to share your input here, as I think folks tend to appreciate your contributions. :smile: There's no shame in being proud of your team, or us of ours, it's when either of us spout off, and have no clue what we're talking about (hence my post and clipped quote), that's when you see the harsh reactions. And you go back and read, there shouldn't have been any negative or harsh comments directed to just you. If so, shame on our folks, because you've kept it classy...

You disagree with me, and rationalize that with saying that I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to cower down and worship your program like you believe I should. If you read what I have said I am only stating the obvious, that some of you feel the need to justify Auburn landing one of your guys by giving excuses which have already been discussed ad nauseam. I'm aware of the fact that Auburn fans are not immune to the same sense of self-righteousness; I'm sure all of you have already made this assumption about me anyway. I'm not perfect by any means, but I do like my voice to be heard. I also recognize that you have one of the best programs in college football along with arguably the best coach in the country, but the constant dismissal of Auburn aggravates me, as it would you if the tables were turned. I can promise you that I don't dismiss Bama with the same regularity; I knew what was likely to come with Saban's arrival. However, there's no need to attack me by saying I don't understand what's going on simply because you have a differing opinion. I have said nothing that is derogatory or terribly inflammatory, and as a previous poster said, I also feel there is nothing wrong with defending one's chosen team. If you hate opposing views so much that you feel I should be banned, you're being a bit ridiculous in my opinion.

 

[VegasTide]

Hi!

Although it isn't referenced in what I quoted here, earlier you seemed to indicate that the captain and I might already be banned. I honestly don't think I have done anything worthy of that type of response. I didn't really see anything horrible from cptreality either.

Anyway, to the quoted post: I have already said a few times that Alabama's lb class will not suffer because this kid made an early verbal to us. I understand that your coaches would rather get Ragland, given the choice between the two. And I am at perfect peace with that. Really. My opening post in this thread was just to say that we (Auburn) are glad to have him and that you guys will be fine at linebacker.

I've had a few other posts since then, but my theme has remained consistent.

For some reason, I kind of like it here... I don't want to get banned. I think that a large portion of you guys (including BamainBham) would be fun to drink a few beers with and talk about football. It's fun to exchange thoughts and laugh with each other. Of course, it's more fun in a year when Auburn wins the Iron Bowl.

I seriously doubt you're going to get banned... and I hope your other friend doesn't.