Most Of Cottrell/Williams Case Thrown Out...

[Chukker Veteran]

Gallion was all about publicity and public accusations. He had no substance whatsoever. His conspiracy case was so much of a joke it was thrown out. He's the type of lawyer that gives them all a bad name. If Cottrell and Williams have legitimate claims, they will get their time in court to prove it. Any Alabama supporters that gave any credibility to Gallion should quickly back away from that fraud. He's done nothing but generate bad publicity for Alabama and embarrass those that supported him.

The best thing the University of Alabama has done in this matter was to distance themselves from him. The dismissal of the case shows the University had good judgement on that issue. Another benefit to this is that hopefully it will hasten the process of putting this whole mess behind us so we can focus on why we're really here - Tide football.

I'm sick of this legal train wreck. Bring on some football.

This post was as predictable as Christmas.

I was one of the Alabama fans that thought "Yeah, sure" when Gallion explained fulmer's role in trashing Alabama. But guess what.

I thought it was silly to suggest Kramer would backstab Alabama. But guess what Gallion proved?

I have never understood why that info was greeted with a big yawn and a "who cares" from the Administration.

I gave credibility to Gallion when he explained testifying in secret with rumor and outright lies is not the American way. And should not be condoned in any fashion or any courtroom. Others seem more comfortable with the arrangement. "Just as long as lightning doesn't strike our particular house again, for the third time."

We've seen the handwringing by those "in the loop" about more garbage coming out on Alabama in a trial. Well what better time than now to identify & get rid of any more over-involved boosters, some of whom have wrecked this program for the other 99% of Alabama fans who root for the team without breaking any rules.

I was shocked and disgusted to learn how often Young telephoned Williams in the months leading up to the recruiting season. The suggestion floating around that that was simply business as usual has been even harder to swallow. I was hopeful the Cottrell/NCAA trial might shed some light on just what kind of program we have been supporting all these years, is it really as dirty as fulmer said? I still think we were set up by the ut gang, working with the ncaa & kramer. I do not believe fulmer's take on the Alabama program & it's history of Young's overinvolvement. I simply do not believe Young was Bryant's bagman, period.

I am floored the University would let fulmer's slander of Coach Bryant go unchallenged.

 

[Crimson King]

You can always predict that I'll base my opinions on facts, logic, and an unemotional evaluation of the information available. If you prefer to believe something that the Alabama courts and media refuse to believe and has no basis in fact, that's your right. We can disagree. :biggrin2:

 

[Boclive]

You can always predict that I'll base my opinions on facts, logic, and an unemotional evaluation of the information available. If you prefer to believe something that the Alabama courts and media refuse to believe and has no basis in fact, that's your right. We can disagree. :biggrin2:

You can paint it pink and call it a rose but that don't make it a rose.

And you are full of it.

 

[rightwinger]

It is not a good thing anytime the sports-hating libs at the ncaa when a legal battle. If college football is to survive, that organization must be dealt a death blow.

 

[CrimsonChuck]

The odd thing to me about this is the reason that everything was thrown out was because of Cottrell being a public figure, which makes the standards higher for proving his case. The NCAA saying that he was involved wasn’t just like some fan posting stuff on the internet. It is the very organization that has a monopoly on college football that did not allow him to get a job. Shouldn’t Cottrell’s status as a public figure be determined by a jury and not a judge? And why should it even matter in this case? I would be interested to see a lawyer’s take on this.

I also think that it is important to point out that the case was not thrown out because Cottrell was not telling the truth. It was thrown out because the judge determined that assuming Cottrell was telling the truth, that the NCAA was not liable according to this new higher standard.

 

[Crimson King]

You can paint it pink and call it a rose but that don't make it a rose.

And you are full of it.

Full of common sense, absolutely. Wow, some of you guys get really hostile when somebody doesn't conform to your opinion. You know, it's not really necessary to throw in an insult every time somebody doesn't agree with you. People that do that tend to be full of something else. :biggrin:

 

[Chukker Veteran]

Full of common sense, absolutely. Wow, some of you guys get really hostile when somebody doesn't conform to your opinion. You know, it's not really necessary to throw in an insult every time somebody doesn't agree with you. People that do that tend to be full of something else. :biggrin:

Slick, you seemed to have signed up here to give us your lectures about what's right & wrong with Gallion & Alabama football.
If people are sharp enough around here to recognize that, too bad.

Let me give you a clue, the folks disappointed in the judge's dismissal of the ncaa suit are no less Alabama fans than the set who took your stance. Why not show a little class and quit your crowing "I was right all along", there really is nothing to gloat about.

 

[Boclive]

Full of common sense, absolutely. Wow, some of you guys get really hostile when somebody doesn't conform to your opinion. You know, it's not really necessary to throw in an insult every time somebody doesn't agree with you. People that do that tend to be full of something else. :biggrin:

I'm not hostile. Just stating the facts.

 

[Crimson King]

Slick, you seemed to have signed up here to give us your lectures about what's right & wrong with Gallion & Alabama football.
If people are sharp enough around here to recognize that, too bad.

Let me give you a clue, the folks disappointed in the judge's dismissal of the ncaa suit are no less Alabama fans than the set who took your stance. Why not show a little class and quit your crowing "I was right all along", there really is nothing to gloat about.

Well Scooter, if you think posting a differing opinion on the matter is a lecture, you're mistaken. I'm not sure why the fact that my opinion on Gallion differs from yours is such a problem with you, but for some reason, any comment I make that isn't popular with someone gets quoted and criticized. If you don't like what I have to say, then ignore it.

I never said anybody that disagreed with me was less of an Alabama fan than I am. That would be a mistake, wouldn't it. As is implying that's what I said.

Why not show a little class yourself and quit attacking me for disagreeing with the popular opinion. I'm not crowing about being right. I'm commenting on the fact that this scumbag lawyer will soon be out of the news, where he has done nothing for the University of Alabama but create bad press. IN MY OPINION. It's fine with me if you disagree with that. Unlike some of you, I won't be attacking or insulting you for an opinion that is different from mine. I don't take it personally if you don't think like I do.

 

[Crimson King]

I'm not hostile. Just stating the facts.

You didn't post any facts.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

Well Scooter, if you think posting a differing opinion on the matter is a lecture, you're mistaken. I'm not sure why the fact that my opinion on Gallion differs from yours is such a problem with you, but for some reason, any comment I make that isn't popular with someone gets quoted and criticized. If you don't like what I have to say, then ignore it.

I never said anybody that disagreed with me was less of an Alabama fan than I am. That would be a mistake, wouldn't it. As is implying that's what I said.

Why not show a little class yourself and quit attacking me for disagreeing with the popular opinion. I'm not crowing about being right. I'm commenting on the fact that this scumbag lawyer will soon be out of the news, where he has done nothing for the University of Alabama but create bad press. IN MY OPINION. It's fine with me if you disagree with that. Unlike some of you, I won't be attacking or insulting you for an opinion that is different from mine. I don't take it personally if you don't think like I do.

Take your description of Tommy Gallion... "scumbag lawyer" and put it somewhere else.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

You didn't post any facts.

You are on my last nerve. You have 18, I say again 18 posts and your motives are very obvious to me. You seem to be here on "our" board for all the wrong reasons.

You are argumentative towards everyone and you attack anyone that does not believe as you believe. I called you a Tennessee fan from you very first post and I stick by that assertion.

What true Bama fan would celebrate the Cottrell/Williams case having trouble in court against the NCAA and your buddy Fulmer. Some have predicted it and I would say a whole lot of true Bama fans wish it would all go away. But that is a different story than what you are doing here. If you are truely here to talk football then get on with it. I don't care what color your persuasion is stop the attacks and arguing. If not consider this your last warning Buddy.

 

[bayoutider]

I have a sure fire way to stop all the sparring on this message board.

 

[Bamafan in BGKY]

I'm disappointed that certain individuals who have been involved in the probation of the Alabama football program, fulmer and kramer, and others, have not been forced to "pay a price" for what they did. I think that a certain coach is a snake in the grass, and that he does not stand for "truth, justice, and the american way" which is what he wants everyone else to think. In my life, I've always disliked the people who sit back and cry about the unfair advantages of others. Fulmer didn't go out and work hard to build up his program and say "I won't worry about what others do, I'll just worry about my own program and about being the best that we can be"

No, he was like the little kid who says "It's not fair. They aren't playing fair. I want my mommy"

That's what is so frustrating to me. I'm not going to judge BAMA football. I love it, and that's it. Just like a marriage, regardless of what Bama football does, good or bad, I love it. And I'll support it and stand behind it 100%.

That said, I don't think that legally, the conspiracy charge would stick unless the University of Alabama was one of the people/entity involved in the lawsuit. So, whether or not I like it, the University decide to move forward, so I'm doing the same. I'm worrying about our football, and thinking about us becoming as good as we can be. Let's worry about ourselves, our football program and let everything else go.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

I have a sure fire way to stop all the sparring on this message board.

Just a suggestion here: The rifle approach might make a little more sense than the shotgun approach to ending the sparring.

But I'll take my spanking anyway, just to be a good sport.

I figured when a guy is reprimanded by two different moderators within the first fifteen posts he makes, well...

Get out the boot. Time for a drop-kick.

 

[Boclive]

My apologies too, boss. I don't mean to be sparring with anyone.

We can agree to disagree, but all of this pretending to be pals is dis-tasteful to me.

Next time we turn our backs on these guys it's our own fault.

 

[bayoutider]

Ease up guys, the war is over.

 

[Bodhisattva]

I have a sure fire way to stop all the sparring on this message board.

Wait a second. I thought the nuclear option dealt with the filibuster of federal judges. I'm so confused.

 

[TexasBama]

Ease up guys, the war is over.

I bet I know who won, too :biggrin:

 

[bayoutider]

I bet I know who won, too :biggrin:

Was there ever any doubt? And I can be such a nice guy too.