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My Concession Speech-To the 'Other' Side!

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ed4tide4u2

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;) Well, it has been a week now. The election is over and life goes on. I have to admit, I was farily depressed in the wee hours of Wednesday morning when I realized that the 'cause was lost'. I even joined the ranks of those Liberals who left the country. I went to California. After a week among the foreigners, I decided that I had to come back and continue the fight. If I give up now then why did I ever start? Millions of other Americans agreed so it must be worthy to go on.

There are posters on here who know that the tensions got to the point where formality was sometime forgotten. It was a real hot and heavy at times. I congratulate the winners and believe you ran one of the best political campaigns in recent memory. Many of the voters that Democrats counted on for support, turned away in an unprecedented manner it appears. I saw a political cartoon today that said: ' My husband lost his job. Our unemployment benefits ran out. Our Social Security is threatened. Medicare is a mess. We can't get a flu shot. Our son left his wife and kids to fight in Iraq. Now he's stuffing sandbags and plywood in his in his military vehicle because it has no armor to protect him. The insurgents are trying to blow him to pieces. All this happened under the current administration. "That's why I voted for Bush'. (DON Wright/Palm Beach, Fla. Post)

I think that sums up the reason that GWB won. Politics is all about convincing enough people that regardless of how bad you may be doing or feel that things may be going, it's better to come with me. The Republicans were very successful at this. The Democrats did not do enough to concentrate on what people were feeling in their hearts as opposed to what was in their head. There was and is, a lot of concern in America about values outside of the headlines and we missed an opportunity to tap into it. It may surprise some to realize that of those millions of Democrats, Republicans and Independents who voted for Kerry, just as many millions, are also concerned about the same moral values as Republicans. I don't think this lesson will be forgotten by the Democratic Party and will force it to define itself once and for all. The Republicans took their position and held firm on it, regardless of complaint. Democrats in the future will have to reach out to all of Americans not only in regard to their pocketbooks but also in regards to the faiths and beliefs that we all share as Americans. America should never revert to a one-party nation. This can be done because as the conflict in Iraq and the fight for Fallujah now shows, when it comes to the security of this nation and our loved ones who fight for it daily, we are all ONE. There are no party affiliations in battle or in death.

It is important now that we all put whatever animosity we had from the election aside and pray that our loved ones fighting in wars across the globe on our behalf will be safe and return home soon. Whatever happens over the next four years, there is only one thing for certain: we will all go through it together.
 
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ed4tide4u2 said:
;) Well, it has been a week now. The election is over and life goes on. I have to admit, I was farily depressed in the wee hours of Wednesday morning when I realized that the 'cause was lost'. I even joined the ranks of those Liberals who left the country. I went to California. After a week among the foreigners, I decided that I had to come back and continue the fight. If I give up now then why did I ever start? Millions of other Americans agreed so it must be worthy to go on.

There are posters on here who know that the tensions got to the point where formality was sometime forgotten. It was a real hot and heavy at times. I congratulate the winners and believe you ran one of the best political campaigns in recent memory. Many of the voters that Democrats counted on for support, turned away in an unprecedented manner it appears. I saw a political cartoon today that said: ' My husband lost his job. Our unemployment benefits ran out. Our Social Security is threatened. Medicare is a mess. We can't get a flu shot. Our son left his wife and kids to fight in Iraq. Now he's stuffing sandbags and plywood in his in his military vehicle because it has no armor to protect him. The insurgents are trying to blow him to pieces. All this happened under the current administration. "That's why I voted for Bush'. (DON Wright/Palm Beach, Fla. Post)

I think that sums up the reason that GWB won. Politics is all about convincing enough people that regardless of how bad you may be doing or feel that things may be going, it's better to come with me. The Republicans were very successful at this. The Democrats did not do enough to concentrate on what people were feeling in their hearts as opposed to what was in their head. There was and is, a lot of concern in America about values outside of the headlines and we missed an opportunity to tap into it. It may surprise some to realize that of those millions of Democrats, Republicans and Independents who voted for Kerry, just as many millions, are also concerned about the same moral values as Republicans. I don't think this lesson will be forgotten by the Democrtic Party and will force it to define itself once and for all. The Republicans took their posiion and held firm on it regardless of complaint. Democrats in the future will have to reach out to all of Americans not only in regard to their pocketbooks but also in regards to the faiths and beliefs that we all share as Americans. This can be done because as the conflict in Iraq and the fight for Fallujah now shows, when it comes to the security of this nation and our loved ones who fight for it daily, we are all ONE. There are no party affiliations in battle or in death.

It is important now that we all put whatever animosity we had from the election aside and pray that our loved ones fighting in wars across the globe on our behalf will be safe and return home soon. Whatever happens over the next four years, there is only one thing for certain: we will all go through it together.
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Many of the voters that Democrats counted on for support, turned away in an unprecedented manner it appears.

not true, dems came out in droves.


I think that sums up the reason that GWB won. Politics is all about convincing enough people that regardless of how bad you may be doing or feel that things may be going, it's better to come with me. The Republicans were very successful at this. The Democrats did not do enough to concentrate on what people were feeling in their hearts as opposed to what was in their head.


When will you peeps on the left realize that Ideas win elections. Forget feelings.

Democrats in the future will have to reach out to all of Americans not only in regard to their pocketbooks but also in regards to the faiths and beliefs that we all share as Americans.


Cant happen. The liberal base is bought by wealth transfer and hateful rhetoric. They also have a different idea of what values means. Abortion, for example, is not a family value to most Americans but is holy to the democrats base.

It is important now that we all put whatever animosity we had from the election aside and pray that our loved ones fighting in wars across the globe on our behalf will be safe and return home soon. Whatever happens over the next four years, there is only one thing for certain: we will all go through it together.[/QUOTE]


One can only hope everyone feels like you do.


peace
 
bamabake said:
Many of the voters that Democrats counted on for support, turned away in an unprecedented manner it appears.

not true, dems came out in droves.


I think that sums up the reason that GWB won. Politics is all about convincing enough people that regardless of how bad you may be doing or feel that things may be going, it's better to come with me. The Republicans were very successful at this. The Democrats did not do enough to concentrate on what people were feeling in their hearts as opposed to what was in their head.


When will you peeps on the left realize that Ideas win elections. Forget feelings.

Democrats in the future will have to reach out to all of Americans not only in regard to their pocketbooks but also in regards to the faiths and beliefs that we all share as Americans.


Cant happen. The liberal base is bought by wealth transfer and hateful rhetoric. They also have a different idea of what values means. Abortion, for example, is not a family value to most Americans but is holy to the democrats base.

It is important now that we all put whatever animosity we had from the election aside and pray that our loved ones fighting in wars across the globe on our behalf will be safe and return home soon. Whatever happens over the next four years, there is only one thing for certain: we will all go through it together.
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One can only hope everyone feels like you do.


peace[/QUOTE]

You are welcome. You make my point exactly. Now can we move on?
 
The GOP will be in good shape for the future as long as lib/Dems remain in denial as you still are. Y'all didn't have a "cause", all you had was a crusade to try to steal an election by spewing, hate, misinformation, self aggrandizement, scare tactics and downright lies. Fortunately, the American public, or enough of them at least, saw through the Dems facade and recognized that Dubya was by far, the better alternative.

So, y'all be sure to scrape up another loser like Gore or Kerry for 08, teach him all the talking points, trot him or her all across the country to parrot your tales of gloom and doom. Try once again to convince Americans that they aren't intelligent enough to think for themselves, that only the Dems can do that for them and prepare to do a lot of sad singing and slow walking after the next election.
 
Welcome back. I think you are right about the convincing part. Bill Clinton was likeable and could relate to people. Even though I didn't vote for him either time and thought he had gutter morals and was a tax-raising liberal, I admit he had the 'touch' with the voters. Dole didnt'. Gore didn't. Kerry didn't. Dubya does.

I heard today a democratic spokesperson say that in the Red States where unemploymnet and wages were the worse, the very people whom Bush's catrering to the rich hurt the most, were the one's who elected him again.
I can't understand the democratic party's fixation with the 'rich'. Evidently that old song has quit working. I can't understand how any working man could think the dem's care about him since they (the democratic controled house and senate) raised the working man's taxes thirty times from 1965 thru 1992.

In no particular order these are some of the reasons I voted for Dubya: I don't want my taxes raised again. I don't want a pacifist pandering to terrorists. I don't LIKE being told I am stupid for being a Christian. I don't LIKE being told I am stupid for not supporting every weird whim that comes along.

Here is one important thing I took into consideration: Dubya has kept his word. Clinton ran as a new democrat and promptly raised taxes. I felt Kerry was just like Clinton.
 
Just imagine, if you will, a world in which people vote for the person that they believe will help our nation instead of ourselves as individuals. These states voted for Bush in the face of all that they have been suffering through. Why? Do they like suffering? Are they really willing to continue suffering over a gay rights issue? He must have registered with them somewhere, right?

Maybe, just maybe, they blame the terrorists for 9/11. What a novel concept. And maybe they understand that our economy was in serious decline when Bush took office - which, they understand, took an additional blow on 9/11 - and they know that Bush did his level best to improve that economy. And, maybe they know that Bush went into Iraq for valid reasons, some of which later turned out to be lined with misinformation. Maybe they don't blame Bush for that misinformation.

Maybe they knew that Bush stood for something more important than himself - and themselves. Maybe, just maybe, these people voted for the right man...
 
That's a good post, ed4tide4u2.

I am one who sees this election as a result (or backlash) against the faction of the Democratic party that has seemingly seized control over it. That is the loud, obnoxious and shallow voices of the likes of Michael Moore, Richard Dreyfus, Streisand, Dixie Chicks, Springsteen, etc.

The Hollywood Left has never been more vociferous in its hatred of any one political figure that I can recall. Newt Gingrich didn't even come close, and Pres. Reagan was a loveable teddy bear compared to GWB. Perhaps they as a group were wined and dined and shuttled in limos at taxpayer expense into the White House for eight years and now they have to wait at least four more to return to those days? When ordinary folks like us see Madonna holding a policy session with Gen. Wesley Clark, we're sort of turned off. Can you understand that?

Yesterday, I saw Madonna calling for complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, so not much has changed in the face of this election.

I wish more who voted for Kerry (or simply against Bush) had your spirit and cautious optimism. As far as the content of the cartoon goes, I dare you to show me one American who's suffered all those setbacks. What's next - you (well, not you specifically) don't win the Powerball Lottery so it's all Bush's fault? I still have yet to hear anyone explain how the country just went to hell in a handbasket since 2001.

Now, Kerry says he may run again. It's a continuation of Loserville with these people. I think the Dems, if you consider the majority of registered voters, probably want the party to return to the middle and get away from the Michael Moore sitting next to Jimmy Carter element. If it doesn't happen, and a venomous, sweaty Al Gore is allowed to bust a vein every few days on a college campus, there's little hope.

I don't know if the Dems will succeed in charting this course, but it will help the civility, of which a return is sorely needed.
 
Ed - one more thought regarding voters connecting with what they were feeling in their hearts:

Newsweek is reporting in its upcoming edition (it may be out already) that Kerry, after reviewing early poll nuimbers, spoke of the president: "I can't believe I'm losing to this idiot."

That's the spirit! :confused:
 
ValuJet said:
The Hollywood Left has never been more vociferous in its hatred of any one political figure that I can recall.
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I think that might have hurt the Dems more than anything. A distant relative of mine voted for Bush and that was the first time that she has EVER voted for a Republican. She's about as yellow-dog as it comes. My father asked her what made her change her stripes and she said that she truly thinks that George Bush is a good man and she was disgusted by the undeserved hatred that was coming from members of the Democratic party... even members of her own family. She grew up in a union family that has always supported the Democrats, but she said that her conscience made her change this time.

She told him that she didn't raise her kids to hate other people, regardless of their beliefs.
 
ed4tide4u2 said:
Our son left his wife and kids to fight in Iraq. Now he's stuffing sandbags and plywood in his in his military vehicle because it has no armor to protect him.
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Where exactly is your son located?

I spent nearly 2 years throughout the Middle East and rarely if ever came across men without the protection needed for themselves. I have heard the stories and AP links of soliders needing help but there were many other "objectives" not told in the stories which made it seem worse then it actually was.
 
U-A, that was a political cartoon. I gave the source. It was as Zell said: a metaphor. My son is in Iraq now. I thought after serving in Vietnam that I would never have to worry about a family member serving in another war. The world is not a nice place though so I must pray that he is safe as are all of our other troops there. We need to unite as Americans now because the rest of the world has put the target on our backs. Not Democrats or Republicans but rather all Americans.
 
My 2 Cents

I am not a Dem or Rep. I don't trust government period. Sure, there is a lot of government we all need, but there is way to much government in our lives today.

We need to stop wage taxes, taxes on clothes and taxes on food. We also need some form of medical relief for the poor.

We need less lawyers and less laws.

We need to keep murders in jail and not let them out after 18 months so we can put someone in for 10 years who smoked a joint.

The list goes on and on...

A senator said he never reads a bill he votes for or against. So, he doesn't know what pork is in it till it is passed.

The system is the best in the world in my opinion, but needs some changes.

Put back town hangings for the most violent crimes and that would make these young kids think about what choice they are making. You rape someone and then you got to get raped by the pervert team. Eye for an eye.

EDUCATION! The more you know, the better decision you make. Fish is supposed to be a brain food. We need half the population eating it everyday.

We live in the greatest nation on the planet. Why can't we fix some of these problems we have that would greatly benefit millions of hard working, honest people?

As far as voting goes, look at the percentage of the whole that voted. It wasn't 100% or even close. So only a small % of americans make the choice for anything on the ballot. As far as registered teens, 17% voted. Same as last election. They register, but don't vote. I say if you want to get that tax break, then you have to vote to get it or anything else the government gives you. And before you vote, you have to read the record of the candidate.

There are a lot of people in positions of power that think just like the ones at Enron.

Don't misunderstand me and think for one minute that I feel John Kerry could make the difference. Not in my lifetime. But, Bush is no God either.

We may not agree on anything I have written above, but when I come to your home, I must respect your space and your opinion. I don't have to live it, but should respect it. But, you should respect mine as well.

Let's work toward a better America for all of us.
 
First, you offer congrats then you continue in on your typical Dem rhetoric. "the majority of people didn't vote........" blah, blah, blah! I have heard this for a week now! You lost because more people trusted President Bush and his proven leadership over a lying war criminal! Let it go!
 
briancm said:
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We need less lawyers and less laws.

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We live in the greatest nation on the planet. Why can't we fix some of these problems we have that would greatly benefit millions of hard working, honest people?
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The first statement specifies the second. We have so many laws because lawyers make up the majority of the legislature. Lawyers aren't going to simplify the legal process because the demand for their profession correlates to the complexity of it.

Necessity is the mother of invention... but demand is the mother of opportunity.

If politicians solved all the problems, they'd no longer be needed. Of course, they'd collaborate to fabricate a new group of problems.
 
micah_07 said:
First, you offer congrats then you continue in on your typical Dem rhetoric. "the majority of people didn't vote........" blah, blah, blah! I have heard this for a week now! You lost because more people trusted President Bush and his proven leadership over a lying war criminal! Let it go!
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I hope it is not I that you are misquoting above. If it were, I'd say that you are the one who should really let it go.Never place quotation marks when you intend to misquote. You missed the point entirely. As usual.
 
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