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twofbyc

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Tideflyer said:
With a lot of these " highly rated " kids, it`s looking a lot like if they`re not starting ( for pretty much ANY reason ) at least by their sophomore year the chances of them entering the transfer portal go up logarithmically.
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I’m thinking a lot has to do with injuries; either they lose their starting job because of one, or they’re busting their hump to get more PT then they get injured.
Look at them: Anderson, Kennedy, Sanders, Harrell, I think George too - a goodly number suffered injuries and are simply not willing to work their way back, or up if they weren’t getting much PT. Not making a judgement here; it does smack of “quitting” but honestly, if their position group is stacked with talent (it IS Bama), they may just wanna play. At Bama, if you’re HEALTHY you have to work to do that; get injured and you lose time and have to work even harder.
Most young players would rather “play” on a mediocre team than ride the pine on a championship contender. If you can’t get significant playing time at Bama by your junior year, or even if you have and you get hurt, that’s a challenge some people just don’t want to deal with.
 
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twofbyc said:
I’m thinking a lot has to do with injuries; either they lose their starting job because of one, or they’re busting their hump to get more PT then they get injured.
Look at them: Anderson, Kennedy, Sanders, Harrell, I think George too - a goodly number suffered injuries and are simply not willing to work their way back, or up if they weren’t getting much PT. Not making a judgement here; it does smack of “quitting” but honestly, if their position group is stacked with talent (it IS Bama), they may just wanna play. At Bama, if you’re HEALTHY you have to work to do that; get injured and you lose time and have to work even harder.
Most young players would rather “play” on a mediocre team than ride the pine on a championship contender. If you can’t get significant playing time at Bama by your junior year, or even if you have and you get hurt, that’s a challenge some people just don’t want to deal with.
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And there's nothing wrong with that. You play sports to actually play, not watch others play. You can do that in the bleachers.
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
And there's nothing wrong with that. You play sports to actually play, not watch others play. You can do that in the bleachers.
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Yep. There aren't many (any?) players that got an opportunity in the NFL after riding the bench for 4 years and being an backup throughout their career, regardless of how "selfless" or a "team player" they were. However, there are plenty of guys from smaller schools that got the chance after showing out against lesser opposition to make the idea of changing schools appealing.
 
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Marg said:
Yep. There aren't many (any?) players that got an opportunity in the NFL after riding the bench for 4 years and being an backup throughout their career, regardless of how "selfless" or a "team player" they were. However, there are plenty of guys from smaller schools that got the chance after showing out against lesser opposition to make the idea of changing schools appealing.
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Matt Cassel is the only one I can think of.
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
And there's nothing wrong with that. You play sports to actually play, not watch others play. You can do that in the bleachers.
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Hence the “Not making a judgement here” comment; injuries are part of the game, and if you get hurt at Bama, if you’re not already a starter set in stone (and that’s iffy), you might as well look elsewhere if you don’t have the desire/ability to work your way back. Many have worked their way back, over the years - times are changing.
 
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Marg said:
Yep. There aren't many (any?) players that got an opportunity in the NFL after riding the bench for 4 years and being an backup throughout their career, regardless of how "selfless" or a "team player" they were. However, there are plenty of guys from smaller schools that got the chance after showing out against lesser opposition to make the idea of changing schools appealing.
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Maybe not on bench for 4 years, but we've had a lot of guys do very little for a few years and then have one great years and do well in the draft. B Robinson, mack Jones, q williams, etc were all single year starters...
 
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gtgilbert said:
Maybe not on bench for 4 years, but we've had a lot of guys do very little for a few years and then have one great years and do well in the draft. B Robinson, mack Jones, q williams, etc were all single year starters...
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That's the Bama formula for many but some can't be patient. We also have to consider when we bring in top 2 classes every year the competition is intense and many of our transfers are guys that can/could not get on the field and get passed by a younger player. With the current transfer rule I don't blame them but I don't like the current rule.
 
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twofbyc said:
Hence the “Not making a judgement here” comment; injuries are part of the game, and if you get hurt at Bama, if you’re not already a starter set in stone (and that’s iffy), you might as well look elsewhere if you don’t have the desire/ability to work your way back. Many have worked their way back, over the years - times are changing.
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Sometimes (not often) a player's ability, potential isn't recognized , appreciated or doesn't fit the current system.
Perfect examples : high school, Josh Jacobs, U of A, Alvin Kamara.
These Men are trying to establish the most value for themselves, as they see it.
Something Coach Saban is continually preaching to them ,and I agree.
BTW, many are encouraged to "pursue other opportunities.
 
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Marg said:
Yep. There aren't many (any?) players that got an opportunity in the NFL after riding the bench for 4 years and being an backup throughout their career, regardless of how "selfless" or a "team player" they were. However, there are plenty of guys from smaller schools that got the chance after showing out against lesser opposition to make the idea of changing schools appealing.
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Matt Flynn was in Jamarcus Russell’s signing class. Both redshirted. JR started as a RS Freshman and the following 2 years. Flynn finally got his chance in 2007 as a 5th year Senior and won the BCS championship, which JR never did. After getting drafted in the last round by the packers and sitting behind Rogers, he got a chance in the last game in his 4th year. He had a fantastic game throwing 6 TDS and signed a big free agent deal with the Seahawks. He got beat out by rookie 3rd round pick Russel Wilson. He was traded and was only a journeyman who ultimately earned over 19 million.
 
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