BREAKING NCAA votes to have a single transfer portal period

[Bamabuzzard]

That's definitely the counter-argument. Whether a judge would agree, I don't know.

I doubt they'd buy it, but that's the basic angle I'd take.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

If I'm a lawyer arguing against this, I'd make a distinction between transferring for academics is not and should not be put on the same footing as someone transferring for athletic play. I'd then rhetorically ask the court, "Are we now saying that playing a sport is on the same level as academics? Isn't the main point of going to college is to get a higher education? The overwhelming majority of college athletes will never play on a professional level, and the educational aspect of college is to prepare them for life after college and after sports. We cannot start treating sports like it is the same as academics."

And when the restriction of "the ability to make income" argument comes up, I'd point to no restriction at all. They are allowed to make income at the school they are at, and have the option to ask for more from the school, and also have the ability to solicit more potential NIL contracts freely via their agent or themselves in the open market from other businesses/corporations. The "restriction" of the ability to make money that is being put forth is not really a restriction of making money, it's more of a restriction on transferring, under the guise of "restricting the ability to make money". The reality is the players have the opportunity to make as much money as they want in the open market while still being allowed to transfer one time per year. I don't really see any rights being violated.

This times infinity!!!

 

[BamaNation]

Nick Saban Chimes in on Transfer Portal Changes

The former Crimson Tide head coach shared his thoughts on the recent changes to the transfer portal for college football.

www.si.com

 

[CB4]

If I'm a lawyer arguing against this, I'd make a distinction between transferring for academics is not and should not be put on the same footing as someone transferring for athletic play. I'd then rhetorically ask the court, "Are we now saying that playing a sport is on the same level as academics? Isn't the main point of going to college is to get a higher education? The overwhelming majority of college athletes will never play on a professional level, and the educational aspect of college is to prepare them for life after college and after sports. We cannot start treating sports like it is the same as academics."

And when the restriction of "the ability to make income" argument comes up, I'd point to no restriction at all. They are allowed to make income at the school they are at, and have the option to ask for more from the school, and also have the ability to solicit more potential NIL contracts freely via their agent or themselves in the open market from other businesses/corporations. The "restriction" of the ability to make money that is being put forth is not really a restriction of making money, it's more of a restriction on transferring, under the guise of "restricting the ability to make money". The reality is the players have the opportunity to make as much money as they want in the open market while still being allowed to transfer one time per year. I don't really see any rights being violated.

Problem is, Buzzard, the court these days would probably say “academics” is a moot point.

Remember the good old days when a player could only get immediate eligibility when they dropped to a lower division or was a graduate transfer to a school “offering a post graduate degree curriculum not currently offered at your present institution”? Now literally no one asks a single question about academic progress, academics standards, “academic” eligibility, etc. of the athlete hopping into the portal. It seems all that matters is the athletic department finds a way for the university to accept them.
Heck, TJ Finley got his undergrad degree at Auburn in Summer of 2023 after two stops- LSU and Auburn- and now is on his fourth stop (Texas State, Western Kentucky, Tulane and Georgia State) as a grad transfer. He’s made more transfers than a New York City bus route. TJ doesn’t necessarily come across as a guy working on the theory of cold fusion in his apartment in his free time. I doubt seriously anyone is asking questions in terms of academics in accepting him in these grad programs.

Buzzard, I’m absolutely with you. But I’m cynical. I haven’t seen anything recently from the courts that give me a bunch of hope.

 

[Bazza]

It’s official: The single transfer portal will be a 15-day window that runs from Jan. 2-16.

Was approved today by the NCAA DI Administrative Committee.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975675000657944673

 

[Bazza]

Another change that was approved today: Players will now have a 15-day window to enter the transfer portal after a new head coach is hired.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1975678938358730941

This second one is a noteworthy change: Instead of players having a 30-day window to enter the transfer portal after a coach is fired, players will now have to wait until five days after a new head coach is hired to enter the portal. That window will be 15 days instead of 30.

 

[BamaMoon]

The NCAA and some sanity in the same sentence is weird!

But that's a move in the right direction!

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Problem is, Buzzard, the court these days would probably say “academics” is a moot point.

Remember the good old days when a player could only get immediate eligibility when they dropped to a lower division or was a graduate transfer to a school “offering a post graduate degree curriculum not currently offered at your present institution”? Now literally no one asks a single question about academic progress, academics standards, “academic” eligibility, etc. of the athlete hopping into the portal. It seems all that matters is the athletic department finds a way for the university to accept them.
Heck, TJ Finley got his undergrad degree at Auburn in Summer of 2023 after two stops- LSU and Auburn- and now is on his fourth stop (Texas State, Western Kentucky, Tulane and Georgia State) as a grad transfer. He’s made more transfers than a New York City bus route. TJ doesn’t necessarily come across as a guy working on the theory of cold fusion in his apartment in his free time. I doubt seriously anyone is asking questions in terms of academics in accepting him in these grad programs.

Buzzard, I’m absolutely with you. But I’m cynical. I haven’t seen anything recently from the courts that give me a bunch of hope.

Who is TJ playing for this season...?

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Once a year is far more reasonable than what it has been!

 

[Elefantman]

A step in the right direction. But as we know, putting toothpaste back in the tube is not easy.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

Coach Saban makes a great point, if you don't graduate and you don't make it to the NFL........where are you winding up?

The list is and getting longer of the kids that too the money and are basically "out on the streets" looking for a way to make a living without a degree to help them.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Coach Saban makes a great point, if you don't graduate and you don't make it to the NFL........where are you winding up?

The list is and getting longer of the kids that too the money and are basically "out on the streets" looking for a way to make a living without a degree to help them.

Well, thats on them and their family/agents to figure out. Its no different than a HS graduate deciding to go work at a fast food restaurant rather than taking a scholarship to college. Its probably a bad decision with life long consequences but we can't remove every option for kids to make a bad decision. At some point they have to learn to make good decisions.

 

[Elefantman]

Coach Saban makes a great point, if you don't graduate and you don't make it to the NFL........where are you winding up?

The list is and getting longer of the kids that too the money and are basically "out on the streets" looking for a way to make a living without a degree to help them.

This problem of kids leaving college without a degree and never receiving a phone call form the NFL was happing long before NIL. Even if you do get drafted, playing for the NFL for more than five years is slim. But the odds of a college kid who just got paid a ton of money, and being able to realize that he better hold on to it as well as get a degree before he leaves campus is also slim.