Too much unregulated money creating the Wild West. Can you trust anything from your roster to the integrity of the game itself with that much money involved? It is becoming as corrupt as the government.
NIL and gambling destroying CFB
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What integrity? Was there ever any? Coaching is a job like any other. Players are playing in hopes of becoming rich professional players. Conferences are negotiating their own TV contracts, have their own TV networks and holding their own playoff and the NCAA is powerless to do anything about any of it.
The NCAA itself is nothing but a collection of Universities that was created by those Universities in the first place. The NCAA can dissolve or watch conferences leave voluntarily.
As far as integrity...there was never any. Players have been getting paid forever. Bear Bryant admitted some of his players were paid at Texas A&M, in the good ole wholesome 50s. It's always been a dirty business, because people love money and power and that will never, ever change.
The sport is enjoyable. But when the cameras are off and coaches are at work, you better believe a whole lot of shady stuff happens every single day. There's too much money involved for it not to be a shady business.
The NCAA itself is nothing but a collection of Universities that was created by those Universities in the first place. The NCAA can dissolve or watch conferences leave voluntarily.
As far as integrity...there was never any. Players have been getting paid forever. Bear Bryant admitted some of his players were paid at Texas A&M, in the good ole wholesome 50s. It's always been a dirty business, because people love money and power and that will never, ever change.
The sport is enjoyable. But when the cameras are off and coaches are at work, you better believe a whole lot of shady stuff happens every single day. There's too much money involved for it not to be a shady business.
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Not really. Not any more. Other than Bama, I really can't stomach the games anymore.
I still love the sport once the lights go on. I no longer enjoy following recruiting and will likely give that up at some point. I still love HS ball, but the recruiting games have changed dramatically.
HS football will be next for nil. Kids will start getting paid by collectives to go a school not when they graduate and sign but as sophomores and juniors. In Missouri, HS guys can get money early if you have committed to a Mizzou college, and that's for just a verbal. It's over as we once knew it, with the new era and saban gone, my interest is minimal now. What's funny is that none of the adults involved here like what is happening but they are the ones who are responsible for this mess.
I don't follow basketball much because of the one and done crap that makes it impossible to get invested in the team. Football is quickly reaching that threshold for me.
I used to love following recruiting, discussing the depth chart, watch players grow during their time at Bama. Now it just feels like everyone has the attitude of mercenary.
Sure, I'll watch the games when they are on. I'll want Bama to win, but it just doesn't feel like it used to. Wins aren't as big, losses don't hurt as much. Yeah, that's part of growing older and maturing, but it's also the state of the game.
Now we'll have a 12 team playoff. Why? More money. I guarantee it won't stop at 12. In almost everything in life....once that slippery slope starts to lean a little, it soon becomes just a cliff.
I used to love following recruiting, discussing the depth chart, watch players grow during their time at Bama. Now it just feels like everyone has the attitude of mercenary.
Sure, I'll watch the games when they are on. I'll want Bama to win, but it just doesn't feel like it used to. Wins aren't as big, losses don't hurt as much. Yeah, that's part of growing older and maturing, but it's also the state of the game.
Now we'll have a 12 team playoff. Why? More money. I guarantee it won't stop at 12. In almost everything in life....once that slippery slope starts to lean a little, it soon becomes just a cliff.
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I don't disagree with the loss of interest. I was slipping on that before Saban retired.
The Basket Case household just renewed football season tickets and Tide Pride for 2024. But it was Mrs. Basket Case that wanted to do it more than I did.
Which leads to a question I haven't seen addressed: A lot of universities, in no way limited to Alabama, have a bunch of debt used to upgrade facilities, renovate stadiums, etc., etc.
What happens to that debt if overall fan engagement slips to the point that Tide Pride and its analogues at other schools start to see donations dip and have unsold seat licenses?
Right now, there's still a waiting list for Tide Pride. I wonder if the average length of time spent on the waiting list has changed in recent years? I don't know, and Greg Byrne certainly isn't saying. But I'm deadly curious.
The Basket Case household just renewed football season tickets and Tide Pride for 2024. But it was Mrs. Basket Case that wanted to do it more than I did.
Which leads to a question I haven't seen addressed: A lot of universities, in no way limited to Alabama, have a bunch of debt used to upgrade facilities, renovate stadiums, etc., etc.
What happens to that debt if overall fan engagement slips to the point that Tide Pride and its analogues at other schools start to see donations dip and have unsold seat licenses?
Right now, there's still a waiting list for Tide Pride. I wonder if the average length of time spent on the waiting list has changed in recent years? I don't know, and Greg Byrne certainly isn't saying. But I'm deadly curious.
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Well, ESPN just signed up for a $7.8 billion contract for the playoffs. And; private equity firms are looking at buying LARGE stakes in major college football teams rights.
I really don't watch much Alabama (or any) football anymore, since most games of interest are either at difficult times or behind some kind of paywall, SEC Network, ESPN etc. I follow along with apps and Tidefans a lot. I don't care for cable or paying many hundreds of dollars a year to watch 7-9 more games on someone else's schedule. I doubt I'm alone in this.
How will that work? What type of stake will they own, and what influence will they have on the program?
Burford High School in Georgia is building a $60 million high school football stadium.
I can't remember the kids name, but this past football season in Alabama a high school kid transfered to another high school right before the playoffs began...the team he left wasn't going to the playoffs and the team he joined was going. Just suddenly swapped teams so he could be in the playoffs.
I can't remember the kids name, but this past football season in Alabama a high school kid transfered to another high school right before the playoffs began...the team he left wasn't going to the playoffs and the team he joined was going. Just suddenly swapped teams so he could be in the playoffs.
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What college football is figuring out is what the nfl organizations figured out long ago. 100k seat stadiums are a dumb idea because change is inevitable. At some point you had to see the advancements in technology and the price gouging on Gameday would eventually kill the excitement of attending live regular season games and then the changes to the sport would kill what is left of the old boosters.
I think in 5-10 years BDS will be anywhere from a 84-90k seat stadium unless CDK snags a few National Championships.
I think that within 3 years we will have 16, with also-rans questioning why we don't go to 20.
When I was in high school, Paul Finebaum made his bones by brazenly reporting the story that Bobby Lee Hurt was being paid a cut of the concessions money at basketball games to stay at my school, S.R. Butler in Huntsville rather than accept an offer (yeah, there was a bidding war even in 1981) to the white-flight school, Gus Grissom in Southeast Huntsville.
Back then, one didn't DARE print a negative story about the University or one of its recruits in an Alabama newspaper. That's how Finebaum made his name, for good or ill. It's always been dirty.
Can't remember his name either, but the player transferred to Thompson. One of the better players for 25.
NIL is holding schools and fans hostage. Either pay the ransom or so and so players will go somewhere else. Even after paying they still might. These same Bama players who ran like scalded dogs as soon as Saban announced his retirement may have bolted at some point anyway, even if Saban hadn't retired
school loyalty and/or education are DEAD
school loyalty and/or education are DEAD
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at this point, it seems like they are actively trying to lose people
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