Note: Bush DID claim 9/11 connection with Iraq

[doctorgonzo]

Seems there is some confusion on this issue. I just wanted to clear it up.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-1.html

 

[POWERLINEMAN42]

well when you are tied in with the terrorists and they do what they done on 9/11 you should go down with them. you dont think so?

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[doctorgonzo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by POWERLINEMAN42:
well when you are tied in with the terrorists and they do what they done on 9/11 you should go down with them. you dont think so?

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That is not the issue. I see people calling another member of this board a liar and telling him to move to another country for claiming Bush said Saddam was tied to 9/11. This letter above not only proves Bush made these claims, but he used it as a pretext to go to war with Iraq. I just wanted to set the record straight.

 

[Croaker]

The key to that staement is not that Iraq helped plan 9/11 or that Iraq had ties to Al Qaida but that Iraq is one of the nations that have ties to "terrorists and terrorists oraganizations". The reference to 9/11 is stated as "including those nations..." tied to 9/11. This is an additive to the statement not the subject of the argument.
Let us not forget that there were ties between Iraq and al Qaida prior to and after 9/11, not to mention the terrorist camps located in Iraq of groups like Ansar al Islam who had ties to al Qaida. That is why we went into Iraq. It was a preemptive strike, not a responsive strike. Taken in the proper context, Pres. Bush did not lie. We took out Saddam before he could act against us.

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[PeteTheYankee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Croaker:
The reference to 9/11 is stated as "including those nations..." tied to 9/11. This is an additive to the statement not the subject of the argument.</font>

EXACTLY.

There's no insistence in that letter that there was an Iraq-9/11 connection, except insomuch as Iraq had ties to terror. Of course, who needs facts anymore? They're SO 1980.

This is a very typical sort of propaganda that's been going around. Folks just LOVE to misinterpret and/or misquote the President so as to significantly change the meaning of the statements to fit whatever works best for them at the moment.

 

[ed4tide4u2]

doctorgonzo, You seem to be another voice in the wilderness. I can hear you though.

 

[CrimsonNan]

Note: Bush DID claim 9/11 connection with Iraq

No he didn't Gonzo. Give it up!

 

[JH-ATL]

docgonzo

You are either terribly misinformed or like the nytimes, just spouting.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Uh, well, there IS a connection between the two. I couldn't care less what Bush said.

 

[REALtide]

Bingo Jack.....I think Iraq played a huge role in 9/11. I still remember seeing celebratory paintings of the attacks on school walls in Iraq.....wish I had right clicked a couple of 'em now , but they made me mad so I didn't. Besides, this isn't Vietnam.... all the protestors of this war are just doing so to be in vogue...they think it makes 'em hip like mom and dad who burned their bra and draft cards in the 60's. They have NO clue ..... 99% of military veterans say this war it the right thing to do.... a large percentage of Hollywood freaks and washed-up has-been's from 70's music (yeah, it was a jab at him) have no idea what is taking place, they just want to be against any type of fighting there is, or they are simply mad because they hate GWB and anything resembling morals.

(wow -what a vent!)

 

[doctorgonzo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by REALtide:
Bingo Jack.....I think Iraq played a huge role in 9/11. I still remember seeing celebratory paintings of the attacks on school walls in Iraq.....wish I had right clicked a couple of 'em now , but they made me mad so I didn't. Besides, this isn't Vietnam.... all the protestors of this war are just doing so to be in vogue...they think it makes 'em hip like mom and dad who burned their bra and draft cards in the 60's. They have NO clue ..... 99% of military veterans say this war it the right thing to do.... a large percentage of Hollywood freaks and washed-up has-been's from 70's music (yeah, it was a jab at him) have no idea what is taking place, they just want to be against any type of fighting there is, or they are simply mad because they hate GWB and anything resembling morals.

(wow -what a vent!)</font>

In my world you have conceded the privilege of being taken seriously. Nothing in that post makes any sense whatsoever. I am anti-war and nothing you said above applies to me.

 

[NBF_Bama_Cavalry]

I read it. I can't reach the conclusion from that letter that Bush claimed a Saddam connection to 9-11.

Maybe it's there, but I can't see it.

I do believe that there were factions in Iraq that were closely tied to al-Qaeda, therefore to 9-11. I also believe that Saddam's regime was actively supporting the terrorist networks in Iraq, including but not limited to, al-Qaeda. They probably didn't receive their orders from him, but I think they got a lot of support.

Nevertheless, Saddam was a threat to the U.S. even though he seemingly didn't have the strength to significantly harm us. 19 illegal Arab immigrants were seemingly insignificant also.

In the State of the Union address, President Bush said that we would fight terrorists wherever we found them. I believe that included Iraq.


It appears that maybe the http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=390619-11 panel</a> thinks it's a possibility too.

[This message has been edited by NBF_Bama_Cavalry (edited 06-21-2004).]

 

[Bamaro]

There is absolutely no evidence of any connection between Iraq and 911. If you think there is, show me. Sure, Saddam may have had some contacts with al Quida operatives. That however is a LONG way from having anything to do with 911. Saddam & Osama Bin Laden didn't care much for each other.

 

[Dr. Know]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bamaro:
There is absolutely no evidence of any connection between Iraq and 911. If you think there is, show me. Sure, Saddam may have had some contacts with al Quida operatives. That however is a LONG way from having anything to do with 911. Saddam & Osama Bin Laden didn't care much for each other.</font>

Lets see here, Saddam gave 20K for every suicide bomber against Israel but never funded Osama's cause........hahahahahahah. You are trying to be funny......aren't you?

 

[Nate Harris]

Saddam gave 20K to suicide bombers in Israel, therefore he was a 9/11 conspirator.

I guess it's impossible for you to get your head around the idea that even if he was very happy to see it happen, he had no part in 9/11.

 

[NYBamaFan]

So, lack of evidence that Saddam provided support for 9/11 is now accepted as evidence that he did not support the attacks?

He has a history of supporting terrorism around the globe. It is not a stretch to assume that he might have been in some way involved in the attacks on 9/11. If he was not involved, it was not for lack of interest...

 

[Mamacalled]

There have been many articles recently from the New Yorker to the Wall Street Journal documenting the facts that Saddam did in fact have connections with Al-Queda. These connections WERE NOT WEAK TIES AS OUR LIBS BLINDLY SPEAK. These are undisputible facts if you actually use an open mind instead of a biased one. I can't believe all the closed minds. I love how the libs and the isolationalist love to distort the fact that because no strong evidence shows that Saddam didn't help plan the attacks then he must not have supported Al-Queda. As far as the rhetoric that Saddam and Osama hated each other, where are the facts?
As far as the isolationaist, yep it works. Just ask how Hitler became so powerful. It worked well for him. Idiota.

 

[REALtide]

Where did all the stupid anti-war Libs come from anyway..... I figured this being an Alabama site , you'd miss out on the inbred Mississippi folks all together....

guess I figured wrong

 

[Bowens]

This is what the letter from the president stated:

"2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001."

nowhere in there does he say Saddam was a co-conspirator with usama on 9/11. However, for "National Security" the war is justified because the last three presidents all preached and beat the same drum...WMD. He had it, he used it before and it is probably in Syria or buried in the desert. President Bush made the wisest choice given the circumstances and the information. I support him 1000% and I also support the fact that others may disagree with his choice or my opinion of his choice. However, let's not start calling Presidents liars and war mongers and such or even insinuating something like that. I recall this is America and we are all in it together.
oh and Roll Tide.