Obama’s Dismal Midterm Approval Is The Worst Rating In 20 Years

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If you regard Iraq a complete failure on every level, and the absolute wrong thing to have done, then sure placing all that blame at George Bush's feet is logical and it's difficult to impossible for him to overcome in the "worst president ever" contest.

But you must remember he had the support of Congress - including the Democrats.

Barack Obama has broken the law so often you can't count the times he's done so anymore. So his ideology tells him it's ok to have broken the law in order to do all of this stuff and that would be one thing if the stuff we're talking about has been the best thing for this country. It has not been, however. It's been the worst thing.

Yes, I'll list Obama as the worst on my list. George Bush isn't far behind on that one either. But I understand why someone would have them swapped. What I don't understand is anyone thinking Obama is anything outside of the 5 worst of all time.
 

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If you regard Iraq a complete failure on every level, and the absolute wrong thing to have done, then sure placing all that blame at George Bush's feet is logical and it's difficult to impossible for him to overcome in the "worst president ever" contest.

But you must remember he had the support of Congress - including the Democrats.

Barack Obama has broken the law so often you can't count the times he's done so anymore. So his ideology tells him it's ok to have broken the law in order to do all of this stuff and that would be one thing if the stuff we're talking about has been the best thing for this country. It has not been, however. It's been the worst thing.

Yes, I'll list Obama as the worst on my list. George Bush isn't far behind on that one either. But I understand why someone would have them swapped. What I don't understand is anyone thinking Obama is anything outside of the 5 worst of all time.
He (and others in the administration) supplied congress with the false information and unfortunately they believed him
 

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He (and others in the administration) supplied congress with the false information and unfortunately they believed him
I assume you are referring to "weapons of mass destruction".

Is it your contention that Saddam Hussein's regime never possessed such weapons? Is it your contention that Saddam Hussein's regime never attempted to create or otherwise acquire such weapons? Is it your contention that no weapons of mass destruction were ever found in Iraq following the First Gulf War? Is it your contention that Saddam Hussein's regime cooperated fully with the United Nations and complied with all disarmament requirements following the First Gulf War?
 

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He (and others in the administration) supplied congress with the false information and unfortunately they believed him
This is simply not true. I sat through all of the presentations they gave to Congress. The information was real. Perhaps it wasn't serious enough to go to war over, but they weren't selling some fantasy that poor pitiful Congress bought.
 

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Left wing narrative: Bush was an idiot, but he was smart enough to trick Congress, every other intelligence service in the world, and history (of Saddam using chemical weapons).
 
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Left wing narrative: Bush was an idiot, but he was smart enough to trick Congress, every other intelligence service in the world, and history (of Saddam using chemical weapons).
I got the same schtick from Brits when I was living in the UK 2005-2007.
"Bush is an idiot and the Brits being in Iraq is Bush's fault."
I asked them, "So, how did this clod-hopper trick Tony Blair into sending British troops to Iraq? Mind control or some such?"
 

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This is simply not true. I sat through all of the presentations they gave to Congress. The information was real. Perhaps it wasn't serious enough to go to war over, but they weren't selling some fantasy that poor pitiful Congress bought.
Aluminum tubes, yellowcake, curve ball . . . yeah, it was real crap
 

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Let's be honest. We knew Iraq had WMDs because we sold/gave them to Saddam when Iraq was at war with Iran. The excuse for invading was bogus because we already knew the answer. We didn't go there for WMDs, we went there to gain control of one indisputable asset and turn it over to our economic overlords. Mission accomplished.
 

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Let's be honest. We knew Iraq had WMDs because we sold/gave them to Saddam when Iraq was at war with Iran. The excuse for invading was bogus because we already knew the answer. We didn't go there for WMDs, we went there to gain control of one indisputable asset and turn it over to our economic overlords. Mission accomplished.
They had them at one time and used them against their own and possibly Iran. By the time we invaded they had none and apparently weren't trying to rebuild at that time either.
 

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They had them at one time and used them against their own and possibly Iran. By the time we invaded they had none and apparently weren't trying to rebuild at that time either.
Not sure which invasion you are referring to, but after the first Gulf war, a significant quantity of chemical weapons were apparently confiscated by the United Nations.
 

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I recall hearing about Israeli intelligence reports that had Iraqi chemical weapons being shipped to Syria. But, who knows what is true, what is disinformation, or what is completely made up by "sources"?
 

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