Pate - Vols at Bama prediction

[Cruloc]

You're welcome.

And I agree with him, I'd love to see both teams wear home jerseys in this series.

 

[Bama_N_Va]

Win the O LOS, win the game...that simple!!!

 

[Cruloc]

Win the O LOS, win the game...that simple!!!

I think if Carroll is ready to go now, as Grubb as stated.....we may start looking better on the OL.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I think if Carroll is ready to go now, as Grubb as stated.....we may start looking better on the OL.

I'd rather have no mistakes. But if I have to tolerate them, let them be from a freshman. At least he has a realistic chance of improving.

Only tangentially related: It'll also be interesting to see how the staff's willingness to publicly challenge players will go over in this day of the transfer portal.

Wommack calls out Domani Jackson. Grubb calls out Wilkin Formby. And I guarantee you DeBoer blessed doing it publicly. Most staffs would be worried that the player gets his widdle feewings hurt, and he quits and transfers. Not this staff.

Maybe it's tough love. Maybe it's old-school coaching. Maybe they're figuring that if the player transfers, they aren't losing much. Maybe all of those.

Whatever the reasoning, I'm watching to see how or whether it works.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I'd rather have no mistakes. But if I have to tolerate them, let them be from a freshman. At least he has a realistic chance of improving.

Only tangentially related: It'll also be interesting to see how the staff's willingness to publicly challenge players will go over in this day of the transfer portal.

Wommack calls out Domani Jackson. Grubb calls out Wilkin Formby. And I guarantee you DeBoer blessed doing it publicly. Most staffs would be worried that the player gets his widdle feewings hurt, and he quits and transfers. Not this staff.

Maybe it's tough love. Maybe it's old-school coaching. Maybe they're figuring that if the player transfers, they aren't losing much. Maybe all of those.

Whatever the reasoning, I'm watching to see how or whether it works.

I think this staff has reached a point where they're more worried about keeping their jobs (by continuing to win) than hurting a player's feelings and he transfers.

 

[CB4]

I think this staff has reached a point where they're more worried about keeping their jobs (by continuing to win) than hurting a player's feelings and he transfers.

As it should be.

 

[Methylred]

I'd rather have no mistakes. But if I have to tolerate them, let them be from a freshman. At least he has a realistic chance of improving.

Only tangentially related: It'll also be interesting to see how the staff's willingness to publicly challenge players will go over in this day of the transfer portal.

Wommack calls out Domani Jackson. Grubb calls out Wilkin Formby. And I guarantee you DeBoer blessed doing it publicly. Most staffs would be worried that the player gets his widdle feewings hurt, and he quits and transfers. Not this staff.

Maybe it's tough love. Maybe it's old-school coaching. Maybe they're figuring that if the player transfers, they aren't losing much. Maybe all of those.

Whatever the reasoning, I'm watching to see how or whether it works.

I'd much rather suffer the growing pains of a hungry and disciplined freshman than endure the same mistakes time and time again from a complacent and entitled upperclassman.

If that leads to certain players transferring then so be it.

 

[Con]

I'd rather have no mistakes. But if I have to tolerate them, let them be from a freshman. At least he has a realistic chance of improving.

Only tangentially related: It'll also be interesting to see how the staff's willingness to publicly challenge players will go over in this day of the transfer portal.

Wommack calls out Domani Jackson. Grubb calls out Wilkin Formby. And I guarantee you DeBoer blessed doing it publicly. Most staffs would be worried that the player gets his widdle feewings hurt, and he quits and transfers. Not this staff.

Maybe it's tough love. Maybe it's old-school coaching. Maybe they're figuring that if the player transfers, they aren't losing much. Maybe all of those.

Whatever the reasoning, I'm watching to see how or whether it works.

D. Jackson is absolutely terrible some of the time.

 

[CrimsonBloodn62]

I think this staff has reached a point where they're more worried about keeping their jobs (by continuing to win) than hurting a player's feelings and he transfers.

Just play the players that give you the best chance to win. I'm well past worrying about whether someone might transfer or if coaches are making decisions based on NIL deals. If a player is more focused on their personal brand than the team, then honestly, good riddance. Give me guys who are bought in and want to win.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Just play the players that give you the best chance to win. I'm well past worrying about whether someone might transfer or if coaches are making decisions based on NIL deals. If a player is more focused on their personal brand than the team, then honestly, good riddance. Give me guys who are bought in and want to win.

And it doesn't matter how talented they are, if they are more focused on their brand and making money, their play on the field more than likely won't be what you're wanting anyway, because they're distracted.

 

[colbysullivan]

Just play the players that give you the best chance to win. I'm well past worrying about whether someone might transfer or if coaches are making decisions based on NIL deals. If a player is more focused on their personal brand than the team, then honestly, good riddance. Give me guys who are bought in and want to win.

And it doesn't matter how talented they are, if they are more focused on their brand and making money, their play on the field more than likely won't be what you're wanting anyway, because they're distracted.

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Milroe?!?!?!?

 

[Bubbaloo]

Milroe who? He long gone. ROLL TIDE and beat the cheaTo's !

 

[Special K]

D. Jackson is absolutely terrible some of the time.

His play on Missouri's first TD Saturday was twilight zone bad. Standing 3 yards out of bounds while the guy that caught the TD pass runs right past him.

 

[Con]

His play on Missouri's first TD Saturday was twilight zone bad. Standing 3 yards out of bounds while the guy that caught the TD pass runs right past him.

He was thinking the ball was overthrown and he was going to intercept it even though he was so far out of bounds the water boys were standing beside him.

 

[bamaslammer]

I am not one of those that thinks you cannot rotate some on the OL, but I think at this point it's a little too much. We need to pick our best 5, practice with them all week and go into the game with those 5. If one of them sucks, yank them for someone else, but at least plan to go with our best guess. We need to get Williams back on the field. I know he's not perfect but he can still make plays that are practically indefensible at times and that's an X factor we need if for nothing else but to keep them too scared to stack the box.

 

[BamaInCummingGA]

I am not one of those that thinks you cannot rotate some on the OL, but I think at this point it's a little too much. We need to pick our best 5, practice with them all week and go into the game with those 5. If one of them sucks, yank them for someone else, but at least plan to go with our best guess. We need to get Williams back on the field. I know he's not perfect but he can still make plays that are practically indefensible at times and that's an X factor we need if for nothing else but to keep them too scared to stack the box.

Williams needs to get Williams back on the field.

 

[Cruloc]

I am not one of those that thinks you cannot rotate some on the OL, but I think at this point it's a little too much. We need to pick our best 5, practice with them all week and go into the game with those 5. If one of them sucks, yank them for someone else, but at least plan to go with our best guess. We need to get Williams back on the field. I know he's not perfect but he can still make plays that are practically indefensible at times and that's an X factor we need if for nothing else but to keep them too scared to stack the box.

Williams needs to get healthy physically and mentally. I think the latter is what he struggles with the most. Tends to run sloppy routes, doesn't block the way you'd expect, loafs a lot when he knows he's not getting the ball....at least he appears to.

 

[BamaInBham]

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Milroe?!?!?!?

I think I understand what you are saying, but theirs is a difference between losing one player and losing half of the team, which is what many think was at stake. IDK. For CKD to replace JM would have been beyond difficult and certainly at first ludicrous.

Keep in mind that going in to the 2024 UT game, Jalen was the 3rd ranked passer in the nation according a post I read on another board in the last week. That’s not counting his sometimes scintillating running prowess. I assume he was still heavily in the Heisman talk. He was the reigning SEC Champion QB and game MVP. He had led the team to within OT of the NC finals and a likely win. He was the reigning AP 2nd team All-SEC QB only behind Heisman winner Jayden Daniels. IMO, there’s not a coach in the history of the game, including Bryant, Wade, Saban, Thomas, Stallings, Neyland, Pop Warner, Stagg, et al. who would have benched Milroe. So, there was no way the successful but little known replacement for the greatest coach of all time was going replace the championship QB he had left to him and who was still performing at a reasonably high level. And it’s not like Ty was lighting it up as his backup. He was a career 59% passer vs scrubs of lesser competition, which is why he was in those games. He threw multiple balls up for grabs, probably trying to emulate the first team QB’s long ball. He showed promise at times but he was nothing like Tua (but neither was Bryce or anyone else, though IMO Bryce showed more promise.) But most fans still had hope because it was just mop up duty.

It was then that Milroe had the terrible game vs UT. It was so bad that I genuinely thought he was injured. He had never missed passes that badly before. Some were literally 15 feet over the head of the receiver. Then he had the spectacular game vs LSU where not only did he show his breathtaking speed but he operated the offense like a real QB, throwing short and mid range passes like a real QB. I was shocked and thought Jalen and the O had turned the corner. Then the awful OU game, which was not all on him. IMO, it’s why KP is gone - he may have already checked out. There were dropped passes and JM came unraveled and did not recover. He played adequately vs AU in a solid win. Then the final disaster vs Mich. It was a sad end to what has become a sad episode that keeps being played over and over with viewpoints quite different in some respects than mine.

Ty is not the same QB that he was last year. Could he have developed as quickly as he did this year - IMO, not likely. The confidence that he has gained from being “the man” without JM, to whom Ty looked up according to his own testimony, has been significant. The extra time spent in the “real” DeBoer O has been incredibly beneficial as well as the development of his leadership which would have been impossible with Jalen around, even in a supportive role.

Ty is now having a wonderful year. He one of the few college QBs this year who is doing NFL reading AND throwing. He still has things to clean up. He knows it and accepts it. But this team will only go as far as his remarkable transformation, his passing and leadership, will take it. This is a passing team and he’s going to have to be “on” for this team to beat top teams, sometimes even mid teams, though Alabama will see few if any of those.

But IMO, history is different than some remember it and to blame CKD for not acting differently is unreasonable.

 

[Ledsteplin]

Williams needs to get Williams back on the field.

Apparently he took a big hit in the Vandy game. Here's what DeBoer said after the Mizzou game.
"Just something that carried over from last week's game. It would have been earlier in the game last week, just took a took a hit," DeBoer said. "He didn't get to practice as much this week. That's why he was on the report, which makes it a little harder to get him out there, especially when you have the confidence in other guys to go make plays.
"And so I haven't got the report exactly how he got through. I know he was out there and did help us. I would expect him to continue to make progress. He's not that far away."

 

[RammerJammer14]

Apparently he took a big hit in the Vandy game. Here's what DeBoer said after the Mizzou game.
"Just something that carried over from last week's game. It would have been earlier in the game last week, just took a took a hit," DeBoer said. "He didn't get to practice as much this week. That's why he was on the report, which makes it a little harder to get him out there, especially when you have the confidence in other guys to go make plays.
"And so I haven't got the report exactly how he got through. I know he was out there and did help us. I would expect him to continue to make progress. He's not that far away."

If I remember correctly he got hit in the head after catching a pass. But of course no penalty because it wasn’t a crown.