Photos from a Nov. 3 Rally in San Francisco

Bamaro

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No, Kerry never acted anything like those pictured. I honor what he did, I reject what those are doing. That was the problem with the whole anti war protests back then. The radicals tried to take over, the media seeing a better story focused on them, the honorable protestors were painted with a broad brush.
You dont have to be part of a radical fringe to believe that a war is wrong.
 

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Bamaro said:
No, Kerry never acted anything like those pictured. I honor what he did, I reject what those are doing. That was the problem with the whole anti war protests back then. The radicals tried to take over, the media seeing a better story focused on them, the honorable protestors were painted with a broad brush.
You dont have to be part of a radical fringe to believe that a war is wrong.

Jocularity..look it up.

BTW there wasnt a D@# thing honorable about what keery did. If you havent learned that from the multiple attempts to demonstrate it before the election, well then..sorry.
And kerry WAS a radical. Those in the pics had black lipstick, kerry had black Thai stick !
 

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Bamaro said:
No, Kerry never acted anything like those pictured. I honor what he did, I reject what those are doing. That was the problem with the whole anti war protests back then. The radicals tried to take over, the media seeing a better story focused on them, the honorable protestors were painted with a broad brush.
You dont have to be part of a radical fringe to believe that a war is wrong.
His actions racheted up the torture and inhumane treatment of our POW's and you "honor" that?
 

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His actions racheted up the torture and inhumane treatment of our POW's and you "honor" that?

TM,
I am convinced that many on the left simply either choose to ignore history or somehow put the history they choose to ignore in the "it is just republican tricks" part of their brain. If niether of these work then there is the "they all do it" place that they can secure the disabused history.
 

Bamaro

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His actions racheted up the torture and inhumane treatment of our POW's and you "honor" that?
No, I am not glad that his actions had the unfortunate consequence of that. But he said things that needed to be said and you cant hold back because of that. Carter held back because he didn't want to risk harming the hostages and we see where that got him.
Also, do you really think Kerry's statements had that much effect on how our POWs were treated? No, not really.
 

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So you are saying that is honorable to commit war crimes? Firing in free-fire zones and burning down villages which he said he did before Congress. Is that honorable?
 

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I've always said that if the decent democrats in this country would have to stand side by side in public with these idiots that they would wise up, but it seems like they just ignore that their party is full of these "anti-americans". How could you support someone (Kerry or whoever else) that is supported by such psychos? Our founding fathers would have hung these people from the highest tree.
 

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No, I am not glad that his actions had the unfortunate consequence of that. But he said things that needed to be said and you cant hold back because of that. Carter held back because he didn't want to risk harming the hostages and we see where that got him.
Also, do you really think Kerry's statements had that much effect on how our POWs were treated? No, not really.
Excuse me, sir. But men who had the unfortunate duty of staying in the Hanoi Hilton specifically said that their tormentors used Mr. Kerry's own words against them.

And, as the nephew of one of them, I cannot tell you how their suffering still hurts them to this day. TO THIS DAY. Yes, Mr. Kerry's comments had that much of an effect on how the POW's were treated.

Kerry, for all his posturing as a war hero, was nothing more than an anti-war poser. We would never have stood up to any aggression with that man as President and thankfully, most of the people saw it. I'm not saying he is a bad man. He was just the wrong guy.
 

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Also, do you really think Kerry's statements had that much effect on how our POWs were treated? No, not really.
Bamaro - please read When Hell Was In Session by Jeremiah Denton. It is out of print, but you can still get copies online. Please do this. It will open your eyes. I know you truly believe Kerry's actions didn't have any negative impact, but please do yourself a favor and read the words of a man who was in POW camps (Hanoi Hilton being one of them) for seven years. Learn what they did to him and others. Learn why. Learn what they said others were saying, and why. Learn.

I don't think Kerry had malicious or treasonous intentions, I honestly don't. But that doesn't mean that what he did and said didn't have those effects. They did. Read When Hell Was In Session. You will never be the same. I cannot fathom how any man had the strength of will to survive that long when all they were hearing from their captors was how their fellow soldiers were 'confessing' to war crimes, which resulted in even harsher, more brutal punishment for the POWs.

Jeremiah Denton is/was a war hero. Surely you do not deny this. His book has no agenda, it is simply an account of what happened to him in his 7 years in imprisonment. Honestly, there are no political over-tones or undertones, no agenda, no politics, it simply tells what happened. Please read this. Every American should.
 

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GulfCoastTider said:
Excuse me, sir. But men who had the unfortunate duty of staying in the Hanoi Hilton specifically said that their tormentors used Mr. Kerry's own words against them.

And, as the nephew of one of them, I cannot tell you how their suffering still hurts them to this day. TO THIS DAY. Yes, Mr. Kerry's comments had that much of an effect on how the POW's were treated.

Kerry, for all his posturing as a war hero, was nothing more than an anti-war poser. We would never have stood up to any aggression with that man as President and thankfully, most of the people saw it. I'm not saying he is a bad man. He was just the wrong guy.
Its unfortunate but you cant change foreign policy or suppress valid free speach because of that. If its wrong, its still wrong, whether someone has prisoners or not. :rolleye2:
 

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Bamaro said:
Its unfortunate but you cant change foreign policy or suppress valid free speach because of that. If its wrong, its still wrong, whether someone has prisoners or not. :rolleye2:

It is one thing to try and effect change. It is quite another to give aid and comfort to the enemy when the nation is at war. kerry knew the rules when he went in, he got his medals and got out asap. What he did publically was about HIM. Not the war. He turned his back on the men he bailed on. I will say it, he was and is a selfish,bad man.
 

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