Now THAT is funny. hehehe.They seem perfectly normal war protesting lib types. One of them might actually run for president one day and swear into the camera they were in Iraq fighting.
Now THAT is funny. hehehe.They seem perfectly normal war protesting lib types. One of them might actually run for president one day and swear into the camera they were in Iraq fighting.
Yea it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :biggrin2:Vertical said:Now THAT is funny. hehehe.
Bamaro said:No, Kerry never acted anything like those pictured. I honor what he did, I reject what those are doing. That was the problem with the whole anti war protests back then. The radicals tried to take over, the media seeing a better story focused on them, the honorable protestors were painted with a broad brush.
You dont have to be part of a radical fringe to believe that a war is wrong.
His actions racheted up the torture and inhumane treatment of our POW's and you "honor" that?Bamaro said:No, Kerry never acted anything like those pictured. I honor what he did, I reject what those are doing. That was the problem with the whole anti war protests back then. The radicals tried to take over, the media seeing a better story focused on them, the honorable protestors were painted with a broad brush.
You dont have to be part of a radical fringe to believe that a war is wrong.
TommyMac said:His actions racheted up the torture and inhumane treatment of our POW's and you "honor" that?
No, I am not glad that his actions had the unfortunate consequence of that. But he said things that needed to be said and you cant hold back because of that. Carter held back because he didn't want to risk harming the hostages and we see where that got him.TommyMac said:His actions racheted up the torture and inhumane treatment of our POW's and you "honor" that?
Excuse me, sir. But men who had the unfortunate duty of staying in the Hanoi Hilton specifically said that their tormentors used Mr. Kerry's own words against them.Bamaro said:No, I am not glad that his actions had the unfortunate consequence of that. But he said things that needed to be said and you cant hold back because of that. Carter held back because he didn't want to risk harming the hostages and we see where that got him.
Also, do you really think Kerry's statements had that much effect on how our POWs were treated? No, not really.
Bamaro - please read When Hell Was In Session by Jeremiah Denton. It is out of print, but you can still get copies online. Please do this. It will open your eyes. I know you truly believe Kerry's actions didn't have any negative impact, but please do yourself a favor and read the words of a man who was in POW camps (Hanoi Hilton being one of them) for seven years. Learn what they did to him and others. Learn why. Learn what they said others were saying, and why. Learn.Also, do you really think Kerry's statements had that much effect on how our POWs were treated? No, not really.
Its unfortunate but you cant change foreign policy or suppress valid free speach because of that. If its wrong, its still wrong, whether someone has prisoners or not. :rolleye2:GulfCoastTider said:Excuse me, sir. But men who had the unfortunate duty of staying in the Hanoi Hilton specifically said that their tormentors used Mr. Kerry's own words against them.
And, as the nephew of one of them, I cannot tell you how their suffering still hurts them to this day. TO THIS DAY. Yes, Mr. Kerry's comments had that much of an effect on how the POW's were treated.
Kerry, for all his posturing as a war hero, was nothing more than an anti-war poser. We would never have stood up to any aggression with that man as President and thankfully, most of the people saw it. I'm not saying he is a bad man. He was just the wrong guy.
Bamaro said:Its unfortunate but you cant change foreign policy or suppress valid free speach because of that. If its wrong, its still wrong, whether someone has prisoners or not. :rolleye2: