Public Enemy No. 1: Volunteers ’ Fulmer a key cog in upcoming Tuscaloosa trial

[Crimson Surfer]

Public Enemy No. 1: Volunteers ’ Fulmer a key cog in upcoming Tuscaloosa trial

It’s been almost a whole year since University of Tennessee football coach Phillip Fulmer chose to accept a $10,000 fine for skipping Media Days in Birmingham rather than risk being subpoenaed for a deposition.

But soon, one way or another, he’s going to cross the state line into Alabama and almost certainly receive a rude welcoming.

Attorneys: Fulmer testimony is needed

In a reply to the NCAA's claim that Fulmer's testimony should have been taken before the April 1 discovery deposition deadline, Cottrell's attorneys say that deadline should not prevent them from obtaining trial testimony.

"This requested deposition of Phillip Fulmer is no different than the deposition allowed by this court of (former University of Alabama faculty athletics representative) Gene Marsh, which was taken June 27, 2005, after the discovery deadline," their response says.

Defendants' witness list wide-ranging

Defendants in the Ronnie Cottrell-Ivy Williams defamation lawsuit appear prepared to revisit all facets of the NCAA's investigation of the University of Alabama football program as part of the trial, according to the defendants' witness and exhibit list.

According to the list filed Friday in Tuscaloosa County Circuit Court, the NCAA, Committee on Infractions chairman Thomas Yeager and investigator Rich Johanningmeier could call at least 33 witnesses and present evidence from 269 documents in the trial scheduled to begin July 11.

Cottrell returns to coaching roots while hoping upcoming trial will clear name

It is 10:30 a.m. and already this morning, Ronnie Cottrell has removed decades of grime from the concrete football stadium stands at Carroll High School with a high-pressure washer, supervised a weightlifting workout, checked on a leak in the ceiling, put towels in the industrial-sized washing machine, discussed a leaking pipe in the laundry room with plumbers, returned several phone calls and given a visitor the nickel tour of the facilities.

 

[THE BAMA IRISHMAN]

KK Donut PHATPHIL

Ever wonder where all those donut holes go. Just look on Beacon Hill when he walks by and the light goes out. :biggrin: :biggrin:

 

[Redwood Forrest]

"This requested deposition of Phillip Fulmer is no different than the deposition allowed by this court of (former University of Alabama faculty athletics representative) Gene Marsh, which was taken June 27, 2005, after the discovery deadline," their response says.

I sure hope so. So far Alabama has been held to a different standard than the rest who tried to buy means and as for the NCAA going by the book, well they do when it suits them.

 

[SirCrimson]

Are we 100% sure there is going to be a trial in Tuscaloosa and Fatimus will be there?

 

[Crimson King]

Tennesseean article

Attorneys representing two former Alabama assistant coaches in their case against the NCAA are putting up a stink to try and get Tennessee Coach Phillip Fulmer to submit to a deposition less than two weeks before the scheduled start of a trial. But did they begin the process by appearing before a circuit court judge?

No.

As has been their habit, they first called a press conference.

You know you've got a bad case when you want to try it at press conferences and on talk radio.

That article is pretty scathing toward the plaintiffs, but it makes some good points.

Until Gallion actually produces solid proof that Fulmer has broken some law, I can't help but think it's just another attempt to get publicity and embarrass Fulmer, which the attorneys have publicly stated is part of their mission.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Tennesseean article

That article is pretty scathing toward the plaintiffs, but it makes some good points.

Until Gallion actually produces solid proof that Fulmer has broken some law, I can't help but think it's just another attempt to get publicity and embarrass Fulmer, which the attorneys have publicly stated is part of their mission.

So one of your first posts is to support Fulmer and you link in a Tennessean article to support your view. What next an audio link of Rocky Top. This case against the NCAA is "all" about Fulmer's invovlment with the NCAA and Culpepper and that he possibly initiated the entire investigation with his memos, meetings and secret tape, etc. Fulmer is a key witness and he is involved up to his neck in this lawsuit. You should know that if you only read a few articles about the Cottrell/Williams lawsuit against the NCAA. Welcome to Tide Fans "Crimson King."

 

[Crimson King]

So one of your first posts is to support Fulmer and you link in a Tennessean article to support your view. What next an audio link of Rocky Top. This case against the NCAA is "all" about Fulmer's invovlment with the NCAA and Culpepper and that he possibly initiated the entire investigation with his memos, meetings and secret tape, etc. Fulmer is a key witness and he is as involved up to his neck in this lawsuit. You should know that if you only read a few articles about the Cottrell/Williams lawsuit against the NCAA. Welcome to Tide Fans "Crimson King."

I support the truth, and I'm still waiting to see what that is. Lawyers are not usually the source of truth, regardless of what side they're on.

There's a huge difference between supporting Fulmer and not buying into Gallion's act. Do you have a reading comprehension problem or do you attack everybody that doesn't believe the Gallion hype?

I linked the article not to support my argument, but because I thought somebody might be interested in the slant that's being put on this issue by other media outlets. Is it not allowed to post links to articles that don't support Gallion? My point is that his credibility is suffering in this case. I personally don't believe most of what any lawyer says in the media. In Gallion's case, he's not provided the evidence he promised. There's good reason to question his credibility.

Secondly, the case is not all about Fulmer. He's not even named as a witness in the case from what I've read. I don't doubt that many of you have read more of the documents than I have, so there may be new information I haven't seen. But I prefer hard evidence over speculation and accusations. Actually, I prefer to talk football rather than lawsuits and conspiracies.

And thanks for the nice welcome. It's always nice to be attacked for being objective by the moderators.

 

[GoBama#1]

Have you ever wondered why Fatimus Maximus is afraid to testify? (hint, its not because they won't be providing free donuts at the courthouse)

 

[Crimson King]

Have you ever wondered why Fatimus Maximus is afraid to testify? (hint, its not because they won't be providing free donuts at the courthouse)

Why would anybody want to give a deposition or testify if they don't have to? Whether Fulmer has something to hide or not, it's understandable that he would want to avoid it. If he did testify or give a deposition, I'd be real interested to see what came out. But nobody in their right mind wants to get grilled by attorneys if they can avoid it, regardless of their guilt or innocence. And I don't buy the theory that he can prove his innocence that way (if by chance he is actually innocent.) He stands to gain nothing by testifying. Gallion's team has one primary objective in regard to Fulmer - to embarrass him and do him as much damage as possible. I can't imagine why anybody would want to subject themselves to that if they have the option of avoiding it. Besides, the athletic department provides free donuts.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

I support the truth, and I'm still waiting to see what that is. Lawyers are not usually the source of truth, regardless of what side they're on.

There's a huge difference between supporting Fulmer and not buying into Gallion's act. Do you have a reading comprehension problem or do you attack everybody that doesn't believe the Gallion hype?

I linked the article not to support my argument, but because I thought somebody might be interested in the slant that's being put on this issue by other media outlets. Is it not allowed to post links to articles that don't support Gallion? My point is that his credibility is suffering in this case. I personally don't believe most of what any lawyer says in the media. In Gallion's case, he's not provided the evidence he promised. There's good reason to question his credibility.

Secondly, the case is not all about Fulmer. He's not even named as a witness in the case from what I've read. I don't doubt that many of you have read more of the documents than I have, so there may be new information I haven't seen. But I prefer hard evidence over speculation and accusations. Actually, I prefer to talk football rather than lawsuits and conspiracies.

And thanks for the nice welcome. It's always nice to be attacked for being objective by the moderators.

Well thanks for answering my question about your allegiance. I don't know how you can say you support the truth. If you had read recent articles on the Cottrell/Williams trial from the Birmingham News, Montgomery Advertiser, and Huntsville Times you would "know" that "other media outlets" in Alabama have said almost the same thing days before the Tennessean article "Subpoena for Fulmer? Sheer folly" you linked.

Here is a link to the thread on this board with the other articles and discussion.

http://tidefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29258&highlight=Cottrell/Williams+trial

Alabama Newspapers and Bama fans have many different views and opinions. You asked do I have a reading comprehension problem or do I attack everybody that doesn't believe the Gallion hype? The answer to both questions is no. I didn't attack you. I just stated that is was very obvious to me that you are not a Bama fan and that the moniker Crimson King does not fit in my opiinion. lol It was not because of your opinion it was becasue you linked in a late article about a situation that had been discussed from one of the most biased Tennessee newspapers in support of everything Volunteer related. You then later implied that we on this board needed a Tennessse perspective or "slant" to get to the truth.

We accept Tennessee fans and their opinions here as long as they abide by the board rules. If you think my reply to your post was an attack I apologize for that. I was just trying to be funny in my usual dry sense of humor hence the wink smilie. lol Again Welcome to Tide Fans Crimson King lets discuss soom football.

 

[Crimson King]

Well thanks for answering my question about your allegiance. I don't know how you can say you support the truth. If you had read recent articles on the Cottrell/Williams trial from the Birmingham News, Montgomery Advertiser, and Huntsville Times you would "know" that "other media outlets" in Alabama have said almost the same thing days before the Tennessean article "Subpoena for Fulmer? Sheer folly" you linked.

Here is a link to the thread on this board with the other articles and discussion.

http://tidefans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29258&highlight=Cottrell/Williams+trial

Alabama Newspapers and Bama fans have many different views and opinions. You asked do I have a reading comprehension problem or do I attack everybody that doesn't believe the Gallion hype? The answer to both questions is no. I didn't attack you. I just stated that is was very obvious to me that you are not a Bama fan and that the moniker Crimson King does not fit in my opiinion. lol It was not because of your opinion it was becasue you linked in a late article about a situation that had been discussed from one of the most biased Tennessee newspapers in support of everything Volunteer releated. You then later implied that we on this board needed a Tennessse perspective or "slant" to get to the truth.

We accept Tennessee fans and their opinions hear as long as they abide by the board rules. If you think my reply post to your post was an attack I apologize for that. I was just trying to be funny in my usual dry sense of humor hence the wink smilie. lol Again Welcome to Tide Fans Crimson King lets discuss soom football.

I see. You're one of those people that accuses anyone that doesn't believe everything Gallion or Finebaum says of being a fan of another school. I linked a Nashville article, so I'm a UT fan. Thanks, you answered the question I was about to ask regarding how well differing opinions are accepted here. If you don't love Gallion, you must be a vile or a barner or whatever. You read articles from out of state journalists, same thing. Of course, people that form their opinions based on pure speculation are the biggest part of the image problem Alabama has right now. I'm trying to avoid the category you're in.

If you want to accuse me of being a UT fan because of posting a link to a Nashville article,then fine. I've got a Journal-Constitution article I looked at this morning that might make me a Georgia fan later today.

I never said the board needed a Tennessee perspective. I said it was

because I thought somebody might be interested in the slant that's being put on this issue by other media outlets.

Nothing more. If you're not interested, then don't read it. I don't really care. I don't know how supportive they usually are of Fulmer, because I rarely read it.

If it's not reading comprehension, it's just the inability to accept something at face value. Why should something be simple when you can spin it into an alterior motive. Geez, surfer - I think you've been working on the conspiracy theories too long. My intent was to provide a link to an article you hadn't seen before. I was not sent here by John Chavis, Peyton Manning, or Tommy Tuberville.

By the way, I did read articles last week in the Huntsville and Birmingham papers you referred to. I am aware of what was said.

I'm sorry if I missed your attempt at humor. I'm new here, and I don't know anybody yet. It didn't look like a very friendly welcome to me. Maybe it was.

OK, in regard to football. I think we're gonna be much better than expected unless our depth kills us. We could do real well or be very disappointed. I think this year will be one that nobody can predict from week to week. I'll discuss it more in the appropriate thread.

Roll Tide.

 

[Boclive]

If the judge allows the case to go to trial, then Fulmer should have to give his deposition.

Certainly, Fulmer would prefer to avoid having to swear to anything under oath. Whether Cottrell/Williams goes to trial or not,

Kenny Smith won't get a fair hearing in the state of Tennessee.

 

[skrayper77]

I'm starting to wonder if a person can't have a dissenting opinion on an Alabama message board without automatically being assumed or called a Tennessee or Auburn fan.

 

[Crimson King]

I'm starting to wonder if a person can't have a dissenting opinion on an Alabama message board without automatically being assumed or called a Tennessee or Auburn fan.

Nice to meet you, skrayper. :biggrin:

 

[Bodhisattva]

Crimson King,

If you've been a lurker on this board you know that most here accept differing opinions and are receptive to legitimate debate. You aren't attacked as a Vol fan because you have a differing opinion. But, you most certainly look suspicious because of the resources you use to support your point of view. I suggest you re-read Surfer's posts. He is a fair moderator with well-qualified opinions.

 

[Crimson King]

Crimson King,

If you've been a lurker on this board you know that most here accept differing opinions and are receptive to legitimate debate. You aren't attacked as a Vol fan because you have a differing opinion. But, you most certainly look suspicious because of the resources you use to support your point of view. I suggest you re-read Surfer's posts. He is a fair moderator with well-qualified opinions.

I did lurk for quite some time prior to joining.

I don't rely on that one source I linked to support my opinion. I don't need that source to support my opinion - the Alabama papers support my opinion just fine. Like I've repeated already, the link was FYI. It was not an effort to support an opinion that is fully supported by various other in-state sources and requires no biased articles from Nashville.

If linking an article from outside the state of Alabama is grounds for accusations of being a fan of another school, then those of you who support that theory are either paranoid or way too involved with your conspiracy theories and unfounded speculation. It's just an article from another paper. I thought you might be interested to see it. Sorry if I made you think too hard.

 

[bayoutider]

Lose the attitude dude.

 

[Bodhisattva]

CK,

You have a derth of posts to your credit, and you come in here with insults and attitude. I offered some friendly advice earlier, and I offer it one more time because I'm a nice guy. If you are going to stay around you'd better start treating those with thousands of posts (especially the moderators) with some respect. Because, as of now, you are looking like an ignorant punk.

 

[bayoutider]

I'm not in the mood for a spitting contest today.



From anyone.

 

[Crimson King]

CK,

You have a derth of posts to your credit, and you come in here with insults and attitude. I offered some friendly advice earlier, and I offer it one more time because I'm a nice guy. If you are going to stay around you'd better start treating those with thousands of posts (especially the moderators) with some respect. Because, as of now, you are looking like an ignorant punk.

I'm neither. But thanks so much for your helpful advice.