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Recovering economy? NOT!!!

Ed,
Leave economics up to someone who deals with it on a daily basis.
The unemployment rate is always lower at this time of year. Research the past twenty tears and you will see that layoffs occur at this time of year often. Car manufacturers usually retool their factories at this time in order to get set for the new models. If you actually look at the fact that fewer unemployment claims werew filed it is amazing. You and your libs can spin the fact that job growth grew slower at this time of year than Jan but the fact is most economist did not predict that job growth would have even continued at this time of year due to the fact that the manufacturers are retooling.
Stock market has been influnced primarily due to the high oil prices, and the fact that a major oil refinery burned down. And again you fail to read the truth that incomes have risen for the third consecutive quarter so your low paying jobs bull won't fly here. I deal with the economy at my job everyday and can say for a fact that the economy is picking up after the crappy economy that was handed over to Bush from Clinton and 9/11.
 
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Ed,
Leave economics up to someone who deals with it on a daily basis.
The unemployment rate is always lower at this time of year. Research the past twenty tears and you will see that layoffs occur at this time of year often. Car manufacturers usually retool their factories at this time in order to get set for the new models. If you actually look at the fact that fewer unemployment claims werew filed it is amazing. You and your libs can spin the fact that job growth grew slower at this time of year than Jan but the fact is most economist did not predict that job growth would have even continued at this time of year due to the fact that the manufacturers are retooling.
Stock market has been influnced primarily due to the high oil prices, and the fact that a major oil refinery burned down. And again you fail to read the truth that incomes have risen for the third consecutive quarter so your low paying jobs bull won't fly here. I deal with the economy at my job everyday and can say for a fact that the economy is picking up after the crappy economy that was handed over to Bush from Clinton and 9/11.
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I have a good friend/stock broker who says the same thing. It all comes down to the oil prices. He's very optimistic, but is terrified over the prospect of Kerry being elected. He's not one of those brokers who's living from hand to mouth either, he's very successful.
 
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It does not pay to quote an article here I see. Every sentence in my post other than the one about jobs being created paying less than the jobs lost or being sent overseas was a direct quote from the article I linked, although it is a documented fact among economists. I quoted the 'experts' mamacalled. If this was just a summertime thing, I would think that there would be no need for investors to be concerned. The concern is there and there is reason for it. Surely investors have been through summer letdowns before. Major oil companies have just reported their biggest profits ever. It does not seem as if though high oil prices are hurting them. Who does that leave to be hurt other than the consumer? I agree with Kerry. If this economy has "turned the corner" as the President says, it must have been a u-turn because we are headed back to a situation whereby the economy is slowing down and government spending continues to increase.

How can you be a Conservative and agree with an administration that has spent more than any other before and has created the highest deficits America has 'ever' seen? It takes more than lip service to be a true Conservative and many on here don't seem to realize that. Fiscal Conservatism is a major factor in Conservatist theory. Where is it now? Many of you don't seem to know the meaning of Fiscal Conservatism. It does not mean spend, spend ,spend. If this was a Democrat who had engineered such a devestating blow to the Treasury with these ever increasing deficits, every 'Conservative' on here would be howling. Why not now? It appears that the only way that Conservatives here respond is to call you a Liberal. As far as I can see from the responses here on this forum, Liberal has suddenly become a Conservative terminology. Who would have thought that! I'll agree about one thing when using that term, this administration spends liberally. What does that make it? A Liberal administration?

If you want to talk about history, here is a piece that should be remembered: the economy has always performed better under Democratic Presidents. The last surplus the nation had was left by President Clinton. Before anyone says that Congress had a lot to do with that, let me ask a question that I would like for someone to answer: who was the last Republican President to leave the nation with a budget surplus when his term was over? Congress notwithstanding.
 
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Bush has torched the budget. Military expenditures are high, many useless programs are still in place, and government sanctioned "studies" are running rampant.

Reagan "slaughtered" the budget.

The net result? Massive threats have been completely removed as threats to our nation. The economy is "guarded" but moving forward, and some of those frivolous programs are under scrutiny.

Is Bush the golden boy? Will he usher in a period of utopia for us all to bask in? No.

Kerry, despite his "vaunted" experience, is a follower -- (check his senate voting records) not a leader. I prefer a leader who will make mistakes to a fawning wannabe who follows his concept of public opinion.
 
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Bush has torched the budget. Military expenditures are high, many useless programs are still in place, and government sanctioned "studies" are running rampant.

Reagan "slaughtered" the budget.

The net result? Massive threats have been completely removed as threats to our nation. The economy is "guarded" but moving forward, and some of those frivolous programs are under scrutiny.

Is Bush the golden boy? Will he usher in a period of utopia for us all to bask in? No.
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Yes. Bush has torched the budget. What massive threats have been completely removed as threats to our nation? Surely not Sadaam? The massive threat facing this nation now is from terrorism and government spending. We will have to battle both of those for a long time before we attain victory. Bush cannot claim victory on either of those fronts now can he? Are you saying that we have defeated terrorism and balanced the budget? We will have to battle terrorism for as long as we are a nation. I just hope it doesn't take just as long to balance the budget again.
 
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Hey ed, one bad month of job growth and you're ready to throw in the towel? What you also fail to mention is that the unemployment rate fell from 5.6 to 5.5% and the number of new people filing for unemployment also significantly drop.

If you look at the big picture, over 1.5 million jobs have been created since last August. I'm not going to start crying that the sky is falling yet, thanks.

And what do you want Bush to do about gas prices? OPEC has already said that they are at or near capacity for producing oil. The problem is that demand is higher now as many third world countries like China require more oil. Unfortunately, America has developed a NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) approach to energy production and is very dependent on foreign oil supplies.
 
Ed, seem that you have short term memorry. Do you forget the Carter years vs the Reagen years? Do you forget the stock market crash that Clinton left us with? Do you forget 9/11 and not realize that the economic woes were already in place when Bush took office and the terrorist attacks spurred that on? Given the circumstances, I would say that Bush has done a very good job with the economic turn a round.
And if you are so concerned with spending then you definitely would not support Kerr because he has on his agenda the largest government program in history. Yes, his health care plan, if passed will exceed on trillion dollars. Does that sound like fiscal responsibility? Heck No!
And no, I do not agree with all the spending that Bush has done but trust me, if Kerry gets elected the spending under Bush will be pale in contrast. Those are truths.
 
It sounds from your comments mamacalled as if you have chosen the lesser of two evils. Time will tell which evil was worst. No evil is better. The lesser of two evils has always been a matter of opinion. Time will tell.
 
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