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Sankey: SEC, Big Ten have 'different view' of CFP

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says his league and the Big Ten have a "different view" on the College Football Playoff format, which could lead to the possibility that it remains a 12-team format in 2026.

"The Big Ten has a different view," Sankey said following his opening remarks on the first day of SEC media days at the College Football Hall of Fame. "That's fine. We have a 12-team playoff, five conference champions. That can stay if we can't agree."
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Tidewater

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I'm certainly fine with a 12-team playoff, I'd be okay with a 5+11 format as well.
What I get a little nervous about is guaranteeing the SEC and the Big four playoff teams. I mean, what if the #4 team in the Big (or SEC) is not really that good a team?
I believe the SEC standings last year were UTw, UGA, UTe, Ole Miss, Alabama. And that Alabama team was not a very good team. Ole Miss at 10-3 was pretty good, but not great.

I am not a big fan of automatic anything. If I were Planetary Commander, I would rank college football teams 1-25 and #1-12 get into the playoff, and #1-4 would get a first week bye. I would take conference championships into account but they would not get automatic byes. If a 9-3 team manages to beat a 12-O team for a conference championship, that doesn't mean they get a first week bye. It just means there are now a 10-3 team that won against a good opponent late in the season.
 

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I hate the 12-team playoff. Football is too physical a sport to make lower-seeded teams have to win an additional game to get to the championship game. Eliminate conference championship games and scale the playoff back to 8 games. I know that with the NIL garbage these guys are considered semi-pro teams, but that doesn't change the fact that for a solid majority of them, they are still student athletes.
 

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I'm for a 12 team playoff. 1-12.
First 4 get first week bye.
If teams don't make the playoffs (TOUGH)
There's always next year.
FORGET ABOUT CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES.
 

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I will die on the 6 team playoff hill. Top two teams get byes. No automatic qualifiers. No independents and every league has to have a conf champ game. Every league plays 9 reg season conf games and no one is allowed to play div 2 or whatever they’re called now teams. If we are playing players and coaches millions and it costs an arm and a leg to go lets at least provide a worthwhile product.
 

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I hate the 12-team playoff. Football is too physical a sport to make lower-seeded teams have to win an additional game to get to the championship game.
Ohio State just won a national championship after having no damn business being considered for any postseason ever until last year.

I hate it, too.

A four-team playoff had one perfection: you weren't going to get left out if you went undefeated.
 

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Ohio State just won a national championship after having no damn business being considered for any postseason ever until last year.

I hate it, too.

A four-team playoff had one perfection: you weren't going to get left out if you went undefeated.
Last year kind of upended my arguments.

I think 4 teams was close to perfect too.

Maybe 6 teams

But beyond that I never would have argued a team outside of that was the best team or deserved a shot.

Then tOSU as a 8 or 9 seed or whatever they were ended up playing the best and looking darn near unstoppable winning 4 straight playoff games.

In the old CFB world where free agency didn’t exist there is no way a team outside of the Top 4 was that much better than everyone.

But in this CFB who knows.

There is so little continuity within teams because of roster turnover it’s probably going to more times than not end up being the ‘Hot’ team at the end that wins instead of who was actually consistently the best team all season.
 
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Last year kind of upended my arguments.

I think 4 teams was close to perfect too.

Maybe 6 teams

But beyond that I never would have argued a team outside of that was the best team or deserved a shot.

Then tOSU as a 8 or 9 seed or whatever they were ended up playing the best and looking darn near unstoppable winning 4 straight playoff games.

In the old CFB world where free agency didn’t exist there is no way a team outside of the Top 4 was that much better than everyone.

But in this CFB who knows.

There is so little continuity within teams because of roster turnover it’s probably going to more times than not end up being the ‘Hot’ team at the end that wins instead of who was actually consistently the best team all season.
The 12 team playoff is tailor made for teams like 2017 Auburn, 2019 and 2022 Bama, 2023 UGA, etc.
Each of those teams could have won the title. The 4 team format forced teams to be perfect, and it was so much better IMO.
 

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Ohio State just won a national championship after having no damn business being considered for any postseason ever until last year.

I hate it, too.

A four-team playoff had one perfection: you weren't going to get left out if you went undefeated.
Note: l apparently did a clip and erase or something because l had a joke and meme on here about FSU. Oh well…..damn old guy bladder. Anyway.
 

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Last year kind of upended my arguments.

I think 4 teams was close to perfect too.

Maybe 6 teams

But beyond that I never would have argued a team outside of that was the best team or deserved a shot.

Then tOSU as a 8 or 9 seed or whatever they were ended up playing the best and looking darn near unstoppable winning 4 straight playoff games.

In the old CFB world where free agency didn’t exist there is no way a team outside of the Top 4 was that much better than everyone.

But in this CFB who knows.

There is so little continuity within teams because of roster turnover it’s probably going to more times than not end up being the ‘Hot’ team at the end that wins instead of who was actually consistently the best team all season.
Which is why you won’t see me in very many game threads because what incentive do I now have to watch anything before the playoff games?

I quit watching the NFL years ago and watch pretty much nothing but the playoffs sometimes. Two years ago, the only entire game I saw in the season was the Super Bowl.

Once upon a time, I had every reason in the world to watch Auburn play Tennessee if the game meant something, even though I would love to shoot both of those teams out of a cannon. Without the BCS, I don’t give a damn who wins the Iowa Iowa State versus Oklahoma State game or Boise State versus TCU either. But I watched both of those games and retain great memories from them.

Who even cares now?

I only learned several weeks ago that we play Florida State this year. That’s how out of interest I am in the whole damn thing.

Ohio State, yes was playing the best ball in the playoffs, but the fact is they had no business being there. What did Oregon gain by beating Ohio State and getting a bye? Nothing, they got a tougher route, including the extra game against Penn State for the Big Ten championship.

This reminds me of all those years when Florida State would be talented after the ball games as was playing the best ball at the end of the season, but they were only playing the best ball when all of the pressure was off, and they were already eliminated from the title Hunt.

It means to be seen how many Alabama games I will watch this fall, but rest assured I will probably never set foot in Bryant Denny Stadium ever again. I have zero incentive.
 
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Who gets the byes in a year like 2004? 2009?
And why?
The 6 team is only for the one or two years a decade there are 5 or 6 great teams. Most of the time 4 is exactly what you want/need but there are years where a deserving 5 team can get screwed over IMO. So to be fair and nice I think it should always be 6. As far as the two byes I’d be ok with using the bcs computers for those spots every year. They can complain about who got the byes but if it’s by computer it is what it is. Basically 6 is the most I’m comfortable with and there won’t be a year where a deserving team gets left out. You’d be the guy to ask about this point I’m about to make but to my eyes there has never been a #7 team who should’ve ever even sniffed a championship game and that’s why I hate the 12 team. They keep trying to turn cfb into college basketball and it sucks
 
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The 6 team is only for the one or two years a decade there are 5 or 6 great teams. Most of the time 4 is exactly what you want/need but there are years where a deserving 5 team can get screwed over IMO. So to be fair and nice I think it should always be 6. As far as the two byes I’d be ok with using the bcs computers for those spots every year. They can complain about who got the byes but if it’s by computer it is what it is. Basically 6 is the most I’m comfortable with and there won’t be a year where a deserving team gets left out. You’d be the guy to ask about this point I’m about to make but to my eyes there has never been a #7 team who should’ve ever even sniffed a championship game and that’s why I hate the 12 team. They keep trying to turn cfb into college basketball and it sucks
The portal, I guess, makes this possible, but it's still stupid.

If we look over the great landscape of college football, I can only think of a couple of times when one might reasonably argue that a team ranked outside of the top 3-4 was the best team in the country. But we accepted the fact those teams LOST, which basically made (almost) every game a playoff. And a lot of those circumstances were eliminated by:
a) the consolidation of the SWC into the Big 12 (which meant more losses and fewer 0 and 1-loss teams
b) the scramble for the independents sans Notre Dame to join conferences (mostly the ACC)

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Consider, for example, 1990.

By the end of the season, there was a general feeling based on nothing more than hunch that "Miami is the best team in the country." But Miami had lost to the same BYU team that gave up 59 points to Hawaii and then 65 to aTm in BACK-TO-BACK contests. Sure, BYU beating Miami was probably a fluke - but the fact is that BYU had over 400 yards of total offense against what some thought was the country's best defense, beat them in every meaningful stat and won the game despite turning the ball over FIVE times (and getting only 3 back). They then lost to Notre Dame, 29-20, in South Bend.

Where did this idea of "Miami is the best team in the country" REALLY come from?
1) they blew out an overrated one-loss Texas team in the bowl game, 46-3
2) they were living off the reputation of 3 national titles (and 3 near misses) in the previous 7 years
3) since Miami would beat BYU if they played again, it "didn't count"
4) idiots who write about college football are impressed with offensive powerhouses and always ignore teams whose stronger unit is the defense
5) since Miami had statistically beaten Notre Dame (15 of their 29 points were on FGs and one TD was a 94-yard kickoff return by Rocket Ismail), that loss ALSO didn't count

What's funny is how the way the pundits spun it, Colorado's Fifth Down win was "really" a loss while Miami's two losses were "really" wins.

With all of the consolidated conferences, we don't need anything more than the Top Four. Hell, I think Georgia probably should have been in the Top Four in 2023 over Texas, but how in the world can you really do that when Texas did beat Alabama and Alabama did beat UGA? They probably should have been in over Washington, too, but how do you do that?
 

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I'd prefer to stay at 12, than move to one of the other models they've discussed.This would be the only model that keeps automatic bids to a minimum.
 

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