So does the death of Star Wars start with Solo?
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that is exactly what I thought too, then I watched the half in the bag red letter media review and they had the same complaint
More bad news. 65% 2nd weekend drop.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/movieweb.com/amp/solo-a-star-wars-story-box-office-weekend-2/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/movieweb.com/amp/solo-a-star-wars-story-box-office-weekend-2/
I think the studios have overplayed the popularity of the franchise. If you have one film every other year, then the the dedicated fans might go at predictable levels. The Force Awakens, Rogue One, The Last Jedi all coming hard upon the heals of the previous movie may have flooded the market. Add a lackluster film and you have a recipe for a big money loser.
I'll catch this one on a trans-Atlantic flight next year.
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I'll wait for the DVD release (estimated to be September this year). Just got The Last Jedi the other day - haven't watched it yet. Patience is a virtue....
Solo failing has nothing to do with general 'Franchise Fatigue'. Marvel is about to release it 20th entry in the MCU in 10 years next month. The majority of people love those films and keep showing up.
Star Wars is a larger and more popular film franchise than the MCU. This whole backlash isn't even about Solo itself. It's about a large portion (30-40%) of the fanbase being extremely angry and frustrated with the way Kathleen Kennedy has quickly taken the series in a wrong direction by completely misunderstanding the entire appeal, tone, mythos/lore, and themes.
It's backlash against the HORRIBLE 'film' The Last Jedi and backlash against Rian Johnson getting his weasly little hands on any other Star Wars project much less a Trilogy of his own to interject his subversive perverted nihilism.
Kennedy is not making the films fans want to see..... she's injecting her own personal SJW Identity/Gender Politics into it to make it something SHE can identify with when the whole thing was already organically diverse and rich to begin with. The politics are so hamfisted and clumsily shoved in it takes you completely out of the experience.
George Lucas subtly wove history, mythical archetypes, and current events into Star Wars to make it just relatable enough yet still....in a Galaxy Far Away.
Now, A Galaxy Far away could never be closer because Kennedy is on the nose mirroring current sociopolitical events to uncomfortable levels when most people go to the movies for an ESCAPE from troubling realities.
She has torn down almost every Legacy character at the expense of an agenda and pushed other characters to the forefront without them being fully realized and developed. Raise your hand if you wanted to see Han REGRESS to being an Absentee Father and Husband....or if you wanted to see Luke REGRESS to being a murderous cowardly hermit who lives in fear devoid of any of the optimism woven within who he is as a character.
She teases Diversity but it's Diversity not done well with one-note characters with poor to absent arcs. I want to Love Finn but he's treated as a comedy relief joke. Even when he almost has a moment to shine it's undercut by another characters actions. How can I take him serious? Poe is an unbelievably stupid hot-head. Kylo is a temper tantrum throwing teenager who is anything but intimidating. Rey is grossly overpowered without having to earn any of her progress and pretty much makes no mistakes of consequence to learn because apparently she doesn't need to learn.
The whole thing is a hot mess of absolute garbage. It's a Trilogy with no connections of plot points or themes because each Director wrote the stories in an isolated vacuum instead of storyboarding the whole thing out into Three Competent Acts that complement each other as opposed to undercutting each other.
Long story short: It's not Star Wars franchise fatigue.... it's Mediocre/Poor Politically Driven Star Wars Film Fatigue.
Interesting that your story changed from George Lucas not pushing politics in his films to now spinning it so that you can still be angry about the new films while ignoring the politics of George Lucas. Bravo, sir.
I haven't changed my story because Lucas still didn't PUSH any certain political agenda that was so palpable that you couldn't get away from it if you so chose to do so. I don't know what Lucas's personal politics are and I don't care.
If he interjected any into the Original films he was subtle with it and talented enough to touch on subjects in an organic way that didn't distract from the storytelling. Nothing about Star Wars really even felt 'political' until the Prequels introduced the Republic and the Senate.
Just what exactly are you trying to call me out on here? Just get on with it....PM me if you feel the need to keep trying to needle.
I had a post earlier in the thread about the politics Lucas put into the original trilogy when you stated that you loved them because they didn't push politics in your face (when some of it is brazenly in your face). I don't feel politics rammed into my face in the new films or the original films because sci-fi has almost always drawn parallels to the real world. I just think that some of the people like yourself are going out of your way to look for it and get offended whereas you didn't when you were younger because you didn't know to look for it and you also didn't have echo chambers and conservative news sites/radio/tv channels telling you how offensive it was and that you should be outraged because of those awful sjw's.
If you want to let politics ruin your enjoyment of everything fun that's not really a new thing and there are a lot of angry people right there with you but at least stop pretending that the stuff you're nostalgic for and pining over the good old days for wasn't exactly the same way. Politics has been a part of Star Wars since day 1, it hasn't changed. Your perception has. Not trying to needle you, just trying to help you see it for what it is.
In addition, you had a lot of negative press throughout production, everything from the original director being fired and that the lead just wasn't a good actor. Being released so closely on the heels of Infinity War couldn't have helped either.
I can't really speak to the marketing campaign, as I hardly watch network TV anymore.
I watched Solo last night and really enjoyed it. So far, the two Star Wars story movies have been much better than the first two trilogy movies.
I watched Solo this afternoon. It was fun. The Solo character was well-cast. I'm not an aficionado but I did not seen any canonical train-wrecks. I do not see what all the hate is based on.
You guys see this? I bet it's killer in 3d!
Find out why Jabba the Hut placed a bounty on Han Solo's head in this award-winning film by the June 2010 graduating class at the DAVE School. This is the winner of "Best Animation" from the Star Wars Fan Film Movie Challenge, sponsored by Lucasfilm. It was shown at Celebration V in Orlando Florida in circular polarized 3D. Here it is in 2D
Find out why Jabba the Hut placed a bounty on Han Solo's head in this award-winning film by the June 2010 graduating class at the DAVE School. This is the winner of "Best Animation" from the Star Wars Fan Film Movie Challenge, sponsored by Lucasfilm. It was shown at Celebration V in Orlando Florida in circular polarized 3D. Here it is in 2D
looks like the answer to the question this thread initially asked is yes. At least for the spin offs
http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/there-will-be-no-more-star-wars-spin-offs-for-now.html
shame too as I was looking forward to what James Mangold (who made one of the best comic book movies ever, Logan) could with Boba Fett
http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/there-will-be-no-more-star-wars-spin-offs-for-now.html
shame too as I was looking forward to what James Mangold (who made one of the best comic book movies ever, Logan) could with Boba Fett
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