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Not sure what existing thread to fit this into. It seems like it's own subject. And I expect we will hear more in coming weeks.

“The Largest Funder of Al-Shabaab Is the Minnesota Taxpayer”

"Much like with the HSS program, autism claims to Medicaid in Minnesota have skyrocketed in recent years—from $3 million in 2018 to $54 million in 2019, $77 million in 2020, $183 million 2021, $279 million in 2022, and $399 million in 2023. Meantime, the number of autism providers in the state spiked from 41 to 328 over the same period, with many in the Somali community establishing their own autism treatment centers, citing the need for “culturally appropriate programming.” By the time the fraud scheme was exposed, one in 16 Somali four-year-olds in the state had reportedly been diagnosed with autism—a rate more than triple the state average."

That is a 13,300% increase in autism claims in five years. Probably worth looking into.
 
Not just Autism Treatment Centers TW.....check out this report on the Assisted Living Center fraud and the graph at the 2:47 mark......


I was going to start a "Say something good about Minnesota" and start off with my admiration for Joe Kapp when I was in high school (and pro football was a different beast, BTW - a subject for another time perhaps) but this will work......:)

And now there are reports of massive fraud in the state of Maine as well.......
 
Not sure what existing thread to fit this into. It seems like it's own subject. And I expect we will hear more in coming weeks.

“The Largest Funder of Al-Shabaab Is the Minnesota Taxpayer”

"Much like with the HSS program, autism claims to Medicaid in Minnesota have skyrocketed in recent years—from $3 million in 2018 to $54 million in 2019, $77 million in 2020, $183 million 2021, $279 million in 2022, and $399 million in 2023. Meantime, the number of autism providers in the state spiked from 41 to 328 over the same period, with many in the Somali community establishing their own autism treatment centers, citing the need for “culturally appropriate programming.” By the time the fraud scheme was exposed, one in 16 Somali four-year-olds in the state had reportedly been diagnosed with autism—a rate more than triple the state average."

That is a 13,300% increase in autism claims in five years. Probably worth looking into.

You know, the case may be solid here but this article loses me right out of the chute:

Minnesota is drowning in fraud. Billions in taxpayer dollars have been stolen during the administration of Governor Tim Walz alone. Democratic state officials, overseeing one of the most generous welfare regimes in the country, are asleep at the switch. And the media, duty-bound by progressive pieties, refuse to connect the dots.

This level of shameless partisan rhetoric would lose anyone who isn't a Trump boot licker. Every single thing said MIGHT be true but 99.9% of the time "connect the dots" means, "This is my conspiracy theory to come to the conclusion I was going to arrive at anyway." And just to be clear, this is not directed at you personally, TW.

However, let's see:

1) If this article is actually interested in the TRUTH and not "whoo boy, we can cause a ruckus", why did they not bother to mention the 2022 FBI series of raids that netted 70 indictments? Is it because in 2022, the FBI was supposedly a reckless agent of lawfare against God's Second Son of Mary Mild, Donald Trump? Is it because it shows the BIDEN administration on the job?

2) There were discussions of this DURING THE CAMPAIGN. As governor, it is absolutely fair game to point out Walz may bear some responsibility and he probably does. Let's face it, a Democrat scrutinizing a group of brown people who form a chunk of his voters might lead to something catastrophic like, you know, Walz losing an election or the Democrats losing power. And a liberal fears nothing more than the finger-pointing of "that's racist" coming back on them with the three fingers pointing back while the accusation is made.

3) "Fraud" is another single syllable word that doesn't exactly tax the intellect of the Medal of Honor winner at the Battle of Kitty Grabber Ridge (or Purple Heart recipient at the Bowling Green Massacre if you prefer). It's a charge he's fond of making and a crime he's fond of committing, too.

Bury the fraudsters under the jail.
If Walz knew and sat on it, bury him, too.

But Republicans pretending like they've discovered something that already existed while typical of this regime ought to be mocked with the same level of ridicule as Don Coyote's obsessing with hiding from windmills, too.
 
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You know, the case may be solid here but this article loses me right out of the chute:

Minnesota is drowning in fraud. Billions in taxpayer dollars have been stolen during the administration of Governor Tim Walz alone. Democratic state officials, overseeing one of the most generous welfare regimes in the country, are asleep at the switch. And the media, duty-bound by progressive pieties, refuse to connect the dots.

This level of shameless partisan rhetoric would lose anyone who isn't a Trump boot licker. Every single thing said MIGHT be true but 99.9% of the time "connect the dots" means, "This is my conspiracy theory to come to the conclusion I was going to arrive at anyway." And just to be clear, this is not directed at you personally, TW.

However, let's see:

1) If this article is actually interested in the TRUTH and not "whoo boy, we can cause a ruckus", why did they not bother to mention the 2022 FBI series of raids that netted 70 indictments? Is it because in 2022, the FBI was supposedly a reckless agent of lawfare against God's Second Son of Mary Mild, Donald Trump? Is it because it shows the BIDEN administration on the job?

2) There were discussions of this DURING THE CAMPAIGN. As governor, it is absolutely fair game to point out Walz may bear some responsibility and he probably does. Let's face it, a Democrat scrutinizing a group of brown people who form a chunk of his voters might lead to something catastrophic like, you know, Walz losing an election or the Democrats losing power. And a liberal fears nothing more than the finger-pointing of "that's racist" coming back on them with the three fingers pointing back while the accusation is made.

3) "Fraud" is another single syllable word that doesn't exactly tax the intellect of the Medal of Honor winner at the Battle of Kitty Grabber Ridge (or Purple Heart recipient at the Bowling Green Massacre if you prefer). It's a charge he's fond of making and a crime he's fond of committing, too.

Bury the fraudsters under the jail.
If Walz knew and sat on it, bury him, too.

But Republicans pretending like they've discovered something that already existed while typical of this regime ought to be mocked with the same level of ridicule as Don Coyote's obsessing with hiding from windmills, too.
An absolutely partisan source, granted.
I was only pointing out the bit about the incredible expansion of autism payments from 2017. Those strike me as objective (and verifiable) facts. Ignore the partisan screed and focus on the data.
Have Minnesota autism payments grown from $3 million in 2017 to $399 million in 2023? If so, why? Which doctors are certifying these kids as autistic? Can the public check their work? Who are the recipients of these payments (not names/addresses, but general demographic data)?
 
An absolutely partisan source, granted.
I was only pointing out the bit about the incredible expansion of autism payments from 2017. Those strike me as objective (and verifiable) facts. Ignore the partisan screed and focus on the data.
Have Minnesota autism payments grown from $3 million in 2017 to $399 million in 2023? If so, why? Which doctors are certifying these kids as autistic? Can the public check their work? Who are the recipients of these payments (not names/addresses, but general demographic data)?

Yeah, but the issue isn’t because it is a partisan source; I have no with any source as long as it tells the facts.

And not just the convenient ones that support a narrative, with right or left.

Trump folks are acting like he just pulled the lid off something nobody knew about, and the FBI knew about this three years ago. Correction, they knew about it five years ago, but they acted on it three years ago.
 
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I'm asking for a friend, but when are we going to see the same level of care, concern, and investigation into the grifting going on in and around the White House?

This is beyond embarrassing, and nobody with a lever of power seems to remotely care.




 
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I'm asking for a friend, but when are we going to see the same level of care, concern, and investigation into the grifting going on in and around the White House?

This is beyond embarrassing, and nobody with a lever of power seems to remotely care.




never is the correct answer to your question
 
I'm asking for a friend, but when are we going to see the same level of care, concern, and investigation into the grifting going on in and around the White House?

This is beyond embarrassing, and nobody with a lever of power seems to remotely care.




Two things can be true at once. Fraud in programs like federal day-care payments and Medicare autism payments is bad and Trump has made a bunch of money from being in office. Two wrongs do not make a right.
 
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Two things can be true at once. Fraud in programs like federal day-care payments and Medicare autism payments is bad and Trump has made a bunch of money from being in office. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Nobody is defending the fraud in Minnesota, but the right wing news sources are all over themselves proclaiming they found something that was already well under investigation with 70 indictments. No doubt there's more, and of course we should be concerned looking for more fraud. I applaud anyone calling out fraud, even if it's a marginal iphone video influencer begging for clicks.

However, at the very same time, the SAME PEOPLE who are screaming about Minnesota an engaged in an unimaginable amount of grift, likely using this as yet another distractionary tactic. As usual, SMH.

I don't like What-about-isms, except when it's the job of a person/agency and they are looking one direction only to ignore their job when it's not politically expedient.

 
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz ended his reelection campaign Monday amid scrutiny over allegations of social aid fraud at day care centers in the state. Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty joins "NewsNation Live" to discuss his reaction to Walz ending his campaign.

Shocking!
I heard this about an hour ago. You know you've hit an all-time low when even the weirdo voters from MN won't vote for you. It's actually pretty impressive when you think about it.
 
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I heard this about an hour ago. You know you've hit an all-time low when even the weirdo voters from MN won't vote for you. It's actually pretty impressive when you think about it.

They will just elect a Somali. Look at me, I'm the governor now!

The chickens came home to roost in this one.........
 
It's starting to look like the US federal government was complicit in the Somali welfare/Covid relief fund scam/daycare fraud scheme. This isn't simply just Somalis "outsmarting" the system on their own.

One of the pieces of evidence for this is that the TSA (Transportation Security Administration, a federal agency) allegedly knew about the money being flown out of Minneapolis but did nothing to stop it.

Somali couriers DECLARED this money to the TSA. About a million US dollars was (allegedly) flown out of Minneapolis airport EVERY DAY and the TSA did not stop it. Somalis surely enjoyed a cut of this money along the way but most likely there is another party along the way, that took the vast majority of those million going through the Minneapolis airport.


There is absolutely no way the Somalians figured all this out on their own.
 
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It's starting to look like the US federal government was complicit in the Somali welfare/Covid relief fund scam/daycare fraud scheme. This isn't simply just Somalis "outsmarting" the system on their own.

One of the pieces of evidence for this is that the TSA (Transportation Security Administration, a federal agency) allegedly knew about the money being flown out of Minneapolis but did nothing to stop it.

Somali couriers DECLARED this money to the TSA. About a million US dollars was (allegedly) flown out of Minneapolis airport EVERY DAY and the TSA did not stop it. Somalis surely enjoyed a cut of this money along the way but most likely there is another party along the way, that took the vast majority of those million going through the Minneapolis airport.


There is absolutely no way the Somalians figured all this out on their own.

The apparent scale of the fraud had me wondering. Government programs are set up to be scammed. I've seen plenty of dubious spending. Usually it works because that's the way it's supposed to work. And no one cares. But, the size of this fraud ... there almost has to be government officials involved. I'm aware of plenty of contracts getting written for the benefit of friends with kickbacks involved. But, this is apparently next level. I almost typed "this is fraud on an industrial scale," but fraud on a governmental scale is many degrees more disgusting.

But, hey, big government is awesome! Let's have more of it!
 
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