Tennessee coach / players refer to Alabama as 'the red team'

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LOL at Draco Malfoy. :biggrin2: Not saying you all are evil or anything like that, but to the CFB world, you are the entrenched power, the evil Voldemort in the dark castle that all the rest of our teams want a crack at.
If teams just want to beat Alabama, they are missing the point. It isn't about beating Alabama - it is about winning a championship. If Alabama falters and you beat someone else in the BCSCG, will the championship be reduced in any way?

That is really what this thread is about. As CA said earlier in this thread - Alabama is living rent free in the minds of players and coaches all over America. But winning a championship isn't about beating Alabama - it is about playing the game at a high level - knowing your job on every play and out-executing the guy across from you for 60 minutes. It is about trusting your team mates to do their jobs so you can focus on your own. It is about what you do - not what they do. Who the "they" is in each game should not matter if you are playing to a standard and focused on your job.

If the focus is on them instead of you, you have already given them an edge before the game is played. And the longer the layoff between games, the greater that edge becomes.
 

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If teams just want to beat Alabama, they are missing the point. It isn't about beating Alabama - it is about winning a championship. If Alabama falters and you beat someone else in the BCSCG, will the championship be reduced in any way?

That is really what this thread is about. As CA said earlier in this thread - Alabama is living rent free in the minds of players and coaches all over America. But winning a championship isn't about beating Alabama - it is about playing the game at a high level - knowing your job on every play and out-executing the guy across from you for 60 minutes. It is about trusting your team mates to do their jobs so you can focus on your own. It is about what you do - not what they do. Who the "they" is in each game should not matter if you are playing to a standard and focused on your job.

If the focus is on them instead of you, you have already given them an edge before the game is played. And the longer the layoff between games, the greater that edge becomes.
Great response, this is exactly why Oregon & others just don't get it. Mosley knows more about getting ready for an opponent than most coaches, but look at who is his teacher.
 

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If teams just want to beat Alabama, they are missing the point. It isn't about beating Alabama - it is about winning a championship. If Alabama falters and you beat someone else in the BCSCG, will the championship be reduced in any way?

That is really what this thread is about. As CA said earlier in this thread - Alabama is living rent free in the minds of players and coaches all over America. But winning a championship isn't about beating Alabama - it is about playing the game at a high level - knowing your job on every play and out-executing the guy across from you for 60 minutes. It is about trusting your team mates to do their jobs so you can focus on your own. It is about what you do - not what they do. Who the "they" is in each game should not matter if you are playing to a standard and focused on your job.

If the focus is on them instead of you, you have already given them an edge before the game is played. And the longer the layoff between games, the greater that edge becomes.
I understand your point. The Voldemort stuff was just some lighthearted joking. However Alabama has been the dominant program for 3 out of the last 4 years and in the minds of many fans (and probably some players and coaches too), the idea of facing Alabama and trying to beat them has become so entwined with the idea of winning a championship that the two are now nearly inseparable. Any team that wants to play the best to win the championship knows that the best is currently Alabama. If they were a team that just won a single championship and then remained on the periphery it would be different. But two in the row? That really puts them on a pedestal and makes them a very intense point of focus. Personally I would not be convinced that Oregon is the best if Oregon can't defeat Alabama. No other team will prove it to me one way or the other. Only standing up to the measuring stick that Alabama has created will suffice for this fan.
 
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Personally I would not be convinced that Oregon is the best if Oregon can't defeat Alabama. No other team will prove it to me one way or the other. Only standing up to the measuring stick that Alabama has created will suffice for this fan.
Now you've got it surrounded. To be the 'Man', you have to beat the 'Man'. Good luck to UO the rest of the season (unless, of course, Bama becomes part of your season:smile:).

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Personally I would not be convinced that Oregon is the best if Oregon can't defeat Alabama. No other team will prove it to me one way or the other. Only standing up to the measuring stick that Alabama has created will suffice for this fan.
It is your right to think so, but I couldn't disagree more. If someone else beats Alabama and knocks them out, the team that wins the BCSCG will be no less a champion for it, whether they faced Alabama or not. Beating Alabama is not the goal - winning the championship is the goal. That means beating whomever is next on your schedule until the last game is played.

If Oregon beats Florida State in the BCSCG, will you be less than 100% satisfied with your season? Will you still worry that Alabama might be better than Oregon? Will the fact that you never got to measure yourself against Alabama haunt you? I doubt it.

You will pound your chest and proclaim loudly to all that will listen that Oregon is the champion - as will be your right.
 

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If they get lucky and win, they will absolutely not tell anyone they beat "the red team", the whole world would hear how the viles beat ALABAMA. I try not to harbour any true hatred in my heart but it is really tough this time of year. The main thing that really gets me is how UT fans can change gears so quickly. I enjoy a Tennessee meltdown so I spend some time on volnation.com. The same fans that were ready to can Coach Jones in the first half of the UGA game are the same ones that think the viles should actually be favored against Alabama and that Butch is the second coming of Phat Fil. I get the excitement of a big come from behind win against USCe once Shaw was out, and the moral victory of "almost" beating half a Georgia team, but none of them seem to remember the drumming they took at the hands of Oregon or holding on to beat South Alabama by a touchdown or the demoralizing Florida game (face it guys the Gators are awful). Hopefully reality will set in early Saturday and we won't have to listen to them pound their chests any longer.
 

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Two of my favorite things, Harry Potter and football in one thread??? :D As for the he-who-must-not-be-named, I agree with what everyone pretty much spelled out. If the vols are actually admitting they can't call the team "Alabama" then it's gotten to them...

What Oregon and a lot of teams are starting to do, the whole "faceless opponent" concept, is different in that you don't overhype any teams, but you don't overlook them either (at least that's the goal). Every game is a big game, any team can beat any other team on any given day, etc. etc. Maybe that's what Butch Jones is trying to do, however by going as far as to call you guys "the red team" that's practically admitting the name alone practically causes them to tremble in their shoes.

As a fan I admit I want Oregon to face Alabama, but I have to think what the "Team" wants is to play - and win - the National Championship, regardless of opponent. Right now it's Bama that has won 2 in a row and is the team to beat at least to fans. Alabama has set the standard in recent years. But I would argue that if Oregon wins out (and that's a big if!) - and doesn't face Alabama in the championship, that means Bama would have had to lose a game along the way. If Alabama loses this year...then they're not among the 2 best teams. Now, that has yet to happen. And I don't think FSU is better than Bama at this point. I don't see Bama losing to the remainder of its opponents. However, if we win out I want to face whoever the best team is. I'm expecting that's Alabama, but if it's FSU or somebody else? Then it's somebody else. (Yeah I know, us Oregon fans spammin' up your board...of course we respect Alabama fully, but naturally we're still going to support our team. Deal with it :p)

Here's hoping to another exciting week of college football! Will be interesting to see what Alabama does against Tennessee...and if Tennessee is really improved, or if that win last week was a fluke.
 

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. (Yeah I know, us Oregon fans spammin' up your board...of course we respect Alabama fully, but naturally we're still going to support our team. Deal with it :p)

Here's hoping to another exciting week of college football! Will be interesting to see what Alabama does against Tennessee...and if Tennessee is really improved, or if that win last week was a fluke.
No, you "Deal with it"! You're chasing Bama right now. Should Bama lose somewhere down the line, yes, we shall deal with it. Been there, done that. Plus, you have to remember, Bama could still lose one, and still be in the BCSCG. As could FSU, Oregon, any number of teams. It will all shake out in the end. Good luck to your squad until, and if, you get to play Bama.


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No, you "Deal with it"! You're chasing Bama right now. Should Bama lose somewhere down the line, yes, we shall deal with it. Been there, done that. Plus, you have to remember, Bama could still lose one, and still be in the BCSCG. As could FSU, Oregon, any number of teams. It will all shake out in the end. Good luck to your squad until, and if, you get to play Bama.


Roll Tide, Roll...A'ight!
I agree! The "deal with it" was just a little lighthearted banter, no disrespect intended! And deal with it I will - do I have a choice? :p What I mean is, as a Duck fan of course I selfishly want Oregon to get to the NCG and actually win. By no means are we guaranteed anything. I mentioned in the post earlier that Oregon could lose, and you're right that anyone could.

Every team and fan base wants to win...and in the end, there will be only one. We shall see who that one is soon enough.
 

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Two of my favorite things, Harry Potter and football in one thread??? :D As for the he-who-must-not-be-named, I agree with what everyone pretty much spelled out. If the vols are actually admitting they can't call the team "Alabama" then it's gotten to them...

What Oregon and a lot of teams are starting to do, the whole "faceless opponent" concept, is different in that you don't overhype any teams, but you don't overlook them either (at least that's the goal). Every game is a big game, any team can beat any other team on any given day, etc. etc. Maybe that's what Butch Jones is trying to do, however by going as far as to call you guys "the red team" that's practically admitting the name alone practically causes them to tremble in their shoes.

As a fan I admit I want Oregon to face Alabama, but I have to think what the "Team" wants is to play - and win - the National Championship, regardless of opponent. Right now it's Bama that has won 2 in a row and is the team to beat at least to fans. Alabama has set the standard in recent years. But I would argue that if Oregon wins out (and that's a big if!) - and doesn't face Alabama in the championship, that means Bama would have had to lose a game along the way. If Alabama loses this year...then they're not among the 2 best teams. Now, that has yet to happen. And I don't think FSU is better than Bama at this point. I don't see Bama losing to the remainder of its opponents. However, if we win out I want to face whoever the best team is. I'm expecting that's Alabama, but if it's FSU or somebody else? Then it's somebody else. (Yeah I know, us Oregon fans spammin' up your board...of course we respect Alabama fully, but naturally we're still going to support our team. Deal with it :p)

Here's hoping to another exciting week of college football! Will be interesting to see what Alabama does against Tennessee...and if Tennessee is really improved, or if that win last week was a fluke.
I don't think there is any question that Tennessee has improved as a team during the last few weeks regardless of what happens tomorrow afternoon.
 

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I agree! The "deal with it" was just a little lighthearted banter, no disrespect intended! And deal with it I will - do I have a choice? :p What I mean is, as a Duck fan of course I selfishly want Oregon to get to the NCG and actually win. By no means are we guaranteed anything. I mentioned in the post earlier that Oregon could lose, and you're right that anyone could.

Every team and fan base wants to win...and in the end, there will be only one. We shall see who that one is soon enough.
No hard feelings on my part. UO certainly has a team that can compete with anyone in the country. I'm just enjoying the ride on top of the world. CNS has made me a believer, and although I know that if the ball takes a strange bounce, or a few official calls go against Bama, a game could wind up a loss. If that is to be the case, so be it. But Coach Saban is a genius. And he's Bama's genius. And he has had a number of years assembling some really great athletes. So, until someone just ups and actually beats Bama, I'm hanging with my ride. And a fine ride it tis:cool2:.

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"I never really say anything about the other team, but I kinda took this personal," McCarron said. "I felt disrespected. To say we don't deserve the respect of calling us Alabama and calling us 'red team' and for their head coach to come out and say they can play against anybody."

"I don't think we're just anybody. We won two national championships in a row and we're undefeated right now. So we're not just anybody."
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2013/10/aj_mccarron_offended_by_tennes.html
 

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I want to give TN credit - I really thought that they would fold if you got up on them early, but they didn't - they fought the entire game. This was not the same Vols team that took the field earlier in the season. Their head coach is doing a great job, and if he stays, they will continue to improve.
 

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I want to give TN credit - I really thought that they would fold if you got up on them early, but they didn't - they fought the entire game. This was not the same Vols team that took the field earlier in the season. Their head coach is doing a great job, and if he stays, they will continue to improve.
I agree B1GTide and that Fresh QB that came in was obviously better and more talented than Worley. I dunno how they were justifying red shirting him. They might have just beaten FLA and/or pulled off the OT game with UGA if that kid had been playing all season.
 
I want to give TN credit - I really thought that they would fold if you got up on them early, but they didn't - they fought the entire game. This was not the same Vols team that took the field earlier in the season. Their head coach is doing a great job, and if he stays, they will continue to improve.
They folded, Bama was the one doing the folding though. They did play hard in the late stages.


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