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Politics: The Trump Impeachment Thread

It's amazing how many Trumpbots don't grasp the fact that even if the whistle blower is lying about everything, Trump already admitted it and so did Giuliani.

And given Trump's history, I'll take the whistle blower sight unseen in a truth contest between the two.
 
GrayTide said:
Not sure if this is the right thread, but calling for a civil war should show the Republicans they are supporting a deranged sociopath who would welcome bloodshed in his defense. This country has sunk to a new low and may not recover for many years.

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His "soldiers" are polishing up their guns and waiting for the signal to open fire.

After Trump is impeached, I would think the GOP Senators that voted against him might have a brighter political future than those that stuck with him. The base will be upset if he's impeached, but remember how quickly they became embarrassed over W after he left office. They would be furious at first, but they can be easily distracted by a more useful red herring at that point, and Fox News knows how to manipulate them very effectively.
 
It feels like the dam is breaking. Goulhliani is subpoenaed. Pompeo was on the phone while Trump was shaking down Ukraine.

The news is breaking faster then I can keep up with.

But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.
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(I love going Biblical on this gang of self-professed evangelicals.)
 
CharminTide said:
Indeed, you missed Trump asking Australia to help him discredit Mueller's investigation, apparently at AG Barr's request (paywalled NYT link).
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And I've seen Trump was also leaning on China for dirt on Biden as part of his package he was trying to negotiate with them.
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I was hoping when we got to this point, one of the Generals would hide the suitcase that controls the nuclear bombs, but unfortunately they've all been fired.

With him leaning on every country he's dealing with, if he doesn't get his way I'm hoping he can't blow up the world out of spite. As it stands now, I don't think a civil war here would satisfy him, he might need to start the biggest and worst war the world has ever seen.
 
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selmaborntidefan said:
Yeah, that's pretty much what I mean.

Imagine this:
Ds and Rs meet behind closed doors and agree to this secret vote. It happens and Trump gets removed.

Within five seconds of the announcement, the press starts leaking out rumors about which Republicans voted against Trump - all leaks given by Democratic Senators, of course.
Report after report comes up, the press (under no obligation to keep any secrets) starts asking every single Senator how he or she voted.

Meanwhile, the Ds decide, "Now we're really gonna screw them with their own voters" and leaks the list of who voted to remove - knowing there are no ramifications for them, so why would they care?
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Or, given that Mitch would be running the show:

Ds and Rs meet behind closed doors and agree to this secret vote. It happens and Trump is acquitted. All the GOP senators claim to have voted for removal, they have no idea who voted to acquit.

Then Mitch convinces Trump to resign, and takes all the glory for himself.
 
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Decided to watch fox news for the first time in a while to see how they are spinning this. In the few minutes that I watched it they were defending this by saying that giving Ukraine javelin is not in America's best interest. I thought it was an interesting tactic because up until recently the GOP have been advocates of using every country in the world that they can as proxies to fight Russia. Now they are saying Russia is not that bad and we should not help these countries stop Russian aggression.
 
If Russia is not that bad then I am sure Putin will not object to removing his military forces from the Crimea and the Ukraine if he is asked politely. With the exception of two or three professionals where does Fox News find these yahoos?
 
At first I thought this civil war stuff was just more silly talk. However, I posted about several people I've known for years and used to respect, that fully expect the civil war to break out and they are so excited and looking forward to it.

They went on to explain once the civil war has been won, we can also expect public hangings in the town square to start up again.

Seriously. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
 
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Chukker Veteran said:
At first I thought this civil war stuff was just more silly talk. However, I posted about several people I've known for years and used to respect, that fully expect the civil war to break out and they are so excited and looking forward to it.

They went on to explain once the civil war has been won, we can also expect public hangings in the town square to start up again.

Seriously. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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onward christian soldiers
 
Chukker Veteran said:
At first I thought this civil war stuff was just more silly talk. However, I posted about several people I've known for years and used to respect, that fully expect the civil war to break out and they are so excited and looking forward to it.

They went on to explain once the civil war has been won, we can also expect public hangings in the town square to start up again.

Seriously. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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Only a fool gets excited about war, assuming he has anything at stake to lose.
 
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Chukker Veteran said:
At first I thought this civil war stuff was just more silly talk. However, I posted about several people I've known for years and used to respect, that fully expect the civil war to break out and they are so excited and looking forward to it.

They went on to explain once the civil war has been won, we can also expect public hangings in the town square to start up again.

Seriously. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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I feel like I've watched this show before.

Oh, right.

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Chukker Veteran said:
At first I thought this civil war stuff was just more silly talk. However, I posted about several people I've known for years and used to respect, that fully expect the civil war to break out and they are so excited and looking forward to it.

They went on to explain once the civil war has been won, we can also expect public hangings in the town square to start up again.

Seriously. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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Silly talk, all of it - those who claim to want it will be the first to crap their pants and cower when violence comes to their home.

Zero chance of civil war in the US relating to Trump. Zero.
 
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