The Truth About Butch Davis and Alabama...

PlayerUA

All-SEC
Apr 1, 2000
1,211
6
0
Huntsville, Alabama
Several of you posted in another thread about my strong feelings against Butch Davis. Let there be no mistake that Butch Davis is NOT a man of character - and I'll even tell you why.

In October 2000, just after the announced firing of Mike Dubose as head football coach of The University of Alabama, feelers were put out toward several candidates to guage their interest in the job. The heaviest flirtation came from two coaches...Frank Beamer and Butch Davis.

Both said they were very interested in taking over the Crimson Tide program, both knowing that probation was just around the corner and both knowing that there was going to be a very difficult road ahead. This was particularly true of Butch Davis who had spent the previous 6 years rebuilding the Miami Hurricanes into a national power.

There really was not much difference between Beamer and Davis...Beamer may have been #1 (perhaps due to how close he came to the job in 1997) but Davis was definetly #1A. A young, strong willed head coach with a proven record of recruiting and rebuilding a national program. It seemed like a match made in heaven.

And oh was it ever...Davis praised every detail of Alabama, saying how he couldn't wait to be appreciated as a head coach, to coach one of the truly elite names in America, to have such loyal fans (this was more of a point than many realize)...he was ready and willing to accept the challenges that the Crimson Tide job would bring.

After Beamer cooled on the job offer due to intense pressure and a stiff raise from Virginia Tech, all focus immedietly turned to Davis. With the warm feelers already in place, Davis met with Alabama officials several times behind VERY closed doors. Davis did not want it to be leaked that he was about to leave the Miami Hurricanes for a team about to be hit with probation coming off of a three and eight campaign. Davis didn't want to be known as someone who would jump ship for greener pastures, that his happiness and loyalties could be bought.

So a deal was reached...a VERY strong salary...the promise of facility upgrades and a VERY long contract were to be prepared. Butch Davis shook Mal's hand and the deal was done. Davis would fly back to Miami to tell his team, tell his President and buy a crimson tie for the press conference.

For the next day the Athletic Department quietly, very quietly, prepared for the arrival of Butch Davis. A huge hire that would send ripples through the nation. A national championship coach leaving his program for Alabama, albeit a 3-8 Alabama. It would have been a huge boost to a program in need of some positive publicity.

A little over 24 hours later...for whatever reason, Mal Moore's phone rang...Butch Davis was withdrawing his name and breaking his handshake agreement. He no longer wished to be considered for the job.

Two short months later, he left Miami anyway, for the much greener pastures of the NFL. Would he have left Alabama two months after being hired? Who knows...that is probably the main reason he did not keep his word to lead the Crimson Tide.

Would he have succeeded? Yes. He would be a legend at Alabama already. His style and system would have been a perfect fit for Tuscaloosa but for whatever reason it didn't work out...and we hired another coach with a track record of rebuilding programs (and then abandoning them).

So forgive me if I hold a little ill will toward Butch Davis...I just think of what our program could be today, of what nightmares we would have avoided had he only been man enough to keep his word.

He will probably be a great fit at Florida and he will have the Gators winning championships again in no-time. He would have been a great fit at Alabama too, but...now you know, the rest of the story.
 

Bebes

1st Team
Feb 10, 2004
512
4
0
so you don't like someone because he did what he felt was best for himself and his family?
 

dayhiker

FB|BB Moderator
Staff member
Dec 8, 2000
9,335
5,636
337
Pell City, AL
Tommy Bowden was the other prominent name mentioned after Davis left the radar. Any behind the scenes goodies you can share there too?
 

GulfCoastTider

Hall of Fame
I've heard some of Davis' side to this story, and while I don't approve of going back on your word, Davis felt as if he'd been misled regarding the severity of the upcoming sanctions.

Remember, at the time Alabama thought it was guilty of minor to moderately serious offenses. Certainly, no one at that moment thought that we'd be hammered as hard as we got. I don't think Mal Moore would intentionally mislead anyone, as I think he's a man of character and integrity.

But through his own channels, Davis discovered that the forthcoming allegations were indeed much more severe than originally thought, and that he'd be facing a much more difficult road ahead than he'd been led to believe.

Whether someone in the NCAA, or the SEC, or some other school's coaches' agents told Davis a much darker story may never be known. However, Davis breaking his handshake deal with Alabama was caused by something other than Davis' bad character.

I don't think Butch Davis would have arbitrarily changed his mind. I think somebody, somewhere got to him, and somehow persuaded him that all was not what he thought it was at the Capstone. I believe Davis to be a good coach and a man of integrity himself. But the situation was very fluid at the time, and chaos was the rule of the day.

It's unfortunate that we weren't able to get him. However, I think the man we have at the helm now is no less a man of character than Davis, and I'm glad the way things are now. But I also wonder what might have been, and I also think he'll do a fine job at Florida, if he's the man they go with.

I am still hearing strong convictions that Bobby Petrino is Florida's man. In fact, I believe it's his job to turn down at this point.
 

mlh

All-American
Apr 28, 2004
3,566
2,485
282
Davis would've been an excellent choice for us. I don't begrudge him for choosing the NFL over the Bama job under the circumstances. I also agree that he was probably led to believe that the sanctions would be much less than they turned out to be. fRan had a huge problem with that very issue; although, I think Mal was telling people what he believed to be the case. I don't think he was intentionally trying to mislead anyone. That's just the way it turned out.

I like Shula and think he will be a very good coach for us once we get through the sanctions and he gains some experience. But if for any reason things don't work out and we're looking for another coach in a few years I'd be tickled to death to see us hire Butch Davis.

BTW, PlayerUA, you said Davis will be a great coach for the Gators. Is he their new coach? Is this a rumor or did I miss an announcement?
 
Last edited:

BAMMAR

All-SEC
May 15, 2002
1,528
3
0
atlanta ga usa
I am still glad we have no ties to him or the staff at coal gables correctional institute.
I am glad with the man we have.
Coach Shula is awright by me.
 

CapitalTider

All-American
Jun 8, 2004
2,798
0
0
Vienna, VA
mlh said:
BTW, PlayerUA, you said Davis will be a great coach for the Gators. Is he their new coach? Is this a rumor or did I miss an announcement?
There was an article on ESPN I posted a link to and another article on MSN (probably the same one) saying Davis was close to being fired as the Browns' coach and had expressed interest in the Florida job. Later the Browns came out and made a statement supporting Davis and saying that he would remain as coach. That may change at the end of the season and Davis may be looking for an out. His contract is a lot of money to walk away from though. So to answer your question, nothing definite, just the usual swirl of rumours. I wonder if Davis' lack of success in the NFL hurts his college prospects at all.
 

FitToBeTide

All-American
Aug 19, 2001
4,244
904
237
St. Florian
Probably

CapitalTider said:
There was an article on ESPN I posted a link to and another article on MSN (probably the same one) saying Davis was close to being fired as the Browns' coach and had expressed interest in the Florida job. Later the Browns came out and made a statement supporting Davis and saying that he would remain as coach. That may change at the end of the season and Davis may be looking for an out. His contract is a lot of money to walk away from though. So to answer your question, nothing definite, just the usual swirl of rumours. I wonder if Davis' lack of success in the NFL hurts his college prospects at all.
would not be a problem for Coach Davis to re-enter college coaching, his pro record notwithstanding. Prime example is Coach Superior coming back to the job at So. Carolina. If he puts his name out, there will be many takers wanting to have a word with him about coming to work for them, IMO.

:biga2:
 

mf627

Scout Team
Aug 18, 2003
112
1
0
I don't believe this, but here's some conspiracy fodder for the fire:

Perhaps we were given the stiff penalties that we were in order to keep us from getting a good coach.

Just a little entertainment on a dreary November morning. . .
 

TexasBama

TideFans Legend
Jan 15, 2000
26,576
30,679
287
67
Houston, Texas USA
CapitalTider said:
I wonder if Davis' lack of success in the NFL hurts his college prospects at all.
Was Pete Carroll a good NFL coach? I don't follow pros, so I don't know, but whatever he did in the pros sure didn't hurt him.
 
Pete Carroll had mixed success in the NFL

He always had a reputation for being a Rah-Rah kind of guy. I'm not sure that played well in the NFL and could possibly be the reason he had mixed success in the pros.

As for Butch Davis, I think he IS a good coach but probably is better suited to the college game. We'll never know what kind of match he would have been at Alabama but I do think the upcoming NCAA penalties had a BIG part in his decision not to take the Alabama job. Most coaches, to be honest, have a bit of an ego. Having the program possibly strapped with NCAA penalties would make the job harder.

We can talk all day about what kind of coach he would have been but we'll never really know.