Trump's Policies Part 4

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I’m looking forward to the release of the text message where one of them relays that they told Trump, “We got Houthi” and he asked if they also killed the blowfish.
 
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I have to wonder what was the purpose of this chat meeting in the first place?
Was it just a bunch of trump fanboyz basking in their own imagined importance? (and why not trump)
Why was the Treasury secretary included?
Why didn't someone such as CIA director or National Security Advisor question who the unknown participant JG was? -or-
Why wasn't this done on a much more secure platform?
Appears to be an incompetant group gathered for nothing more than a ***********!
 

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I have to wonder what was the purpose of this chat meeting in the first place?
Was it just a bunch of trump fanboyz basking in their own imagined importance? (and why not trump)
Why was the Treasury secretary included?
Why didn't someone such as CIA director or National Security Advisor question who the unknown participant JG was? -or-
Why wasn't this done on a much more secure platform?
Appears to be an incompetant group gathered for nothing more than a ***********!
Signal is allegedly encrypt end-to-end, but that is useless if you invite some guy named JG (or V Putin) into your chat.
 

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I'd like to know a bit more about what she did and why they took her into custody.
I seriously doubt it was because she wrote an op-ed in the student newspaper calling on the Tufts president to “acknowledge the Palestinian genocide” and disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel" or that her name appeared on a web site.
What is this "well-known website that claims to 'document individuals and organizations that promote hatred of the USA, Israel and Jews on North American college campuses and beyond?”

Of course, ICE is not talking either, so hard to tell.
 

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Der Spiegel has now found the passwords and personal data online of Hegseth, Waltz and Gabbard.


I will bet you Hegseth’s password is Its5o’clocksomewhere
 

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Der Spiegel has now found the passwords and personal data online of Hegseth, Waltz and Gabbard.


I will bet you Hegseth’s password is Its5o’clocksomewhere
I read where Hegseth's being called WhiskeyLeaks now. I think that's prety funny.
 

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DHS spokesman released a statement.
A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said: "Rumeysa Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

"Hope for peace for the Palestinian people, fine. Praise Hamas? Here's your ticket home. Buh-bye."
 

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Yeah, I know.
The Law of Armed Conflict is pretty clear: aim for the combatant and if others get hurt, that is unfortunate and not intended, but their are still dead.
The US (and Europeans) have added a collateral damage (CD) risk assessment. How important is the target? How many noncombatants are likely to die if we proceed with the strike (and the answer is not "no strike unless we can guarantee no civilians casualties" because adopting that as the standard would mean unethical combatants would just set up facilities under schools)? Is the target worth the CD?
In Serbia in 1999, European countries were extremely risk averse when it came to CD. The US were more willing to accept the CD risk.
This was called an apartment building in the text, so I would assume at least 4 different apartments and probably a lot more than 4 apartments. I get blowing up a house and if the next two houses have damage, so be it. But dozens of civilians, if not far more, were probably killed for one guy? That's despicable.
 

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This was called an apartment building in the text, so I would assume at least 4 different apartments and probably a lot more than 4 apartments. I get blowing up a house and if the next two houses have damage, so be it. But dozens of civilians, if not far more, were probably killed for one guy? That's despicable.
Yes, but we do not know the local circumstances. Maybe the apartment building was unoccupied because the rocket-maker's girlfriend. Who knows?
The US killed a completely innocent man in Kabul because analysts believed (wrongly, as it turned out) he was the bomb-maker of the bomb that killed GIs at the Kabul Airport. The guy was actually going to fetch water for his family.

Air power is easy (for us), but it puts the risk almost entirely on people at or near the target.
 

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This was called an apartment building in the text, so I would assume at least 4 different apartments and probably a lot more than 4 apartments. I get blowing up a house and if the next two houses have damage, so be it. But dozens of civilians, if not far more, were probably killed for one guy? That's despicable.
I suspect if we knew the number of innocent people killed by our government over the last few decades we'd burn DC to the ground.
 

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DHS spokesman released a statement.
A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said: "Rumeysa Ozturk is a Turkish national and Tufts University graduate student, granted the privilege to be in this country on a visa. DHS and ICE investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security."

"Hope for peace for the Palestinian people, fine. Praise Hamas? Here's your ticket home. Buh-bye."
There has been no proof that she broke any laws. Just having a political view, even writing about that political view, is not against the law. So far, this is a clear violation of the 1st amendment but Dictator Trump and his supporters don’t care.

The more disturbing thing to me is the way she was arrested, by plain clothes individuals wearing masks to hide their faces. Supposedly they were Fed agents. This is ridiculous and not how any real law enforcement agency should behave. The video makes it look like a kidnapping not an arrest. This is worse than WWII Nazi SS behavior because at least the Nazis had the balls to show their faces. It’s unconstitutional and pathetic behavior by this dictatorship of an administration.
 
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Btw, maybe l missed this in all the postings in the last 48 hours, but this one stood out to me upon release of the messages: where was Donald Trump on this chat about bombing Yemen?

Ok, l know the legit response is going to be that he was aware of it and had made the alpha manly decision and turned the execution of it to the frat house of Oui Kappa Knee……but why do l somehow suspect that if this was the last guy then this would be another “he’s not even involved” story?
 
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Btw, maybe l missed this in all the postings in the last 48 hours, but this one stood out to me upon release of the messages: where was Donald Trump on this chat about bombing Yemen?

Ok, l know the legit response is going to be that he was aware of it and had made the alpha manly decision and turned the execution of it to the frat house of Oui Kappa Knee……but why do l somehow suspect that if this was the last guy then this would be another “he’s not even involved” story?
Of course they would but honestly, this whole Signal screwup doesn’t surprise me. Of course this administration is playing loosey goosey with classified information. I mean the president himself stole boxes of classified documents and stored them in unsecured rooms in his beach mansion. Monkey see, monkey do.
 
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