News Article: Very interesting USAToday take on UT's "extra second..."
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Wow.... I thought they were going to overturn the 2000 Bush/Gore election before that article ended!
That is an interesting list of "coulda's", but I still think that somehow Bama is facing TCU in the CG if time runs out on Texas.
That is an interesting list of "coulda's", but I still think that somehow Bama is facing TCU in the CG if time runs out on Texas.
Interesting story. I'm one who, right or wrong, feel like they blew the call.
To me, a pass is incomplete and the clock stops, not when the ball hits the ground but when the official recognizes that the ball has hit the ground , blows his whistle and signals incomplete pass.
The review that showed the ball hitting the ground with one second remaining should have been of no consequence in my opinion. If it wasn't signaled incomplete by the officials until time had expired then game over.
What if, on the play, an offensive receiver and a DB both jumped together to go after the ball in the end zone and both came down wrestling for it and the official wasn't sure who had it. So he runs to see who has it..........and sure enough he sees that neither one of them does. The ball came loose and is laying underneath one of the players. he would then and only then signal incomplete pass wherein the clock would be stopped. They wouldn't review that play and put time back on the clock for the exact time the ball hit the ground because it wasn't officially incomplete until the official signaled it incomplete.
At least my opinion. I'm not a ref and never have been. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
But until someone can change my mind I'll think Texas received a gift and Nebraska got shafted.
There's my two cents. Certainly an informative story though.
sip
To me, a pass is incomplete and the clock stops, not when the ball hits the ground but when the official recognizes that the ball has hit the ground , blows his whistle and signals incomplete pass.
The review that showed the ball hitting the ground with one second remaining should have been of no consequence in my opinion. If it wasn't signaled incomplete by the officials until time had expired then game over.
What if, on the play, an offensive receiver and a DB both jumped together to go after the ball in the end zone and both came down wrestling for it and the official wasn't sure who had it. So he runs to see who has it..........and sure enough he sees that neither one of them does. The ball came loose and is laying underneath one of the players. he would then and only then signal incomplete pass wherein the clock would be stopped. They wouldn't review that play and put time back on the clock for the exact time the ball hit the ground because it wasn't officially incomplete until the official signaled it incomplete.
At least my opinion. I'm not a ref and never have been. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
But until someone can change my mind I'll think Texas received a gift and Nebraska got shafted.
There's my two cents. Certainly an informative story though.
sip
But the play was whistled dead with time on the clock. The time running off was a scoreboard operator error.
No, the play was blown dead after the clock read 0:00. The ball hit out of bounds with 1 second left. By the time the ref blows the whistle and the clock operator stops it, there is always an extra second or two that roll off the clock on every pass play. There was no operator error. The only error was Colt McCoy having a brain cramp and almost costing his team a chance to win the game. Texas just needs to be glad that college football has instant replay review because a few years ago the game would have been over. I am glad Texas won. I was pulling for them but that would have been one of the the biggest mistakes ever and McCoy would have been remembered much differently. He was nearly the goat.
Sigh .... Alasippi, the official DID signal that the ball is incomplete with one second on the clock. Here is video proof.
Click on the link. Stop it at the 23 or 24 second mark. Look at the official on the far left hand side of the screen, upper left. He is signaling incomplete pass while THERE is CLEARLY still one second left on the clock.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0VlPP2aaTU]YouTube - Texas Longhorns vs Nebraska Cornhuskers (Dec 5th 2009) Full Ending[/ame]
Tiderman, this is simply incorrect. Review the video that I provided in the link above. You can see the official signaling incomplete pass with one second left on the clock. Upper left hand side, almost out of the screen shot, but not quite. 23-24 seconds into the video.
The clock operator allowed the time to roll off even though the official is signaling that the pass was incomplete.
IF that were the last play of the game, that would be the only throw in Mccoy's career that anyone would have remembered.
Talk about 1 second a hero in Austin, the next second and 20 years later its a LACES OUT life for Colt.
One second can truly change your life.
Talk about 1 second a hero in Austin, the next second and 20 years later its a LACES OUT life for Colt.
One second can truly change your life.
You sir are correct.
Either way, I'm glad it was overturned, I'd rather play Texas in the NCG. It's a much bigger and more highly anticipated game this way.
I'm not a big fan of could'ves, because they didn't happen. Everything that's supposed to happen did happen. The right call was made and the right matchup is the one we got.
Tiderman is correct that when a play is blown dead usually another second or two run off before the clock actually stops. This happens all through a game if you watch and is usually not of consequence, but in this case it was. Texas got the second added because of instant replay which I think was the right call. But had this game been played before instant replay came in then Nebraska wins and there is BCS confusion!
Colt McCoy had a braincramp and got bailed out with instant replay. However, FWIW, I was rooting for UT because I wanted Bama to play TX in the BCSCG.
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In all the years I have watched college football, I have never seen an incomplete pass out of bounds reviewed. Strange. Very strange. How many more seconds were lost in the game on incomplete passes? Why weren't they reviewed? Nebraska might have had several seconds left on the clock if they all had been reviewed. Strange. Very strange.
Look at the video below. The official's hands were waiving in the air that the play was over with one second clearly left on the clock. Right call was made.
This is nothing new since replay came into play in college football. There are a lot of "routine" things that happen in early parts of the game that are not even blinked at but in the closing minutes of the game are reviewed. The concept is to not let one missed call in the most crucial part of the game to cost a team the game.
It is strange, just like many calls in each game that don't end up being reviewed. As fans we're told that every play is reviewed, but that's simply not true. I see plays every game that at least deserve to be reviewed, but most of the time, only the ones that make a difference in the outcome are reviewed, such as the one at the end of the Big12CG.
You say in all the years you've watched college football.... but replay has only been around a few years, and plays like the one in the UT-NU game are 1 in a million. When is the last time you remember watching a game where the QB threw a ball out of bounds like that and there was a dispute about how much time was on the clock? Off the top of my head, I can't recall one such occasion. Not saying one hasn't happened, just that it's rare.
The right call was made. Replay exist for a reason, to make sure the calls are corrected. There was 1 second left on the clock when the ball hit the ground, that is indisputable. The ref signaled incomplete pass with 1 second left, that is also undisputable. I don't see why, with this much undisputable evidence, people can't accept the fact that the refs made the right decision to put time back on the clock. Should a game be decided because the guy in the booth made an error in judgement? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
I agree the right call was made.
However, I still can't get over the horrible clock management. There was no reason for them to do what they did. Very Les Miles-like.
Just get up to the line, run a play to the side of the field that is favored by the kicker, and then call timeout with 3 seconds left.
However, I still can't get over the horrible clock management. There was no reason for them to do what they did. Very Les Miles-like.
Just get up to the line, run a play to the side of the field that is favored by the kicker, and then call timeout with 3 seconds left.
This is also true.
If that extra second hadn't been there, Les Miles would've been smiling because there'd have been someone dumber'n him.
Actually, the point to which you are referring shows the ref beginning to signal incomplete pass with 1 second showing on the clock. In real time, by the time/when the clock operator would have seen this, more than likely (and what actually happened) what was left of that last second turned to zero. No operator error was involved. That's just the way things work in real time.
As has already been stated, Texas was very fortunate that they reviewed that play and put one second back on the clock. It could have very easily gone the other way. Personally, I'm glad it worked out the way it did. I was hoping to play Texas in the NC game.
Not everyone agrees about this replay review decision. If it were me making the call in the booth Nebraska won the game. Without a shadow of a doubt.
Adjusting time on the clock after time expires is the 1972 men's basketball Olympics all over again. It's insulting to me as a football fan to even know that the replay process has been this perverted.
Only man that matters is the replay official. Not the paid timekeeper, not the side judge, not the back judge, not the umpire, not the referee. Certainly not me.
The replay ruling that gets me is the inbounds call that is called out of bounds by the analysts and armchair quarterbacks (and replay officials too) based on the camera from the opposite side, or the overhead cam from the center of the field. As if that camera angle shows a toe touching white (or not) better than the referee standing 4 yards away, looking right down at the foot.
Nebraska didn't get jobbed by the officials on the field. They did get jobbed, though.
imho
Adjusting time on the clock after time expires is the 1972 men's basketball Olympics all over again. It's insulting to me as a football fan to even know that the replay process has been this perverted.
Only man that matters is the replay official. Not the paid timekeeper, not the side judge, not the back judge, not the umpire, not the referee. Certainly not me.
The replay ruling that gets me is the inbounds call that is called out of bounds by the analysts and armchair quarterbacks (and replay officials too) based on the camera from the opposite side, or the overhead cam from the center of the field. As if that camera angle shows a toe touching white (or not) better than the referee standing 4 yards away, looking right down at the foot.
Nebraska didn't get jobbed by the officials on the field. They did get jobbed, though.
imho
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