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Only at Alabama can you be 18-5, over 500 in your conference, big non-conference wins against Iowa, Xavier, Oklahoma, NC State.....and be a bubble team.

Only at Alabama can you be 18-5, have won 3 in a row.......and have fans that are whining about how bad we are.......

Win by one, or win by 20.......counts as only one win, AND it only counts as one in the RPI too....

Lose by one, or lose by 20.........counts as only one loss, AND it only counts as one in the RPI too....

Only at Alabama can your coach take you on the longest NCAA run we've had in decades, AND be criticized for underachieving........

I'm happy.....we're 18-5.....we have a point guard who is playing with 100% heart when his body is only 60%. We have a F/C who lost is love of his life and his brother less than 2 months ago, but has played several outstanding games (Oklahoma, LSU) single-handedly winning games for us. We have a JUCO 2 guard who has been clutch when we needed him most, even though year in and year out, we hear about how hard it is for JUCOs to come in and fit in right away (see Jean Felix.....). We have a Point Guard in BH that is a little bit Pettway and a little bit Elliot Washington, and plays a foot taller than his body is......and we have the man-child who is finding his role, and quietly becoming the leader on this team (pay attention, he is starting to take that role on)......and we have two role players in Jemison and Tubbs who bring energy, drive, and passion to the game......

So, what's the problem? Appreciate this team.......their legacy is yet to be written.......I for one, feel like this ride is far from over, and when it's all said and done, it will be one to remember!!

For me, it already has been......
 
Re: 18-5 - What's the Problem?

Couldn't agree more. Considering what our stars have been going through, I would say most fans should be very happy.
 
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I don't think we are as good as our record indicates. We've beaten only one team in the RPI Top 50, Georgia #46. Xavier is our best out of conference win at #51. Oklahoma is #80. Iowa #87 and NC State #105. I do think both Iowa and NC State are improving as the season wears on.

We are struggling to beat lower echelon teams at home. Not very successful on the road (2 wins). But hey, we are winning and that is the bottomline.

All that said. We have opportunities in front of us to make the season real good. At Ole Miss, at Florida, Kentucky, at Tennessee. Very tough. But if we can get 2 of 4 ......I think fans outlook will start to change.

Roll Tide Roll!!!
 
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Re: 18-5 - What's the Problem?

Nobody wants to believe in this team more than me. Yes, we are 18-5 and that is good and we should be grateful. I think if there is any disappointment it is wanting to see the team emerge that we all know is hiding in there somewhere. Having said that I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this team come to life and go deep into the tournament. The talent is there...I think it all comes down to confidence and working as a team.
 
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Preach on Cajun.....

We'll have more doom & gloomers after our next loss, but thats par for the course.

Our next 5 games are extremely difficult. At Ole Miss, Florida, UK at home, At UT & AU home. Win 2 of those, we're in decent shape, win 3 we're in great shape and in the Tourney.
 
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I agree 100%. First of all, were first in the SEC west and our record shows no sign of complaint. Who gives a rip if those crapheads at ESPN put us in the bubble. They know that were a 5 or 4 seed, they are just doing it for spite. I mean, no person can serioulsy take a team out of their "bracketology" right after they win, which is what happen when we beat SC. We just need to keep winning and do great in the SEC tourny to make ESPN look like fools again(SABAN).
 
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You make some good points about how 18-5 is a solid record. I don't think the record is the problem. I think the complaints come because fans like me know this year could really be special due to some of the talent we have; however, good teams don't get blown out time after time. Yes, we have only lost five games, but I think all of them were by more than twenty points. Yes, it only counts as one loss, but losing by twenty or more as often as we have doesn't bode well for the remainder of the season. I applaud the guys for not giving up on games like Georgia and MSU, but we will either learn to play defense and score more consistently or we will get our tails handed to us a few more times this year.
 
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I'm very happy with the way they have turned it around the last 3 games. I'd prefer to win by 10 pts or so. But the team will learn more from winning these close ones late. We're playing better early and our defense has improved. Just need to keep it up.
 
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I'm fine and dandy with 18-5. I just want us to defend on the perimeter. The upcoming game against Ole Miss will tell us alot about where this team is headed.
 
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yeah we are 18-5 but we easily could have lost every one of our SEC games with an acception to the first game with LSU. I mean we have trailed for most of the game in all other wins in the SEC. I think the team would be much better with Steele at 100% but right now they are not very good. I am a huge Bama fan but I can honestly as a die hard basketball fan watch them play. I mean these are not good teams that we are struggling to beat. You can say what you want and keep throwing the ole there is never an easy game in the SEC out there but that is old. The SEC has one solid team and that is Florida with Kentucky getting better fast. I do think that Steele is the key to getting us back. I mean you saw what losing Pro meant to the football team and a football team has 11 on the field. Bball has 5 and PG is the most important position. THE FACT IS THAT IF STEELE CAN RETURN TO OLD FORM WE CAN MAKE SOME NOISE COME MARCH, IF HE DOES NOT THEN EXPECT ANOTHER EARLY EXIT OR MAYBE EVEN A NIT CHAMPIONSHIP.
 
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rmurks said:
yeah we are 18-5 but we easily could have lost every one of our SEC games with an acception to the first game with LSU. I mean we have trailed for most of the game in all other wins in the SEC. I think the team would be much better with Steele at 100% but right now they are not very good. I am a huge Bama fan but I can honestly as a die hard basketball fan watch them play. I mean these are not good teams that we are struggling to beat. You can say what you want and keep throwing the ole there is never an easy game in the SEC out there but that is old. The SEC has one solid team and that is Florida with Kentucky getting better fast. I do think that Steele is the key to getting us back. I mean you saw what losing Pro meant to the football team and a football team has 11 on the field. Bball has 5 and PG is the most important position. THE FACT IS THAT IF STEELE CAN RETURN TO OLD FORM WE CAN MAKE SOME NOISE COME MARCH, IF HE DOES NOT THEN EXPECT ANOTHER EARLY EXIT OR MAYBE EVEN A NIT CHAMPIONSHIP.
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Alright i am just wondering if you watch basketball, first it is "exception" not "acception", next yes we could have easily lost all those games but we didnt....the other team did. I would rather be winning than losing any day.... if the SEC only has one "solid" team (maybe i just dont understand the term) than why could the SEC get 6 or 7 in the tourney.... the fact is that most of the "bad" teams in the SEC are better than the "good" teams of a lot of conferences. The worst two teams statistically, LSU and South Carolina are still ranked in the top 80 RPI.....by comparison the worst team in the ACC, miami, is ranked 168.... all i want is to make the tourney and give ourselves a shot....if we keep improving than anything can happen once you get into the tournament.....all we have to do is win the ones we are supposed to win and we will get in, everything else just helps our seeding (ie. at Florida, Kentucky, at Tennessee)
 
Re: 18-5 - What's the Problem?

What's the problem? There is no problem..

You've got a team that has lost BAD a couple of times to BAD teams which deserves some second guessing of the the players, and YES the coach...

You've got a team with a record of 18-5 and a lot of people praising them for that accomplishment, which is how it should be...

You've got a team that is struggling to beat weaker opponents at home, that too deserves some worry..

You've got a team that is finding ways to win, which is unmeasurable and will pay dividends somewhere down the road, just like the year BAMA made it to the Elite 8...

This team deserves praise as well as some criticism, There is no problem with that...when fans stop wanting to their team to be the best we will have a problem....

These threads seem to be getting old, where someone feels the need to protect Alabama from its fans...throughout the course of a season there are times to praise and times to rethink things, that's what makes sports so wonderful....
 
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And - without difference of opinion, there would be no discussion boards. Like this one...:wink:
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
And - without difference of opinion, there would be no discussion boards. Like this one...:wink:
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Agreed....but this thread is about telling people how to be a "fan"...

I think we should stick to agreeing or disagreeing about basketball not about how to root for your team.
 
Re: 18-5 - What's the Problem?

We are an average run of the mill team until Steele is healthy. I think he gets healthy pretty soon and we become a good to great team that can pull out a good tourny season in both SEC and NCAA.
 
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Ron's started driving the lane and drawing a few fouls, but still has a long way to go to get back to 100%.

If we can keep the intensity level up to what it's been the last few games and get over our perimeter shooting slump, we'll be a lot better team.

An interesting stat:

Code: 
Thru 2/7/07         |	        FG%		 |	        3PT%		|
Player              | Non-Conf	Conf    Diff 	 |    Non-Conf	Conf    Diff	|
--------------------|----------------------------|------------------------------|
Gee, Alonzo	    |	.574	.375   -.199	 |	.452	.290   -.162	|
Riley, Mykal	    |	.492	.409   -.083	 |	.378	.333   -.045	|
Steele, Ronald	    |	.435	.329   -.106	 |	.500	.310   -.190	|
Hollinger, Brandon  |	.391	.292   -.099	 |	.394	.385   -.009	|
Tubbs, Justin	    |	.652	.263   -.389	 |	.600	.214   -.386	|
Torrance, Mikhail   |	.355    .000   -.355	 |	.154	.000   -.154	|
 
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If not for all the preseason final four hype that came from those same ESPN idiots that have us a bubble team now, the 18-5 record would be super any other year. We would be happy with a 20-22 win record and looking forward to a possible run in the dance and nobody would complain cause we are a football school anyways.;) Thats the way it supposed to be and hopefully will be after CNS gets the football team back on track.;)

How dare any of us to expect our basketball team to be on par with the football team, we ain't Florida!:p Good to average coaching is fine for the basketball team but hell no when it comes to football. We will throw even our own under the bus for average football coaching but not basketball. Its not so bad though compared to the Hobbs reign. In the 9 years CMG has been here we have went to the dance what 6 or 7 times in a row? Thats great for a football school, even made the schools first elite 8! We have won 1 SEC regular season championship in those 9 years as well although its been too long for me to remember the last SEC tourney we won but hey thats great for a football school! We did make the finals of the NIT a couple times I believe in the past 9 years although we never won it unlike South Carolina but again we are a football school.:biggrin2:

All this hype that them idiots at ESPN and elsewhere gave us is the problem!:mad2: I won't listen to them idiots anymore especially now that we have CNS in charge of the football program. This ship is fixing to be righted!

I'm tickled crimson with the basketball team now that my expectations have been brought back down to earth. The rest of the schedule doesn't look promising as to having a winning record from here on out but I think if we can manage at least a 500 record from here on out we will make the dance again. Thats really all we can ask for or should hope for. If not maybe we can make it to New York and the Madison Square Garden again and possibly bring home that trophy, that would be great. And it should earn our coaches at least another year or two on their contracts.;)

You know actually when our expectations are low our coaches and team seem to do much better. They seem to get a chip on their shoulder and come out with fire in their eyes. Everytime they are hyped real high they seem to flounder for some reason. Maybe being on the bubble for the dance will somehow bring them closer and they will respond in a positive way and surprise us all. Who knows, I'm just not going to get my hopes flying high again. I can't wait till August!!!!:biggrin2:
 
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wastedmason said:
If not for all the preseason final four hype that came from those same ESPN idiots that have us a bubble team now, the 18-5 record would be super any other year. We would be happy with a 20-22 win record and looking forward to a possible run in the dance and nobody would complain cause we are a football school anyways.;) Thats the way it supposed to be and hopefully will be after CNS gets the football team back on track.;)

How dare any of us to expect our basketball team to be on par with the football team, we ain't Florida!:p Good to average coaching is fine for the basketball team but hell no when it comes to football. We will throw even our own under the bus for average football coaching but not basketball. Its not so bad though compared to the Hobbs reign. In the 9 years CMG has been here we have went to the dance what 6 or 7 times in a row? Thats great for a football school, even made the schools first elite 8! We have won 1 SEC regular season championship in those 9 years as well although its been too long for me to remember the last SEC tourney we won but hey thats great for a football school! We did make the finals of the NIT a couple times I believe in the past 9 years although we never won it unlike South Carolina but again we are a football school.:biggrin2:

All this hype that them idiots at ESPN and elsewhere gave us is the problem!:mad2: I won't listen to them idiots anymore especially now that we have CNS in charge of the football program. This ship is fixing to be righted!

I'm tickled crimson with the basketball team now that my expectations have been brought back down to earth. The rest of the schedule doesn't look promising as to having a winning record from here on out but I think if we can manage at least a 500 record from here on out we will make the dance again. Thats really all we can ask for or should hope for. If not maybe we can make it to New York and the Madison Square Garden again and possibly bring home that trophy, that would be great. And it should earn our coaches at least another year or two on their contracts.;)

You know actually when our expectations are low our coaches and team seem to do much better. They seem to get a chip on their shoulder and come out with fire in their eyes. Everytime they are hyped real high they seem to flounder for some reason. Maybe being on the bubble for the dance will somehow bring them closer and they will respond in a positive way and surprise us all. Who knows, I'm just not going to get my hopes flying high again. I can't wait till August!!!!:biggrin2:
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Here's the answer to the question of why is the atmosphere lacking in SEC arenas. I lost count of the football references.
 
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