Which was worse: The end of the football season or the basketball season for Sparty?

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Almost everyone I've talked to says that 2-seed Michigan State losing to 15-seed MTSU was worse because of the magnitude of the upset. Michigan State was one of the favorites to go all the way on many brackets and according to many experts, and many around the team were upset that they were a 2-seed. However, I'm more prone to consider the end of the football season worse for Sparty for three reasons:

1) More people got to witness Bama destroy Sparty live. There were other games going on while Sparty went down to MTSU, plus it happened in the middle of a Friday afternoon. Millions of people were tuned in, most people didn't tune in to the basketball game until late in the 2nd half when the real possibility of an upset became more and more apparent. Most people were still at work or school and unless you were a Sparty or MTSU fan, a 2-15 match up is not going to draw incredible numbers across the nationwide at 3 in the afternoon. Though the CFP semi-final took place on New Years' Eve when many people were focused on holiday festivities, there was more of an opportunity for people to be at home in front of their TVs to see what happened with a 7 pm kick off time. I know there was a big stink about the Semifinal games being on NYE, but the spotlight was brighter CFP game than then tourney game. Without question.

2) This was the second time during the Coach Saban era that Sparty, particularly Coach D'Antonio, was embarrassed on national TV by the Tide. I know Sparty fans going into the CFP game KNEW that they had closed the gap between us like Clemson proved they did. There was know way Alabama was going to dominate them like last time. After all, the Capital One Bowl was 5 years ago, and they were the Big Ten champs that took down Ohio St. and Iowa, and the SEC wasn't what it used to be... 38-0 and even worse than last time when they lost 49-7, they didn't. even. score.

3) There is a greater chance of happier times being on the horizon for Sparty in basketball than with football (as long as Coach Izzo is there, that is). I mean look at Duke. Since 2012, Duke has been a 2-seed that's lost to a 15 AND a 3-seed that's lost to a 14. Yet all of that has been forgiven with them winning it all last season. I think of Michigan St as one of the 5-6 teams that you can pencil in as serious title contenders year in and year out in college basketball (UNC, DUKE, Kansas, and Kentucky) I think it's more likely that these guys will be back to the Final Four, than for the football team to make it back to the CFP.

So what say you TideFans, which was worse?
 
Football of course. B1G has decent enough basketball schools but football still rules. Winning in the big tournament is pretty much a crap shoot. The best team almost never wins. I really still don't think most people care anything about basketball. If Bama somehow won it all in basketball, I'd be happy for us (shocked to be perfectly honest) but it still does not compare to a NC in football. Not even close.
 
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Gotta be basketball - few expected them to beat Bama, but they were heavy favorites against MTSU...
Without a doubt. Losing in the final four in the NCAA tournament would be a much easier pill to swallow than losing to the 15 seed in the first round. Which is just what they did in football, they lost in the final four.
 
I think this depends on whether BB or FB is your main focus. I have not watched a single BB game this year, so the football loss is much, much worse. But if I just look at the numbers then that is a hard one to choose. Did they get totally dominated in the BB game as in FB? The football game was a complete embarrassment for them.
 
Losing to Alabama was a surprise to the players. They saw OSU beat Alabama last year and believed that they could do the same. They really believed in the strength of their defense, and in their QB. And they hung in there for the first half. The first 9 possessions ended in punts. The halftime score was 10-0, and could easily have been closer. So that loss stings.

But the loss to MTSU will keep fans up at night. I don't know how it happened, and they don't know how it happened.

In a year in which they believe that their team had legitimate shots at national championships in both football and basketball, they came away sorely disappointed. I don't feel bad for them, but I won't rub their noses in it.
 
The majority of NCAAF fans thought Bama was going to beat MSU. The majority of MSU fans thought they were going to beat Bama.

The majority of NCAAM fans thought that Syracuse didn't belong in the tournament. The majority of NCAAM fans thought MSU was going to win the tournament. ALL MSU fans thought they were going to beat MTSU.

Syracuse (SYRACUSE!?) accomplished what MSU could not accomplish with MTSU. That in itself should answer your question.
 
I think this depends on whether BB or FB is your main focus. I have not watched a single BB game this year, so the football loss is much, much worse. But if I just look at the numbers then that is a hard one to choose. Did they get totally dominated in the BB game as in FB? The football game was a complete embarrassment for them.

This is exactly why I tend to think the football game was worse. I've haven't really been into the NCAA tourney in 7-8 years and haven't watched any college bball this year either. I'd probably feel differently if I knew just how good Coach Izzo team was/was supposed to be this year because like I said earlier, some people thought they should've been a 1.

But I'm one of those crackpots that thought we'd have a 16 over 1 upset by now....
 
According to one of the Vegas books, the most money spent on one team to win the NCAA tournament was on Michigan State. That's what was expected out of them.

Against Alabama, MSU was around a 9 point underdog.

That should tell you which was worse.
 
Football of course. B1G has decent enough basketball schools but football still rules. Winning in the big tournament is pretty much a crap shoot. The best team almost never wins. I really still don't think most people care anything about basketball. If Bama somehow won it all in basketball, I'd be happy for us (shocked to be perfectly honest) but it still does not compare to a NC in football. Not even close.

Spoken like a true southern football fan! :wink:

Football is pretty big with OSU, Michigan, Penn State etc. but schools like MSU and Indiana basketball is king because they see themselves in basketball like we see ourselves in football.

Football loss had to hurt, but most of their fans thought they had a chance to win a NC AGAIN in basketball.

EDIT: I was at the Cotton Bowl on NYE and I saw their turnout and passion, but it was more "hopeful" than "confident" that night.
 
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Losing to Alabama was losing to a favored, higher ranked team in dynasty status where even a close loss is admired years later.

Losing to MTSU was the equivalent of UM losing to App State in 2007.
 
Put it this way. Michigan State losing that basketball game to MTSU would be like today's Nick Saban Alabama losing to the MTSU football team.

Upsets are easier in basketball, IMO, just because of the nature of the game. But still, that one was a 9.0 on the Richter scale.
 
Just remember..........when the football players are recalling their fond memories of 2015, they'll remember:

a) getting to the semi-final
b) winning the Big Ten in a great game
c) beating Ohio State
d) the incredible, unbelievable finish vs Michigan

.....along with the beatdown in Jerry World.


The basketball team won't be able to wash away the pain twenty years from now as they contemplate, "We really could have won it all that year..."
 
For all of those that think the Basketball loss was worse.....

Substitute "Alabama" for "Michigan State" -- and ask that question again.....

Only 4 teams get invited to the big dance in football. You win 2 to win it all.....

Basketball -- the odds of winning 6 in a row......is insanely difficult.....

I'd easily say the loss to Bama was much worse, because they were much closer to winning a championship in Football.

The reason everyone was betting on Mich State - is that they appeared to be the safest bet on the board.
 
For all of those that think the Basketball loss was worse.....

Substitute "Alabama" for "Michigan State" -- and ask that question again.....

Only 4 teams get invited to the big dance in football. You win 2 to win it all.....

Basketball -- the odds of winning 6 in a row......is insanely difficult.....

I'd easily say the loss to Bama was much worse, because they were much closer to winning a championship in Football.

The reason everyone was betting on Mich State - is that they appeared to be the safest bet on the board.

For the fans, the basketball was worse because they were expected to at least get past the first round.
 
For all of those that think the Basketball loss was worse.....

Substitute "Alabama" for "Michigan State" -- and ask that question again.....

Only 4 teams get invited to the big dance in football. You win 2 to win it all.....

Basketball -- the odds of winning 6 in a row......is insanely difficult.....

I'd easily say the loss to Bama was much worse, because they were much closer to winning a championship in Football.

The reason everyone was betting on Mich State - is that they appeared to be the safest bet on the board.

6 one, half dozen the other...but MSU has recently won Basketball championships and, while navigating the tourney is difficult, they knew they were capable.

Football, on the other hand, is not their wheelhouse.
 
For all of those that think the Basketball loss was worse.....

Substitute "Alabama" for "Michigan State" -- and ask that question again.....

Only 4 teams get invited to the big dance in football. You win 2 to win it all.....

Basketball -- the odds of winning 6 in a row......is insanely difficult.....

I'd easily say the loss to Bama was much worse, because they were much closer to winning a championship in Football.

The reason everyone was betting on Mich State - is that they appeared to be the safest bet on the board.

They were no closer to winning the NC in football than we were in basketball this year. Those 2 games might as well have been 200.
 
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