Who stays and who goes?

I'm not sure about MI. His stats are down from last year. I don't think he will go first round like he would have last year. Something is not quite right with him this year. I don't know if it has something to do with his injury.He also was noticeably winded during the MS or GaSt ( I can't remember which one ) game. His cuts are no longer as they were last year. I think he'll need another year to prove himself, whether he will or not I don't know. JJ is gone in my mind. The rest ???? probably shouldn't be.
 
My personal opinion would have been that Ingram was the only sure-fire high round pick. I would have hoped that a combination of factors might bring back the rest of the underclassmen for another year.

However, I have been told by a source that I consider very reliable (and most of you would, as well) that probably all of our high profile Jr's will be going pro.

That list of those leaving early probably includes:

Mark Ingram
Julio Jones
Mark Barron
Marcel Dareus
Donta Hightower
Courtney Upshaw
 
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IMO it would be foolish for Ingram to come back. Running backs have only a limited amount of carries in them. You have your RARE and I mean RARE exceptions but RB's in today's NFL game come a dime a dozen. Especially with the passing game becoming more prevalent. He's already won the Heisman and a national championship. I'd be willing to be CNS is going to TELL HIM, not advise him to go.

Exactly! How quickly did Mark go from being the leading candidate to win the Heisman a second year in a row to missing a couple games and being completely limited the rest of the year? It wasn't even in a game, it was practice. It only takes one hit to end a career. If anything the injury this year will remind him of that and he will go.
 
IMO, JJ is the only player on the team I feel is ready to make the leap to the NFL. I think Ingram stays another year. I don't think he was satisfied with the way the season turned out.

I see MD leaving, but I don't think Barron or Hightower will or need to leave.
 
MI, JJ, and MD will all be drafted in the first 20 picks. There is no way that CNS will try and talk them into staying. They risk lifetime financial security by staying and there is not enough to gain by taking that risk.

#20 (Karrem Jackson BTW) 16.3 million (13.35 guaranteed)

#32 5 years 12.25 Million dollars (7 million guaranteed)

You cannot ignore or chance that opportunity, least of all when it is a virtual lock.
 
Has the pending NFL lockout been discussed? I wonder if this will have an effect on our juniors? Should they jump anyway even if they are ranked to go in the 1st round?
 
Has the pending NFL lockout been discussed? I wonder if this will have an effect on our juniors? Should they jump anyway even if they are ranked to go in the 1st round?

Even if there is a lockout from my understanding they still hold the draft.

I would bet almost anything though that no lock out will occur. To much money is made off of the NFL every year for a lock out to happen. Everyone saw what happened to MLB and NHL after their lock outs also and they do not want to risk a similar fate.
 
Mark Ingram's stock was insane last year, but I wouldnt be surprised if his draft status has cooled a bit. He hasnt looked great this year.
 
I don't think this is a complicated question to answer based of talent and NFL projections, the difficulty is in assessing any individual player's feelings about school or financial situation. Not knowing either finances or personal feelings I say this.

Descending order of draft value:
1-Marcel Dareus - Plays a very valuable position & a position of need. Some say he hasn't produced, I say bologna! His stats were better than the starters stats last year and without looking at this years stats I'm confident they're similar to last years. Take into account his nagging injury situation and having very little help along the LOS, scouts are drooling. His measurables are off the chart for a 3-4 DE as men his size aren't supposed to move the way he does. There are only 2-3 DL that could truthfully project higher than him in the draft depending on the team. A top 15 pick.

2-Julio Jones - Great year, matured, routes and hands improved this year. You simply aren't allowed to drop passes in the NFL. Pre season I figured how well he caught the ball would determine wether he went 10th or 25th & still feel similarly. I think he winds up in the teens, high or low it's just a guess anyway at this early stage. Again only 2 or 3 WRs teams could possibly be valued more than Julio, I expect Coach Saban to RAVE over Julio's work ethic etc. to scouts. One concern is it does in fact take him a few steps to get going as compared to other wideouts. He'll need to prove to scouts he can get off of top flight press coverage and be VERY physical in workouts.

3-Mark Ingram - A special talent for sure. However as the NFL has become more of a passing league RBs are devalued with few making the first round and fewer still making the top half of round 1. The backs that are taken high tend to be multi-dimensional (KR-pass catching machines-rush for big yards in top conferences - CJ Spiller types). Much of this works against Mark, but at the end of the day when the film is put on Mark Ingram has amazing vision, hips, power, pad level, quick feet, runs behind his pads well, body control, makes defenders miss in tight space as well as open space, EVERYTHING you want in a ball carrier plus is a high character guy coming from an NFL family. I figure somewhere past pick 22 and maybe the early 2nd round. Many teams will simply wait to pick up RBs as all-pros are routinely picked in rounds 3-7, but someone will place the proper value on his top 20 type ability and bite.

4A-Donta Hightower - Hard to believe but before the knee injury he was physically more gifted than Rolando, would have killed at the combine becoming another top 10-15 pick due to numbers. However his production just hasn't been great this year and he didn't shed blocks as well as a MLB needs to. Also his recognition wasn't there from time to time. (as a side note I hope CJ Mosley takes over the middle LB spot and Donta gets to slide to his old spot it would be GREAT for the team & him next year). He could possibly slip into the first round if he interviews well and test well in Indy, but he'd be best served coming back as he's probably a 2nd rounder.

5B-Mark Barron - Overall had a very solid year and was the QB of a very very inexperienced/young group that eventually led the nation in INTs. I don't think he'll test well in terms of speed, perhaps a high 4.5 for an NFL safety isn't special. It showed this year in a few spots. Overall athletic ability is top flight though and it shows when the film is put on. However his value as a quality player is still intact and next year he'll not be asked to do as much in the D scheme which will allow his play to 'appear' better and allow him to challenge for first round draft status. As it is now I have no idea of where he'd be valued, certainly high for his position but overall probably in the bottom half of the top 100 picks.

Others:
IF... IF Courtney Upshaw had a big year without the injuries he might have been a surprise to jump ship, but I don't see it happening, unless he just has a need as his measurables if recovered/healthy will be solid for a 3-4 LB.

Just my $.02 and it's worth less than that!

Schlante & ROll Tide,
Phillip
 
I think Julio and Marcel leave. Ingram stays. I'm not sure if he has graduated yet and I know his mom wants him to have his degree. Plus, she trusts Mark with Saban a lot more than some agent and coach in the NFL. Another year could boost his draft status.
 
i would be absolutely shocked if Ingram, Julio, or Marcel came back. Way to much money on the table. I think if Hightower has a good camp he's gone. Same with Barron. Everyone else comes back. The only way any others go is if they are having grade issues, etc...You always have a guy who surprises at the combine and grades out far better than what you expect and i think this year that could be Hightower. Barron would have been a lock for late 1st early 2nd had not been for his bad pursuit this season and final regular season game.
 
Mark Ingram's stock was insane last year, but I wouldnt be surprised if his draft status has cooled a bit. He hasnt looked great this year.
This was due to our poor passing game and average line play. It wasn't anything Mark did.
 
The one's I see going ....

Mark Ingram
Julio Jones
Mark Barron
Marcel Dareus
Donta Hightower

Possible to go......

Courtney Upshaw
Marquis Maze
 
Will it depend on the pending lockout? Ingram and Julio would be early first rounders so it would make sense for them.
 

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