Only reason I can think of is because Bama doesn't have the quarterback for it......maybe untill Phillip Sims comes in. Do you think once Sims gets in the game that we might start seeing the option. I mean, come on, you've the backs to do it with!
Why Bama doesn't run the option?
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Phillip Sims is a drop back pro style quarterback not a running quarterback. Sims isn't going to beat too many people getting to the edge. Saban signed him because he can throw the football.
I think the mods should consider suspending people who keep insisting that PS is a dual threat QB. Maybe a sticky or something. 
Let's break this down:
1. You need an option QB to run the option. Not a running QB, mind you, but an option QB.
2. We don't have an option QB.
That pains me, because with our RBs, I would love to see some wishbone action. But we don't have the right QB.
1. You need an option QB to run the option. Not a running QB, mind you, but an option QB.
2. We don't have an option QB.
That pains me, because with our RBs, I would love to see some wishbone action. But we don't have the right QB.
It's only because of his race that many think he is an option QB. I'll bet if we had "Steadman Shealy" on todays Bama team some would think he was a "Pro-Style" QB. Ah, the "good-ole" days!
a. personnel
b. does not tranlate to pros
c. Saban doesn't option
d. we are not the Air Force Academy
b. does not tranlate to pros
c. Saban doesn't option
d. we are not the Air Force Academy
We would need a Steadman Sheely type QB for one. Second, the defenses (like ours) are so big and fast in this modern era, if they stacked the box, it would take a tremendous offensive line effort to pull off. I do enjoy Paul Johnson's scheme over at Ga Tech but they have yet to make it to the big dance......
people are cutting Sims a little short thinking he cant run. he's not a scrambling QB however he's a pro style QB who has decent speed. and to answer the original question, why would we want to copy what others are doing when we won it all last season without it. I really hate people who look at what Auburn has done and wish we use some of their concepts. thats called smoke and mirrors. add that with one of the better dual threat QB's ever to play in college and Gus Malzahn and you are gonna give fits. we dont need it is the most simple way to put it IMO
Why do we need to? Our offense performed fine; our biggest problems were killer instinct (not sure if playcalling or execution to blame) and inconsistent OL play. I agree with the above posters who thinks we should do something about posters thinking PS is a dual threat QB. He is like GMac but with a stronger arm and AJ is like Brodie.
I also like how the OP, when referring to our RBs, said "you've got the backs," methinks we have a barner lurker.
I also like how the OP, when referring to our RBs, said "you've got the backs," methinks we have a barner lurker.
I think the mods should consider suspending people who keep insisting that PS is a dual threat QB. Maybe a sticky or something.
You got that right! Just because a kid is black doesnt mean he is a dual threat. Ely is more of a dual threat than any QB we have on the depth chart right now. Ask Urban how well the option is working for him now in the SEC? Cam Newton is just a freak of nature and we'll never see him again. With the speed of the defenses in this league its very hard to run any type of option.
sims isn't a running qb, just because your a black qb doesn't mean your a duial threat qb
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Why does someone always make it a race issue? I thought Sims was a bigger stronger player that in the event he did run the option he would be most likely to with stand any hits. What is wrong with you people? I asked a simple football question, not another freaking Cam thread, and all anybody wants to do is be a smartelic. And suggesting that a person be banned for talking football or asking questions about football is about as stupid as you can get!
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I don't think either McCarron or Sims is suited to run the option. McCarron is 6' 4" and maybe weighs 190 lbs soaking wet. I don't think he could take the continuous pounding from SEC linebackers. Sims, while a little bigger, is not a very mobile quarterback. His running ability wouldn't be enough to keep defenses honest.
Both, however, have big arms and are closer to the classic, drop-back style passers like Peyton Manning.
Since we don't have the players required to run the option, it makes sense not to run it. Our players are much more suited to the pro-style offense.
Well, the first question that has to be answered is what kind of option offense you want.
If you want a traditional option offense, you'll never see it again here or at any other school that matters, unless Paul Johnson happens to be the coach. Traditional option offenses cannot pass effectively -- this has been proven so many times over that it's barely worth discussing -- and a bigger problem looms: Namely, the speed of modern defenses, particularly at the safety and OLB spots, meaning you're not getting outside and thus, the effectiveness of the offense is cut by at least half.
Now, if you're talking about the spread-option, that's a different kettle of fish. For starters, the only team running a variant of it that had success this year was Auburn, and that's because of Cam Newton. Florida tanked. Mississippi State overachieved but was still an 8-4 program that folded up against three of the four big teams in the SEC West (UA, LSU, Arkansas, with Auburn being the exception). Defensive coordinators are catching up to this offense, quickly.
That leaves a spread-variant offense like Utah's or Oregon's, where the zone-read option is a critical part of the offense, but it bears more of a resemblence to the passing spread than the spread-option. Incorporating these facets of misdirection is possible within the Alabama offense, but it isn't part of Alabama's chosen scheme. Moreover, you will not see it become part of Alabama's scheme under Saban. He prefers a pro-style attack based in the passing spread, making Alabama's offense fundamentally identical to that of the New England Patriots.
The most common objection to anti-option talk is, "Well, Alabama has the talent to run it." While that is correct, if Alabama transitions to the option, the Tide won't have the talent for long. Four- and five-star recruits want no part of those offenses, as they do not prepare the players for the pros. You can get away with it if you're using the spread-option, but unless you just happen to find a freak like Newton, you're not likely to land a guy who can help you much as a passer. This was the knock on Tim Tebow. And once your talent equalizes downward, you're having to rely on scheme to beat the other guy, and that only lasts for so long.
In summary, a pure option attack is gone from Tuscaloosa and won't be coming back. Ditto the wishbone.
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