My take on the Texas matchup after viewing their film~!~(SMACK WARNING!)

texas1020

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Southern Cal has some good, knowledgeable fans but too much of their fan base jumped on the Pete Carroll bandwagon in 2002. In 2005 they were naive, thinking that the millennium had arrived and they'd never lose again. You're right, mstrat, many of them are still very bitter about that Rose Bowl game, as if they were cheated somehow. Maybe this season will serve as a wake-up call for them.

As for the Texans, I calculate that if they take Terrence Cody in the first round of the April draft and Lamarr Houston in the second, their problems against the run will be solved. And I've penciled in Anthony Dixon from Miss State in the third round. He should give them the big back they need. What do y'all think of Dixon?
 

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Southern Cal has some good, knowledgeable fans but too much of their fan base jumped on the Pete Carroll bandwagon in 2002. In 2005 they were naive, thinking that the millennium had arrived and they'd never lose again. You're right, mstrat, many of them are still very bitter about that Rose Bowl game, as if they were cheated somehow. Maybe this season will serve as a wake-up call for them.

As for the Texans, I calculate that if they take Terrence Cody in the first round of the April draft and Lamarr Houston in the second, their problems against the run will be solved. And I've penciled in Anthony Dixon from Miss State in the third round. He should give them the big back they need. What do y'all think of Dixon?
Dixon is an outstanding back. He is a load and very good speed for his size. He is truly one of the best in SEC and who knows how good he could have been on a better team with a top notch offensive line.
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Southern Cal has some good, knowledgeable fans but too much of their fan base jumped on the Pete Carroll bandwagon in 2002. In 2005 they were naive, thinking that the millennium had arrived and they'd never lose again. You're right, mstrat, many of them are still very bitter about that Rose Bowl game, as if they were cheated somehow. Maybe this season will serve as a wake-up call for them.

As for the Texans, I calculate that if they take Terrence Cody in the first round of the April draft and Lamarr Houston in the second, their problems against the run will be solved. And I've penciled in Anthony Dixon from Miss State in the third round. He should give them the big back they need. What do y'all think of Dixon?
Dixon is a very good back. He has a tendancy to pause in the hole a little to long trying to set up his blocks, but he gets a head of steam quickly and doesn't mind contact.
 

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Bama fans,

I've seen enough of the Texas posts on this thread to feel it is appropriate to give you some insight from experience of Arkansas fans with Texas fans:

If you are going to the game, be aware that many Texas fans are rude, crude and obnoxious before, during and after the game. They will not only do "friendly" smack talk, but they will hurl personal insults, refuse to let the other team's fans out of the row of seats, throw stuff and generally act like fools.

I've also been to several Alabama games at Tuscaloosa, and Bama fans have always been polite, welcoming and good sports even when Arkansas has won the game. This board is a great example of how knowledgeable and classy Bama fans are. So, RTR and Beat Texas! :BigA:
 

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Good post, mstrat. I do see that as the key matchup. Second is our OL against your DL...

Isn't it funny? It's so cliche, but again it all comes down the the battle in the trenches. No matter how much is happening on the peripheral, it always seems to come back to those guys with their hands down.
 
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Bama fans,

I've seen enough of the Texas posts on this thread to feel it is appropriate to give you some insight from experience of Arkansas fans with Texas fans:

If you are going to the game, be aware that many Texas fans are rude, crude and obnoxious before, during and after the game. They will not only do "friendly" smack talk, but they will hurl personal insults, refuse to let the other team's fans out of the row of seats, throw stuff and generally act like fools.

I've also been to several Alabama games at Tuscaloosa, and Bama fans have always been polite, welcoming and good sports even when Arkansas has won the game. This board is a great example of how knowledgeable and classy Bama fans are. So, RTR and Beat Texas! :BigA:
Honestly, this is something that concerns me a great deal. When it all comes down to it, I just want to be there to support my team and show my pride in them, win OR lose. I don't want to have to endure a bunch of crap.

Ah well, maybe my trips to NASCAR races will have me well prepared.

Of course, I'll have a lot of folks there backing me up. And if we win, it's going to be pretty hard for them to say much. :)
 

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I'll probably draw some people's ire with this comment, but I am hoping that the high price of tickets will keep out some of the riff-raff. Not that money insures class, but you know what I mean.
Don't worry, it usually does. I've always felt that's why the bowl game crowds are usually much more tame than a normal crowd. I for one appreciate that it keeps some of the idiots at home, so we will probably get burned together over this one Boston. ;)
 

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I'll probably draw some people's ire with this comment, but I am hoping that the high price of tickets will keep out some of the riff-raff. Not that money insures class, but you know what I mean.
Don't worry, it usually does. I've always felt that's why the bowl game crowds are usually much more tame than a normal crowd. I for one appreciate that it keeps some of the idiots at home, so we will probably get burned together over this one Boston. ;)
LOL!

Thanks, guys. :)
 

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Bama fans,

I've seen enough of the Texas posts on this thread to feel it is appropriate to give you some insight from experience of Arkansas fans with Texas fans:

If you are going to the game, be aware that many Texas fans are rude, crude and obnoxious before, during and after the game. They will not only do "friendly" smack talk, but they will hurl personal insults, refuse to let the other team's fans out of the row of seats, throw stuff and generally act like fools.

I've also been to several Alabama games at Tuscaloosa, and Bama fans have always been polite, welcoming and good sports even when Arkansas has won the game. This board is a great example of how knowledgeable and classy Bama fans are. So, RTR and Beat Texas!
Arkansas is one if 3 games I could see some in our fanbase engaging in this behavior. The other being OU and possibly A&M.

I've heard almost resounding compliments about our fanbase before/after the game from SC fans. I like Michigan fans too. Ohio State - ughh - that's who I'd worry about; especially because they will be in town as well a few days earlier for their game.

Texas fans that travel to these bowl games are NOT these types by and large. Hell, I'll be there and I know a ton of other Texas fans that will be there and none of them engage in this behavior.
 

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Arkansas is one if 3 games I could see some in our fanbase engaging in this behavior. The other being OU and possibly A&M.

I've heard almost resounding compliments about our fanbase before/after the game from SC fans. I like Michigan fans too. Ohio State - ughh - that's who I'd worry about; especially because they will be in town as well a few days earlier for their game.

Texas fans that travel to these bowl games are NOT these types by and large. Hell, I'll be there and I know a ton of other Texas fans that will be there and none of them engage in this behavior.
Good to hear, mstrat. Thanks.

I've been to events and things before and been subjected to some pretty heinous verbal slings. Not something I enjoy, because I stand there and take it. I'm not a disher.

And of course, I understand that every fan base has their "nuts". Would just be nice to enjoy this particular game (something I may NEVER get the opportunity to do again) the way it deserves to be enjoyed. :)
 

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Arkansas is one if 3 games I could see some in our fanbase engaging in this behavior. The other being OU and possibly A&M.

I've heard almost resounding compliments about our fanbase before/after the game from SC fans. I like Michigan fans too. Ohio State - ughh - that's who I'd worry about; especially because they will be in town as well a few days earlier for their game.

Texas fans that travel to these bowl games are NOT these types by and large. Hell, I'll be there and I know a ton of other Texas fans that will be there and none of them engage in this behavior.
Mstrat, we understand. There are opponents that bring out the worst in our fan base as well. I think we have a well behaved and very football knowledgeable fan base, yet when certain opponents come to town I see many folks stoop down level. I don't like it, but it happens and there is no getting around it. Some people tend to bring out the worst in each other. :)
 

texas1020

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Oh yeah, TCU is the "realest" mid-major out there. Everything is bigger in Texas, right? Even their mid-majors...Houston, TCU...lol.
Sorry my comment came across that way. Living in Texas, I tend to think of TCU as the "enemy", when I think of them at all. (The Fort Worth paper has been whining a lot lately, saying the Frogs are better than Texas, we're afraid of them, and so on.) I should have realized that it might strike an outsider as mindless Texas boosterism. My apologies.
 
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Oh yeah, TCU is the "realest" mid-major out there. Everything is bigger in Texas, right? Even their mid-majors...Houston, TCU...lol.

Sorry my comment came across that way. Living in Texas, I tend to think of TCU as the "enemy", when I think of them at all. (The Fort Worth paper has been whining a lot lately, saying the Frogs are better than Texas, we're afraid of them, and so on.) I should have realized that it might strike an outsider as mindless Texas boosterism. My apologies.
First let me say that's all crap about Texas being afraid of TCU. We all know they aren't afraid of them, just like Alabama though you stand nothing to gain by beating them. You could even end up slipping up and losing to them like OU did several years back. We lost to Utah, so I'm not talking bad about Texas, just saying it is a possibility.

I personally believe TCU is the program of the mid-majors that could sustain their success. My reasoning is simple, they play real football. Its not a gimmick offense, they don't rely on the statue of liberty, half back passes or hook and ladder stuff. They line up and play conventional football. If they moved up to Big 12 could they win consistently? They would probably fare better than Baylor does year in and year out. So I'm not saying they would be a power, but I think they could fit into a major conferenc better than the Boise, Utah, etc... Teams. The real problem for the Big 12 would be their inability to fill their own stadium, of course Baylor can't do that either. Your thoughts? I know, you guys hate them, but am I right about their sustainablity vs other Wac, Mac, etc... teams?
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mstrat that was a good post and believe it or not I do like Texas and not just the football team. They have some of the most beautiful women in the world roaming around and they are very easy to talk to.... :)

On the football game I have thought all along that this game much like our SECCG will be won or lost up front. OL/DL from both sides will be tested because both defensive co-ordinators are not going to sit back on thier heals and let the other get comfortable with what they do best. For BAMA we will blitz from everywhere and not let McCoy sit back there and pick us apart because he is good enough to pick anyone apart given time and his feet make him dangerous as well.
For Texas I really don't think you are going to play this one straight up (maybe at the start) but if BAMA starts to run for 4-6 yds at a whack there is no way Muschamps is going to sit back and let that happen all game. I do like the fact that we have faced some really good QB's and some very mobile ones as well so our defensive gameplan has been written already. The fact that you guys really have not faced a team who is determined to run the ball other than Nebraska (and really what option did they have??) so for you guys it is alot more to learn in the next few weeks while we just go over fundamentals and schemes you guys are having to gameplan for a running team~!~
Either way I expect both teams to come out and try to impose their will and it will all come down to the big uglys on both sides of the ball for both teams~!~
 

texas1020

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First let me say that's all crap about Texas being afraid of TCU. We all know they aren't afraid of them, just like Alabama though you stand nothing to gain by beating them. You could even end up slipping up and losing to them like OU did several years back. We lost to Utah, so I'm not talking bad about Texas, just saying it is a possibility.

I personally believe TCU is the program of the mid-majors that could sustain their success. My reasoning is simple, they play real football. Its not a gimmick offense, they don't rely on the statue of liberty, half back passes or hook and ladder stuff. They line up and play conventional football. If they moved up to Big 12 could they win consistently? They would probably fare better than Baylor does year in and year out. So I'm not saying they would be a power, but I think they could fit into a major conferenc better than the Boise, Utah, etc... Teams. The real problem for the Big 12 would be their inability to fill their own stadium, of course Baylor can't do that either. Your thoughts? I know, you guys hate them, but am I right about their sustainablity vs other Wac, Mac, etc... teams?
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I agree with everything you've said. Give the Frogs credit, they do play real football. They're very sound fundamentally, and they've instituted an excellent training program. They consistently take 2-star prospects and turn them into very good college players.

My understanding is that when the Big 12 was formed, UT lobbied to get the Frogs in instead of Baylor. I believe our AD thought they had more long-term potential than Baylor. As you probably know, however, Gov. Richards had gone to Baylor and told UT, A&M, and Tech "not without us you don't!" State politics is why Baylor's in the Big 12.

Actually, I don't hate TCU. But that's beginning to change. Randy Galloway recently wrote a column saying UT was afraid to play TCU, and he'd love to see them match up. He said he'd enjoy seeing Colt McCoy being carted off the field in a stretcher. (He later apologized, but heck....) Thing is, we played them just two years ago, when they were ranked 19th, and beat them 34-13.
 

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I agree with everything you've said. Give the Frogs credit, they do play real football. They're very sound fundamentally, and they've instituted an excellent training program. They consistently take 2-star prospects and turn them into very good college players.

My understanding is that when the Big 12 was formed, UT lobbied to get the Frogs in instead of Baylor. I believe our AD thought they had more long-term potential than Baylor. As you probably know, however, Gov. Richards had gone to Baylor and told UT, A&M, and Tech "not without us you don't!" State politics is why Baylor's in the Big 12.

Actually, I don't hate TCU. But that's beginning to change. Randy Galloway recently wrote a column saying UT was afraid to play TCU, and he'd love to see them match up. He said he'd enjoy seeing Colt McCoy being carted off the field in a stretcher. (He later apologized, but heck....) Thing is, we played them just two years ago, when they were ranked 19th, and beat them 34-13.
LOL! 1020, I just figured out your problem. You're reading Galloway!


TCU would have definitely been a better team for your conference than Baylor. Of course, there is always Rice.

I've always thought it would be really neat if SMU could be built back into a winner. How do you think folks would feel about the mustangs if June Jones can get the ball rolling, they start selling out their stadium and make the jump back up to big time football?
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mstrat that was a good post and believe it or not I do like Texas and not just the football team. They have some of the most beautiful women in the world roaming around and they are very easy to talk to.... :)

On the football game I have thought all along that this game much like our SECCG will be won or lost up front. OL/DL from both sides will be tested because both defensive co-ordinators are not going to sit back on thier heals and let the other get comfortable with what they do best. For BAMA we will blitz from everywhere and not let McCoy sit back there and pick us apart because he is good enough to pick anyone apart given time and his feet make him dangerous as well.
For Texas I really don't think you are going to play this one straight up (maybe at the start) but if BAMA starts to run for 4-6 yds at a whack there is no way Muschamps is going to sit back and let that happen all game. I do like the fact that we have faced some really good QB's and some very mobile ones as well so our defensive gameplan has been written already. The fact that you guys really have not faced a team who is determined to run the ball other than Nebraska (and really what option did they have??) so for you guys it is alot more to learn in the next few weeks while we just go over fundamentals and schemes you guys are having to gameplan for a running team~!~
Either way I expect both teams to come out and try to impose their will and it will all come down to the big uglys on both sides of the ball for both teams~!~
Some Longhorn fans ( a minority) look at Alabama, decide their defense is built to stop a power running game, and conclude they will have trouble against a West Coast - style offense like Texas'. Rubbish. On defense, Bama may be a little bigger than most, but they've got plenty of speed, too. Plus, Saban and Kirby Smart will put them into position to make plays. I have no illusions about that. But just as Alabama has not sacrificed speed for size, Texas has not sold out for speed at the expense of size. Our tackles for example are big enough, and Sergio Kindle is a vicious hitter.

But you're right, Texas will have to work on defending Alabama's style of offense. Given the long break between games, the Horns will have plenty of time to prepare. The question in these situations is always whether a team can approximate - not duplicate, but come close to - what they'll see after kickoff. The classic case is facing an option attack like Georgia Tech's. If you don't have an option guy yourself to put on the scout team, you just can't approach the speed at which a guy like Nesbitt operates. Once the shooting starts, it can take a while to adjust.

There's nothing radical about Bama's offensive scheme that would require a lot of adjustments, as far as I can see. It does strike me that they like to pull their blockers more than the average college offense... maybe you guys could point out some other aspects. The issue is, how close can Texas come to duplicating Ingram, Richardson, and Upchurch? Some of you will scoff at the question, but the fact is we've got some big, strong, fast young backs who might offer a reasonable facsimile.

From what I've seen of him, Muschamp will open with a base defense and see how things go. As you say, if the Tide is ripping off 4-6 yards a pop, he'll adjust. He'll bring a safety up, which will put pressure on our other DB's to stay with your receivers without much help. Ditto our LB's on your TE. With respect, I think we can keep Julio Jones reasonably in check, which is why in my mind I keep going back to Maze, Hanks and Peek. Your ability to move the ball well may depend a lot on them, just as our offense may depend heavily on Williams, Kirkendoll, and Buckner.
 

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