Question: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal?

[Airborne Tider]

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I log on every day to follow all of this. Every day I see 6 new pages of info so I figure there surely must be some kind of new information... but alas, there is not. Ya know, my friends uncle's father's sister who lives in a town 10 miles from KA's home and a killer pair of binoculars told me that Davis' meeting went really well last night. :biggrin:

I'm going to take a nap now... please wake me when there is something credible to consider... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... Oh, before I sign off... if I have a dream about where KA is going, should I post it here in hopes that someone can verify??

And "alas" you made the thread longer with another non-informative post. Thank you. Sleep well. RTR. :BigA:

 

[HKSpwrdZ]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

I say let him walk. If KA wants to go to Clemson then so be it. Sounds like he is negotiating the best offer. Sounds a little like the Rueben Randle situation at LSU last year. "Well my son will come play for you only if you meet these requirements if you dont we will go elsewhere"

Let him walk it is one player.

 

[BigGunn]

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Hear, Hear! Only a couple of more days left and we'll sail with a great class of coachables. Mr. Allen should get on board.

RTR!!!

 

[stump99]

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I agree that menzie is allens replacement and will be more of an impact in 2010.

 

[Tide Warrior]

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That is what I am saying. KA we would love to have you but not at the risk of the integrity of this program. Coleman for Stone, add Arie and either C Smith or D Menzie for Allen. I would be fine with that.

 

[SeattleBama]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

Say what you want, I have seen film on both Menzie and Allen. The breakdown is quite simple...Menzie is no Allen. Never will be.

For those posters who are trying to rationalize why it doesn't matter if we get Allen or not, please stop. If he does not come to the capstone, it is a huge loss. He is that good, and he is irreplaceable. It would take 4 Smiths and 5 Menzies to make up for him, and none of them would be able to take him one-on-one.

Now, with that said, we will still have an outstanding class...one of the best ever. But we should cry over spilled milk to keep us humble. For me, I will pour another glass and say here's hoping that we still land Keenan. Cheers.

 

[NYBamaFan]

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Say what you want, I have seen film on both Menzie and Allen. The breakdown is quite simple...Menzie is no Allen. Never will be.

For those posters who are trying to rationalize why it doesn't matter if we get Allen or not, please stop. If he does not come to the capstone, it is a huge loss. He is that good, and he is irreplaceable. It would take 4 Smiths and 5 Menzies to make up for him, and none of them would be able to take him one-on-one.

Now, with that said, we will still have an outstanding class...one of the best ever. But we should cry over spilled milk to keep us humble. For me, I will pour another glass and say here's hoping that we still land Keenan. Cheers.

I don't see it that way. Yes, it takes talent to win championships, but Saban is the kind of coach that can take a player that no one has heard of and turn him into a Heisman Trophy winner.

I'd like us to land Allen, but I won't miss a second's sleep if we do not.

 

[bamabryan]

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For those posters who are trying to rationalize why it doesn't matter if we get Allen or not, please stop. If he does not come to the capstone, it is a huge loss. He is that good, and he is irreplaceable. It would take 4 Smiths and 5 Menzies to make up for him, and none of them would be able to take him one-on-one.

No disrespect intended, but the Alabama football program is not going to crumble if we don't get KA. His future is the one riding on the choice he's going to make, not Alabama's.

I would love to see him at Alabama as much as anyone, but we will survive if he decides to go elsewhere.

 

[HITIDE]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

Say what you want, I have seen film on both Menzie and Allen. The breakdown is quite simple...Menzie is no Allen. Never will be.

For those posters who are trying to rationalize why it doesn't matter if we get Allen or not, please stop. If he does not come to the capstone, it is a huge loss. He is that good, and he is irreplaceable. It would take 4 Smiths and 5 Menzies to make up for him, and none of them would be able to take him one-on-one.

Now, with that said, we will still have an outstanding class...one of the best ever. But we should cry over spilled milk to keep us humble. For me, I will pour another glass and say here's hoping that we still land Keenan. Cheers.

Bama will be without the "irreplacable" services of RoMac next year but we will be fine without him. Someone will step in and be an adequate replacement for Ro and we have some very good WR recruits that could also be great so as not to miss KA that much.
KA would add another great dimension to our offense but we will still be good without him.......if he decides to go elsewhere. If he goes to Clemson, as least we won't be having to play against him each year.

 

[runtheoption22]

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Menzie is not necessarily coming in based on Allen's spot, guys.

Could be someone else.

 

[JeffAtlanta]

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For those posters who are trying to rationalize why it doesn't matter if we get Allen or not, please stop. If he does not come to the capstone, it is a huge loss. He is that good, and he is irreplaceable.

Of course losing KA would be a huge loss, but in college football no single player determines the success of the program.

In the Franchoine or Shula years, yeah, losing KA would have been a devastating turn of events and a real setback to the program, but now we're beyond that.

In today's world losing KA sucks and I'm sure the coaching staff isn't happy about it at all, but it isn't going to capsize the program or anything. Just a bump in the road and certainly nothing to cry over.

Also, It is not clear how getting emotionally upset about KA is going to keep us humble. I'm pretty sure that Saban is not getting complacent and of need of humbling.

Again, no disrespect or negativity toward KA at all - I wish him well wherever he goes.

 

[Tidetwin]

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I, for one, would love to have the two brothers playing at Bama and don't really see why folks have a problem with it in terms of threatening the integrity of the program.

Faced with the same set of circumstances and the opportunity to play with an older sibling, would anyone on this board (at 18) choose differently?

If the staff extends an offer to both then I think we can all find a way to live with it. Alabama football will find some way to muddle through.:smile:

 

[BAMARICH]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

Say what you want, I have seen film on both Menzie and Allen. The breakdown is quite simple...Menzie is no Allen. Never will be.

For those posters who are trying to rationalize why it doesn't matter if we get Allen or not, please stop. If he does not come to the capstone, it is a huge loss. He is that good, and he is irreplaceable. It would take 4 Smiths and 5 Menzies to make up for him, and none of them would be able to take him one-on-one.

Now, with that said, we will still have an outstanding class...one of the best ever. But we should cry over spilled milk to keep us humble. For me, I will pour another glass and say here's hoping that we still land Keenan. Cheers.

While you're entitled to your opinion, IMO it does NOT matter. Here's why. If you will look at last year's starters that won a NC, start counting up the guys like Corey Reamer, Javier Arenas, Eryk Anders, Mike Johnson, Drew Davis, etc. They all had one thing in common - none were very highly recruited out of HS, but in CNS's systems they not only found a niche, they contributed HEAVILY.

While I probably wouldn't have said it under CMS's regime, I'd rather have a 2-star kid with a willingness to work and contribute to a team than a 5-star guy who possibly is more interested in getting a scholly for his brother than play for a winner. Saban can and WILL do better with a lower-rated player over the long haul... just ask one of the above guys.

 

[TideJAM13]

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While you're entitled to your opinion, IMO it does NOT matter. Here's why. If you will look at last year's starters that won a NC, start counting up the guys like Corey Reamer, Javier Arenas, Eryk Anders, Mike Johnson, Drew Davis, etc. They all had one thing in common - none were very highly recruited out of HS, but in CNS's systems they not only found a niche, they contributed HEAVILY.

While I probably wouldn't have said it under CMS's regime, I'd rather have a 2-star kid with a willingness to work and contribute to a team than a 5-star guy who possibly is more interested in getting a scholly for his brother than play for a winner. Saban can and WILL do better with a lower-rated player over the long haul... just ask one of the above guys.

Great post/perspective. I couldn't agree more. Roll Tide!

 

[SeattleBama]

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Of course losing KA would be a huge loss, but in college football no single player determines the success of the program.

I am not saying that he will be the determining factor. He is an awesome player, period.

 

[ElkhartTider]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

While you're entitled to your opinion, IMO it does NOT matter. Here's why. If you will look at last year's starters that won a NC, start counting up the guys like Corey Reamer, Javier Arenas, Eryk Anders, Mike Johnson, Drew Davis, etc. They all had one thing in common - none were very highly recruited out of HS, but in CNS's systems they not only found a niche, they contributed HEAVILY.

While I probably wouldn't have said it under CMS's regime, I'd rather have a 2-star kid with a willingness to work and contribute to a team than a 5-star guy who possibly is more interested in getting a scholly for his brother than play for a winner. Saban can and WILL do better with a lower-rated player over the long haul... just ask one of the above guys.

Jeez.. thank you for posting this. Great post.

 

[SeattleBama]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

While I probably wouldn't have said it under CMS's regime, I'd rather have a 2-star kid with a willingness to work and contribute to a team than a 5-star guy who possibly is more interested in getting a scholly for his brother than play for a winner. Saban can and WILL do better with a lower-rated player over the long haul... just ask one of the above guys.

Nice quote. I would still rather have a 5-star that has a willingness to work and contribute to a team and happens to love his brother to death over a 2-star that needs to be spoon fed for 2-3 years.

But, we will take them however we can get them.

 

[SeattleBama]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

If he goes to Clemson, as least we won't be having to play against him each year.

Bingo.

 

[bamacon]

Re: Is Keenan Allen a soft verbal? (Put all discussion of Allen's visits in this thre

I am not saying that he will be the determining factor. He is an awesome player, period.

So is Tim Tebow. Did Alabama get him? No. Is he a once in a blue moon type talent? Yes. Did Alabama win a National Championship after destroying a Tebow-led Florida team in his last ever SEC game? I rest my case.

If one recruit is going to destroy your chances of success then you have more problems as a TEAM then you might realize. KA is a great player and we have watched great players fail to realize their full potential by going to schools who had a weak support structure or poor coaching etc. Alabama is now a program where truly talented players can now come and not only be challenged, but taught to embrace and develop the traits and habits needed for unlocking excellence. If that is not enough then so be it. Something tells me that if this door closes another will open.

 

[SeattleBama]

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If one recruit is going to destroy your chances of success then you have more problems as a TEAM then you might realize.

I am not saying that our success is dependent upon getting Keenan. It would be very, very nice to have him.