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Question: Anyone Have Any Combine News????

Good for Cody, just saw the local news and they commented on his weight loss.. glad to see he's motivated.
 
BigEasyTider said:
Exactly.

Each year there are approximately 60 five-star prospects. There are usually about 325 four-star prospects. And then there are approximately 5,000 prospects rated as three-stars and lower.

Understand those numbers now?
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You have to give it to the recruiting services. They do a decent job of evaluating pure athletic talent and potential. We're hard on them occasionally, but they really have no control beyond those two things.
 
BamaMTA06 said:
Looks like he weighed in at 354lbs.

Terrence Cody sheds weight for the NFL Combine | al.com
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.... @ 6' 4" .


http://www.nfl.com/
"Cody is a massive body with natural power as an interior run stopper. He can push the pocket effectively with excellent natural power but needs to develop his hand use and expand his pass rush package. He is disruptive penetrating the line of scrimmage versus the run and will command double teams often. He is limited outside the tackle box but has decent range for a player of his stature. Cody has improved his reads and ability to leverage the blocker but will likely improve more at the next level. He fits best as a nose tackle in a 3-4 defensive front and is more of a two down player at this point."
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Im_on_dsp said:
... Numbers alone without context are not worth much.
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Aw come on, man. Don't get all technical on us. Let us have some fun quoting meaningless statistics lifted completely out of context by other talking heads who are passing them off as insightful observations worthy of lots of compensation. Especially if we lead the non sequitur in with, "It just happens that ...."

See, if you phrase it that way, and emphasize the word "happens," with just the right increasing lilt in your voice, nobody can question it. I don't know exactly how that is, and haven't yet gotten an answer to the question that has a subject and a verb. But never you mind. It's my right, as defined on sports talk radio, to do do so.

Seriously, you're absolutely right. If more people thought that way, we'd have a much better country.
 
Re: Cody shows up 16 lbs. lighter at the combine

Great news. I am so glad he is taking care of business and he does not repeat AS's draft mistakes. It will be interesting if he can maintain it for Pro Day.

Way to go Mount Cody!!
 
Im_on_dsp said:
More interesting would be the percentage of each. 86 two-star players were invited but what percent of total two-star players is that. If 20% of the five-star players were invited and only 1% of two-star players then it would make sense. Numbers alone without context are not worth much.
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i agree. knowing the exact % would increase the value of the info. what gets me is that there are more unranked and 1 stars at the combine than 5 stars. i love the diamond in the rough stories out there and it is nice to see the lower stars find a way to excel. im not saying that star rank is not important- usually id say the recruiting services get it right, but it is cool to see a kid blossom into a great player when no one thought he would. kinda like javier arenas.
 
I watched the RBs and QBs do the 40 last night. CJ Spiller ran a 4.29 :eek2:, while Jahvid Best ran a 4.34. Sick, just sick. I don't recall Spiller having that speed, when we played Clemson. Is it just me??
 
gmart74 said:
i agree. knowing the exact % would increase the value of the info. what gets me is that there are more unranked and 1 stars at the combine than 5 stars. i love the diamond in the rough stories out there and it is nice to see the lower stars find a way to excel. im not saying that star rank is not important- usually id say the recruiting services get it right, but it is cool to see a kid blossom into a great player when no one thought he would. kinda like javier arenas.
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For those who do not know what the star system is (And Gmart, not calling you out but this is the most recent post on the matter):

The star system is not a gauge of talent. It is a gauge of immediate impact to a team. A 5 star player can sign out of high school and make a direct impact on any team. A 1 star player is projected to need years of coaching to make an impact... potentially his junior or senior year.

The reason you see a lot of 2 and 1 star players in the combine is because these guys are just now coming into their own. A 5 star might max out in college and not get really better. A 1 and 2 star player is just now entering that point of development, plus he's already shown that he is very coachable (Big, big issue there).

A 1 star player can be just as talented as a 5 star player... it's just a matter of how long that talent will take to show.
 
DiamondDust said:
For those who do not know what the star system is (And Gmart, not calling you out but this is the most recent post on the matter):

The star system is not a gauge of talent. It is a gauge of immediate impact to a team............
A 1 star player can be just as talented as a 5 star player... it's just a matter of how long that talent will take to show.
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thanks for the info. actually that is news to me. that really puts a different spin on the ranking system. i think i learn more every week on tidefans than i ever did in school :biggrin:

and d4t- yes, spiller has always been blazing fast. i dont think anyone looked good for clemson when we played them but spiller is indeed a gamebreaker.
 
Ro did 24 reps on the bench press (at 225 lbs. I think). Doesn't look like anyone else from Bama has lifted at the combine. Perhaps they're all waiting for the Pro Day.
 
WMack4Bama said:
Ro did 24 reps on the bench press (at 225 lbs. I think). Doesn't look like anyone else from Bama has lifted at the combine. Perhaps they're all waiting for the Pro Day.
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RO is not going to be doing any other workouts today. Just reported that he has been receiving treatment on his hammy since the National Championship.
 
DiamondDust said:
The star system is not a gauge of talent. It is a gauge of immediate impact to a team. A 5 star player can sign out of high school and make a direct impact on any team. A 1 star player is projected to need years of coaching to make an impact... potentially his junior or senior year.
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I think it depends on the source. Here's Rivals.com's explanation of star rankings:

  • [*]6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect
    [*]6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 200 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
    [*]5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 500 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
    [*]5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player
    [*]4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about
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Players can be ranked by pro potential, and I think Tyler Love was an example of that last year. Most analysts and experts believed he needed a year to put weight on and get stronger, but his potential was up there.

But, yeah, the 5-stars have often already "maxed out". This is especially true for offensive linemen, as many guys come out of HS both technically and physically behind, then develop in college in the S&C programs...

4 and 5 stars are most likely to imact a team early, while many of your 2 and 3 star prospects take a few years. The exception to this rule, is that many of your 4 and 5 star prospects play for teams with fewer opportunities early on because of depth. Your 2 and 3 stars often sign with teams like Vandy, MS State, etc., that have more opportunities for freshmen. Look at the Freshman All-American teams vs. the All-American teams. The Freshmen teams are littered with 2 and 3 star players from Akron, Central Florida, and Houston, while the All-American teams are more often dominated by 4 and 5 star players from Texas, Florida, and Alabama.

I've looked at the data, and from 2003-2006, about 30-35% of each position in the Rivals100 made the pros. The two exceptions:
ATH - about 50%
OL - about 10%


Kind of rambled here, so sorry...
 
derek4tide said:
I watched the RBs and QBs do the 40 last night. CJ Spiller ran a 4.29 :eek2:, while Jahvid Best ran a 4.34. Sick, just sick. I don't recall Spiller having that speed, when we played Clemson. Is it just me??
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And that's why a 40 time should not be the gauge of athleticism that it is when it comes to football. Spiller has tons of straight ahead speed, break away speed. He never got to use it on us because he never got in the open. His cutting slowed him down enough to be tackled. On the other hand, look at Arenas' 40 time. Not something to the NFL is looking at in a positive manner, but I'd say his quickness and ability to change directions while keeping what speed he has helps him a lot. Another example is Ro's 40 time vs. that of a much speedier back like Spiller. Ro can cover sideline to sideline vs. a much faster back because he can dissect a play and know where it's going. Same thing with Demeco a few years back.
 
LSU, which has a cool dozen alums in Indy. With that many next-level players on the roster, shouldn’t you accomplish more than a Capital One Bowl loss? Heck, Troy finished its year at the Emerald Bowl. Draw your own conclusions.
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