Question: Anyone Have Any Combine News????

peteswell4

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I watched the RBs and QBs do the 40 last night. CJ Spiller ran a 4.29 :eek2:, while Jahvid Best ran a 4.34. Sick, just sick. I don't recall Spiller having that speed, when we played Clemson. Is it just me??
Spiller is ridiculously fast. He has sprinter speed that translates to the football field. He really didn't show off any speed in the running game when we played them, but he did look pretty fast when he returned that kickoff for six. After all, Clemson was the first team to face the revamped Tide!!! They just seemed shocked that whole game to me.
 

RollTide1224

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I'm pretty sure Spiller is one of the best track and field sprinters in the country additionally he is an excellent football player. At one time I believe he was the national champion in one or several track events so his speed has never been questioned. The only thing that really slowed him down this year was a nagging turf toe.
 

BEATtutorsee

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Spiller is ridiculously fast. He has sprinter speed that translates to the football field. He really didn't show off any speed in the running game when we played them, but he did look pretty fast when he returned that kickoff for six. After all, Clemson was the first team to face the revamped Tide!!! They just seemed shocked that whole game to me.
I was just about to bring that up. He looked plenty fast to me on that kick return. He won't be an every down kind of back in the NFL IMHO (unless he becomes more durable) but he'll be a lethal 3rd down back and return man.
 

BEATtutorsee

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On a side note, Ben Tate had a very impressive combine. He put up some of the best numbers from the RB group across the board. Still doesn't make him better than Mark though. :biggrin:
 

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I watched the RBs and QBs do the 40 last night. CJ Spiller ran a 4.29 :eek2:, while Jahvid Best ran a 4.34. Sick, just sick. I don't recall Spiller having that speed, when we played Clemson. Is it just me??
He was pretty fast when he returned a second half KO against Bama in '07 . 95-96 yards :eek2: JMO but I do not view Spiller as being a durable , every down NFL back .



Below is a stance for public consumption ..........
For those who do not know what the star system is (And Gmart, not calling you out but this is the most recent post on the matter):

The star system is not a gauge of talent. It is a gauge of immediate impact to a team. A 5 star player can sign out of high school and make a direct impact on any team. A 1 star player is projected to need years of coaching to make an impact... potentially his junior or senior year.

The reason you see a lot of 2 and 1 star players in the combine is because these guys are just now coming into their own. A 5 star might max out in college and not get really better. A 1 and 2 star player is just now entering that point of development, plus he's already shown that he is very coachable (Big, big issue there).

A 1 star player can be just as talented as a 5 star player... it's just a matter of how long that talent will take to show.
...... which is not so .



First , there is no such thing as a 1* player . What this usually means early on is that the recruiting outlets saw where a new name signed up for a camp or combine and this is all they know about the player . Many of these types are eventually deleted from the prospect databases . When it's late in the process , it means the services have no idea as to who the prospect is but he has either recently received a couple of quality D1 offers or some visits from BCS level coaches . So , the player is given 1 star and added to the database instead of offering up an honest or lengthier answer .

Second , a 2* player is somewhat known and may have even been seen in person at a camp or combine but has few to no high-end offers and the recruiting outlets have no film available to even evaluate the prospect . Again , a # is assigned in place of an honest or lengthier answer .

That's the truth behind the lack of stars for some prospects and the real reasons why .


Also , sorry to burst the company line but , the star system is indeed intended to guage talent . Anyone who says differently probably has a rather lengthy record of misses with an even longer list of excuses . Guaging talent is the very reason the systems were created in the first place .

To say "It is a gauge of immediate impact to a team." is laughable because no 2 two teams are the same when it comes to how a prospect would fit in a particular system and would not be able , in any way , to account for the # of players ahead of a particular prospect at his position . Yet the #'s/stars given are "across the board" ratings . I guess when someone chooses this line of thought , if anyone actually believes it , they could always say every prospect who was a bust , by their own assigned rating , @ "school A" would've been a 5* @ "school B" and vice-versa . Makes for a nice "out" though :D

There is a lot of manure in the recruiting game and , as always , I'll be more than happy to answer any and all questions as to the meaning behind any of it .
 
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Vegas4Bama

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Is it true that Ro Mac will "not" participate in some of the different types of events because he felt like since he was #1 in the draft (for LBs) that the only place to go would be down???

I came in on the tail end of a discussion on the NFL Network with the guys talking about him; but did not get the whole thing about him.

Anyone know anything??:BigA:
 
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CrimsonPhoenix

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Is it true that Ro Mac will "not" participate in some of the different types of events because he felt like since he was #1 in the draft (for LBs) that the only place to go would be down???

I came in on the tail end of a discussion on the NFL Network with the guys talking about him; but did not get the whole thing about him.

Anyone know anything??:BigA:


*Hamstring injury. Rolando McClain sits out NFL Combine drills | al.com


"INDIANAPOLIS — Alabama LB Rolando McClain will not participate in any NFL Scouting Combine drills Monday, he told NFL Network analyst Charles Davis.
Originally, it was believed that McClain wasn’t hurt. However, McClain’s agent told NFL Network’s Mike Mayock that the linebacker has been receiving treatment on an injured hamstring twice per day since last month’s Senior Bowl. The agent also said McClain has undergone two MRIs.
McClain told Davis that he would do all drills at Alabama’s March 10 pro day."
 

TexasTideFan

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I think Cody had 40 reps on the 225 bench press, one of the best numbers for DL. The NFL Network guys are referring to him as a "power pig" in a complimentary way.
I heard that he put up some good reps on the bench which he should considering his body weight.

I saw him do his drills. He actually looked very athletic which I have a feel surprised a few scouts. Bottom line, Cody did nothing but improve his stock at the Combine. The downside is that there are only going to be a select few teams looking at him on their boards and thats those that run a 3-4 and need a space eating NT.
 

peteswell4

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Kareem just ran a 4.41 and 4.46. I think that solidifies him as a first round pick. The main question about him was his speed. I think Javy ran a 4.52 and then pulled a hammy on the second run.
 

37bamagreats55

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LOL - some of you guys come up with some pretty elaborate stories....
According to the NFL.com website (and several other reputable ones, too) Cody didn't participate in the bench press at the combine and will wait till Pro Day.

NFL.com Blogs Combine


It's the very last sentence of the article. Additionally, it explains how Javy tweeked his hammy toward the end of his first 40-yard dash and will have to sit out the rest of the workout and will try to be back at Pro Day.
 

Boo Radley

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LOL - some of you guys come up with some pretty elaborate stories....
According to the NFL.com website (and several other reputable ones, too) Cody didn't participate in the bench press at the combine and will wait till Pro Day.

NFL.com Blogs Combine


It's the very last sentence of the article. Additionally, it explains how Javy tweeked his hammy toward the end of his first 40-yard dash and will have to sit out the rest of the workout and will try to be back at Pro Day.
Well, that blogger is either misinformed or flat out wrong. I saw the NFL Network video of him on the bench press.
 

Airborne Tider

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LOL - some of you guys come up with some pretty elaborate stories....
According to the NFL.com website (and several other reputable ones, too) Cody didn't participate in the bench press at the combine and will wait till Pro Day.

NFL.com Blogs Combine


It's the very last sentence of the article. Additionally, it explains how Javy tweeked his hammy toward the end of his first 40-yard dash and will have to sit out the rest of the workout and will try to be back at Pro Day.
Pretty elaborate stories? They said in the video Cody did 44 reps. I'll believe those the guys doing the reporting and the guys on the board who saw the video over some blog thanks.

Also in draft news Kareem may have become a first rounder today. He ran 4.41 and 4.46 in the 40. And amazingly USC's Taylor Mays ties the 40 yard dash record held by Chris Johnson, granted it is still unofficial. He ran an unofficial 4.24. Freak of nature.
 

37bamagreats55

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I saw the video and from what I've seen, he was doing all the running drills on the field (40, cone drills, etc).. no bench press...

toward the end of the video, most of the analysts spoke very positively about Cody's skills and the one commentator toward the very end of the video did say Cody put up 44 reps in the bench press... I think that commentator is mis-informed - Petrus from Arkansas, I think, put up the 44 reps....
 

deltatider

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Pretty elaborate stories? They said in the video Cody did 44 reps. I'll believe those the guys doing the reporting and the guys on the board who saw the video over some blog thanks.

Also in draft news Kareem may have become a first rounder today. He ran 4.41 and 4.46 in the 40. And amazingly USC's Taylor Mays ties the 40 yard dash record held by Chris Johnson, granted it is still unofficial. He ran an unofficial 4.24. Freak of nature.
I thought one of the knocks on Mays was speed. I guess he answered that one. Wow!!!!!
 

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