Boise State needs a good old fashioned MTAQ butt whupping!

[BigAl5833]

So because Boise is less talented than us they should get to play a weaker schedule and still be considered an elite team? I didn't see the SEC take it easy on us when we were "less talented".... Florida State used to be a nobody, than they started playing anybody, anywhere for the same amount of money as big colleges would pay for regular games. Boise demands either a home and home or huge amounts of guaranteed cash for their games and then complains that no one will play them. There is no upside to beating Boise, if you win you did what you were supposed to, if you lose you get blasted (see Utah 2008). Thus, they need to act like that is what they are until they move into the elite. If we have the choice of playing Boise in a one home game series and we have to pay them the same amount that we pay a D-II school or we can play Penn State in a home and home and pay the normal amount I would hope we would chose Penn State. Teams schedule out of conference match ups all of the time with the big boys (Alabama, V-tech, Clemson, USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Miami) i doubt they are scared to play Boise State, but that is what all their fans want to say, I think that is what has made me dislike them. Earn some respect before demanding huge amount of cash or asking for a home and home.

If they go undefeated and beat someone for the NC then yes they deserve to be mentioned like the rest of the AQ are.

 

[mjstide]

If they go undefeated and beat someone for the NC then yes they deserve to be mentioned like the rest of the AQ are.

We will have to agree to disagree than. It is pretty easy to get up for 1 or 2 games a year. I watched last year when they had an "off" game against tulsa, fact is that if that is say Arkansas instead of tulane, they would have been blasted. We have to fight through a tough schedule year in and year out and we have to find a way to win our off games against good teams not terrible ones. I dont blame them, there really is nothing they can do about their conference, but dont complain to me just because I do not believe that they should be mentioned with the rest of the big teams.

 

[PacadermaTideUs]

Darren Evans.
They will have Ryan Williams and David Wilson, as well.
The Hokies will field one heck of a backfield next year.
I hope they lay the wood to BS University.

Boise State opens with VT on Sept 6th and they play Oregon State on Sept. 25th. I'm hoping both of those will be losses. I'm not counting on it, but I'm certainly hoping.

I know VT has a number of key players returning in 2010, but I'm not sure about Oregon State.

As others have said, if they get by VT, they have the inside track for the BCSCG. The only other team who will challenge them is OSU, and BSU should be favored pretty strongly in that one. I personally think they'll be a slight favorite against VT, and wouldn't at all be surprized to see them win it. True, VT has some solid returners, but BSU has - countem: 21 (!) - returning starters from last year's undefeated team, having only lost one of their starting corners.

I don't think BSU can play big-boy football for a full season, but they face VT right out of the gate, September 6th. They should be fresh, and superior talent (VT) should still have some wrinkles to iron out. It's my belief that inferior talent (BSU) has the best shot at an upset early in the season. Rust has a way of leveling the playing field.

I hope they lose, because I also think that though they're pretty good, they're a good bit more full of themselves than their strength warrants. But if I had to lay money now, I'd say that they make it to the big game and get soundly spanked there. I sure would like for us to get the opportunity to smack them back to reality, but unlike BSU, we have a hellacious schedule, and I'm not so sure that we'll make it through unscathed.

 

[Tide1986]

Actually, most acknowledge their lack o strength but what gets them upset is when people can't comprehend that they can't just jump to the PAC 10, SEC, Big VII or any other major conference. Also, the idiocy that some believe that if they did join a major conference that they would not see an increase in talent.

Has being in the SEC made MSU and UK equivalent to the top teams in the SEC?
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[dWarriors88]

Has being in the SEC made MSU and UK equivalent to the top teams in the SEC?
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Vandy sells more tickets than BSU.

 

[Tide1986]

Got to disagree with this. No matter what conference you play in it is tough to run the table. What they did last year was impressive. They didnt beat a schedule like Bama did, but they also do not have the talent we do. If they run the table next year and win the NC it will show they prove to be talked about with the rest of the nation in terms of BCS and NC shots. At least until Petersen moves on to bigger and better things.

You should really check out the records of the other WAC teams...Yoda says, "abysmal they are."
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[Redwood Forrest]

Boise reminds me of that yapping little toy dog of a kind I can't pronouce. YAP, YAP, YAP, YAP, YAP, YAP, day and night. Any outside noise, no matter how faint, would set the YAPPING little devil off for several minutes.

I love dogs, but I HATED that YAPPING little devil and I was glad when someone stole the YAPPING little creature. Good ridance. I wish someone would steal that YAPPING little Boise.

 

[KrAzY3]

They have a reason to think that people are afraid of playing them, ESPN has even tried to set up a top team to open up against them in 2011 and no one would step up. ESPN even had an article on how many teams turned them down. I have seen many Bama fans say that they did not want to play them because it would be a no win situation.
I visit the Boise Board often and the majority of them respect us. Yes, as with all scout boards, they're nuts and some over the top posters but most are good people.

Still not buying it... we've all had this discussion here.
A: Boise State makes particular demands when it comes to scheduling games.
B: Boise State used to go on the road against the SEC and stopped that practice, in large part I suppose because they always lost.

Boise State wants teams to come into their camouflaged field and play them in front of 30,000 fans or give them a giant payday. They never had trouble scheduling big road games when they didn't have ridiculous demands.

If they win the VT game, they will have the inside track on the BCSCG. Next season is their opportunity to prove that they belong, so I'll reserve judgement until then...

Boise State has a ridiculously easy road to the BCS and are in a position of basically having a one game season. Virginia Tech doesn't have the luxury. For Boise State the game is basically on the level of Alabama vs. Florida last year. For Virginia Tech it will be like their game against Alabama last year, except Boise State isn't nearly as inspirational a opponent.

Boise State is a sham and will continue to be a sham. I showed how they tweaked their schedule before to pave the road to undefeated seasons. Now all they've done is tweak it a little more to pave the way to the BCS championship game. They still play against WAC teams, they're still afraid to schedule SEC teams on the road anymore, or consistent top level out of conference opponents and they still (for some reason either side doesn't explain) are not in the MWC. Until they are willing to use every single out of conference game to schedule the best possible opponents, I will not take them seriously. Basically, they should stop Boise Stating their schedule..

Boise State still has a lot to prove... like being able to beat any SEC team.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Actually, most acknowledge their lack o strength but what gets them upset is when people can't comprehend that they can't just jump to the PAC 10, SEC, Big VII or any other major conference. Also, the idiocy that some believe that if they did join a major conference that they would not see an increase in talent.

I actually agree that they face an almost insuperable obstacle in leaping to a major conference. Their location and the size of their stadium just about make it impossible. What I don't agree with is that a jump to a major conference is going to work some miracle with their recruiting. Even if they could join the PAC 10, they're still the new kid on the block and they're still getting 3* diamonds in the rough, plus a few 4* with character or grade problems. IOW, they'd settle into the same role Wazzu has played for years. I've lived in the mountain west and I understand the psychology, but, if they had to play in the SEC, they'd be lucky to be above .500. Nobody is "scared" to play them. It's just that the return is just not there. It's either play in a 31K stadium or pay them a million. AFAIC, they can stay on the outside, yelping like a Chihuahua...

 

[IH8Orange]

There are plenty of reasons that no team wants to play BS.

That field is a hunk of nasty, eye-killing, blue BS.

Playing the "big dog" from a conference full of chihuahuas is glutton for punishment BS. So, we get to slug it out game to game with teams like Penn State, Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Ole Miss and Auburn while BS muddles around with Idaho, New Mexico State, San Jose State, Fresno State, Utah State and Louisiana Tech. They pretty much get to scrimmage from week to week while we get beaten up. That's BS.

I hate it for them, but it wouldn't be in the best interest of a major program to play BS. Most programs are in the habit of doing what's best for them and not to help someone else.

They could probably help their cause somewhat if they'd rip up that bush-league BS from their field and get something softer on the eyes.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

They could probably help their cause somewhat if they'd rip up that bush-league BS from their field and get something softer on the eyes.

They think it gives them an advantage, and perhaps it does give them a very small one. Nevertheless, they've certainly earned the name BS-U...

 

[bamabryan]

Got to disagree with this. No matter what conference you play in it is tough to run the table. What they did last year was impressive. They didnt beat a schedule like Bama did, but they also do not have the talent we do. If they run the table next year and win the NC it will show they prove to be talked about with the rest of the nation in terms of BCS and NC shots. At least until Petersen moves on to bigger and better things.

You've got to be kidding? :conf2:

They are not as talented as Alabama is (and a lot of other teams for that matter), they play in a much, much weaker conference, but until Peterson moves on they deserve to be in the national championship conversation? I don't understand that logic at all. :conf2:

Talent alone does not win football games. U$C proved that last year. Boise State is very well coached. I give them that. They have a very good football program, but I think what conference you play in means a lot, a whole lot. They will hardly be challenged in their conference and it's not a strong conference at all. I was hoping they would have to play Florida in the Sugar Bowl this past season. Florida would have destroyed Boise State and we all know what Alabama did to Florida.

I wish Alabama could go play their schedule next year and have to get up to play two or three real football teams over the course of the season. That's what Boise's schedule amounts to, playing two or three games. If Alabama could do that we could all be making reservations in Arizona right now.

 

[Mamacalled]

What were the terms of the proposed games? If they were going to be in Boise, you can forget about it. Their stadium is about 31,000, no elite team is going to play there, not enough money or tickets for their fans. Or same deal if Boise wanted a home-and-home, their stadium is just too small. If they want to be big time, they need more than a glorified HS stadium.

One game deal anywhere.

 

[Mamacalled]

So because Boise is less talented than us they should get to play a weaker schedule and still be considered an elite team? I didn't see the SEC take it easy on us when we were "less talented".... Florida State used to be a nobody, than they started playing anybody, anywhere for the same amount of money as big colleges would pay for regular games. Boise demands either a home and home or huge amounts of guaranteed cash for their games and then complains that no one will play them. There is no upside to beating Boise, if you win you did what you were supposed to, if you lose you get blasted (see Utah 2008). Thus, they need to act like that is what they are until they move into the elite. If we have the choice of playing Boise in a one home game series and we have to pay them the same amount that we pay a D-II school or we can play Penn State in a home and home and pay the normal amount I would hope we would chose Penn State. Teams schedule out of conference match ups all of the time with the big boys (Alabama, V-tech, Clemson, USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Miami) i doubt they are scared to play Boise State, but that is what all their fans want to say, I think that is what has made me dislike them. Earn some respect before demanding huge amount of cash or asking for a home and home.

And yet we are paying more for one of their conference's weakest teams than what they are asking. ESPN even offered to put up the money.

 

[Mamacalled]

I actually agree that they face an almost insuperable obstacle in leaping to a major conference. Their location and the size of their stadium just about make it impossible. What I don't agree with is that a jump to a major conference is going to work some miracle with their recruiting. Even if they could join the PAC 10, they're still the new kid on the block and they're still getting 3* diamonds in the rough, plus a few 4* with character or grade problems. IOW, they'd settle into the same role Wazzu has played for years. I've lived in the mountain west and I understand the psychology, but, if they had to play in the SEC, they'd be lucky to be above .500. Nobody is "scared" to play them. It's just that the return is just not there. It's either play in a 31K stadium or pay them a million. AFAIC, they can stay on the outside, yelping like a Chihuahua...

Until this past year their average star rating for thier recruiting class was 2.3. If they played in the PAC 10, they would have more exposure which would equate to more talent. Currently, they play n a conference that has equal talent and yet they dominate. I still find it hard that people praise Fresno as a tough team when Boise punds them year in and year out.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Until this past year their average star rating for thier recruiting class was 2.3. If they played in the PAC 10, they would have more exposure which would equate to more talent. Currently, they play n a conference that has equal talent and yet they dominate. I still find it hard that people praise Fresno as a tough team when Boise punds them year in and year out.

I just don't agree that they'd get a magical upgrade in talent, given their stadium and where they play. They'd be sort of the poor cousin of Washington State. We just don't agree. Nothing wrong with that...

 

[CrimsonBeast]

Quick question...what does MTAQ stand for?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Quick question...what does MTAQ stand for?

Our filters won't allow it, although it comes from CNS. "Make Their A.. Quit."

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

One game deal anywhere.

One game doesn't give a team its bona fides! Considering the Smurf Turf Gang's schedule, why would anyone agree to play them in a one off game? They have 9 weeks of scrimmages and 3 tough games a year. Is it any surprise that they perform well in the 3 games?

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

And yet we are paying more for one of their conference's weakest teams than what they are asking. ESPN even offered to put up the money.

Would you rather us play those blue bonnet posers or Penn State? I can't wait for the Penn State game. With our schedule + a potential SECCG we're not playing 2 tough ooc games, nor should we.