Link: NCAA Report on USC Coming Down This Week

He must give an impressive interview or something else that the rest of us can't see.:)


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A fist full of dollars?
 
I for one don't think the ncaa will much of anything to USC. They are their golden child. At the most they will get a slap on the wrist. If that is all they get the other schools ought to get together and get out of the ncaa and form a new governing body.:BigA:
 
I for one don't think the ncaa will much of anything to USC. They are their golden child. At the most they will get a slap on the wrist. If that is all they get the other schools ought to get together and get out of the ncaa and form a new governing body.:BigA:
At one time Bama was the "Golden Child" of college football..And that didn't help us one bit with the ncaa..I think USC is about to get hammered hard..Just to much public knowledge of the wrong doings at USC..
 
At one time Bama was the "Golden Child" of college football..And that didn't help us one bit with the ncaa..I think USC is about to get hammered hard..Just to much public knowledge of the wrong doings at USC..

Agreed. The PTB enjoy the fall from grace as much, or more than, the ascent...
 
May justice be swift and brutal. May the hammer fall hard. May the sons and daughters of Troy weep.

Sorry, got caught up in the medieval moment.

May justice be fickle. May the hammer strike putty. May the sons and daughters of Troy shrug their shoulders.
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I may be one of the few who think this is possible. The case has been too public for it to be swept under the rug and USC was a repeat offender when the infractions started. The basketball infractions USC submitted may be accepted but no way do they let the football program off with a slap on the wrist.

This is precisely why the iconoclasts of the football world want USC to escape. Only a mind-numbing decision such as this has a prayer of shaking colleges' faith in the sanctity of the NCAA. If USC gets a pass, colleges may finally consider if it's time to create another college affiliation entity. Leave the NCAA to the small schools.

As noted on another thread, Alabama isn't impacted either way by whatever is done to USC. Sure, our feelings may be hurt that we were hammered and they weren't. We'll get over it. As someone (bayoutider I think..?) astutely noted on another thread, Alabama could actually be slightly adversely affected if USC is hammered. He noted that if USC lacks scholarships, elite recruits may end up playing for SEC rivals rather than going to USC. Clearly not a great outcome for us.

The NCAA is devious but not stupid. USC will be given stiff sanctions. The real game will be played during the appeals process. The spotlight will be elsewhere. That's when the NCAA can give USC considerable relief and not have to deal so much with pesky fairness-and-equality questions.
 
I think you are on to something Fossil. USC get hammered and knows they can appeal. All they have to do in devloping an appeal is to look what we did in our appeal and do the complete opposite. By doing this, most sanctions would be dropped and USC would agree to a few minor violations so the NCAA saves face.
 
I may be one of the few who think this is possible. The case has been too public for it to be swept under the rug and USC was a repeat offender when the infractions started. The basketball infractions USC submitted may be accepted but no way do they let the football program off with a slap on the wrist.

From what I've heard from people close to the situation, this is pretty much what USC is expecting...
 
I may be one of the few who think this is possible. The case has been too public for it to be swept under the rug and USC was a repeat offender when the infractions started. The basketball infractions USC submitted may be accepted but no way do they let the football program off with a slap on the wrist.

I agree, bayou. I think the NCAA knows its reputation is on the line (what little is left of it). This case has been so publicly debated, they know if they only slap USC on the wrist that what little credibility they have goes out the window.
 
I think you are on to something Fossil. USC get hammered and knows they can appeal. All they have to do in devloping an appeal is to look what we did in our appeal and do the complete opposite. By doing this, most sanctions would be dropped and USC would agree to a few minor violations so the NCAA saves face.

There was a change in the appeals committee right after the Oklahoma appeal creating a power struggle within the ncaa. Earle can explain it better than I but I think it was a major reason we got no relief in our bookgate and it will be the reason USC will not get much if they appeal.
 
I kind of feel that what happens to U$C this time around will not really matter that much, so long as they get put on probation and the NCAA follows them closely. Because given his spoiled brat upbringing and complete disregard for any rules, you can bet your 401K that Kiffie is going to cheat. And you can bet that he is going to get caught. So when Kiff gets caught, what will the NCAA do then? My guess is that they will have to impose the DP or lose all creditability.
 
I am ignorant of any win-robberies by the NCAA of any team but Alabama and Florida State. I certainly cannot remember when they took any wins away from a Big Ten school, or USC, or anyone like that.

Until I see differently, my perception of NCAA justice is that only teams (schools) that are out from Birmingham or have a coach from Birmingham get wins taken away. If that is paranoia, I solemnly admit to it. So be it.

My hunch is that the NCAA waves a big stick, makes a lot of commotion over this, and USC comes out with some scholarships taken away.

Big tradition schools -- known today by the term 'elite' -- don't go down because of anything the NCAA does. Maybe that is why the NCAA keeps whacking away at Alabama. It is a game within itself. We win national championships, they find something to give us a whipping about, and they pull out the razor strap when they do it.

USC will get switched, and that's about it.
 
There was a change in the appeals committee right after the Oklahoma appeal creating a power struggle within the ncaa. Earle can explain it better than I but I think it was a major reason we got no relief in our bookgate and it will be the reason USC will not get much if they appeal.
Basically, the changes significantly raised the standard for overturning sanctions. There has to be blatant abuse of discretion or procedural errors.

Of course, the sanctions over the Means case would still warrant an appeal, as the infractions committee admitted that they broke their own rules.
 
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RT @BryanDFischer Carroll on if he would be surprised if the NCAA sanctioned USC: "I would be surprised if there are (sanctions)."

Just saw this posted by Bruce Feldman on Twitter. So Pete would be surprised if there were sanctions. Hmmmm is that why you bailed to Seattle then?
 
BFeldmanESPN
RT @BryanDFischer Carroll on if he would be surprised if the NCAA sanctioned USC: "I would be surprised if there are (sanctions)."

Just saw this posted by Bruce Feldman on Twitter. So Pete would be surprised if there were sanctions. Hmmmm is that why you bailed to Seattle then?
Yah, Carroll's already in 'I'm astonished' mode in a lame attempt to look innocent...
 
It is quite interesting... if the NCAA is fair with USC, USC will get hammered. In turn, the landscape of the Pac-10 could end up dramatically more difficult. This could be the end of USC as a elite football team, period.
I have to disagree with you on that one. USC is one of the handful of programs that will be back. May take them a while, and they certainly won't do it under Kiffin, but they'll be back.

And I rarely wish ill will on anyone, but I hope the NCAA hammers them.
 
I have to disagree with you on that one. USC is one of the handful of programs that will be back. May take them a while, and they certainly won't do it under Kiffin, but they'll be back.

And I rarely wish ill will on anyone, but I hope the NCAA hammers them.

I think you are right. Even if they are hammered USC will return to prominence, probably under new leadership, as they have before. USC has had its dark years before and made a return. This case is moneywise about as close to the Albert Means case as we have seen. But the NCAA will never hand out another death penalty like they did to SMU. SMU is still trying to recover from that bullet.
 

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