Link: NCAA eyes booster's claims Miami players took cash

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I'm guessing more denial of involvement and the usual amount of stupidity you always hear from them.

What was funny to me as I drove in to work this morning listening to Bill King, he made the statement that Miami fans don't deserve this. Heh. They absolutely deserve every bit of it and more. And your boy Luke probably ought to be in the joint with him.
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Miami has never had but three fans and they aren't that gung-ho. That is why I'm with Hamilton on not thinking this is a 10. Nobody cares what happens to Miami.
 

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I guess that's where the pic of him in the Corvette came from....thus game is fun. All joking aside what's to keep a recruit from taking improper benefits from one school and going to another? Nothing, that's what.
And just because Cyrus signed with Bama or Trent had on a suit and ate dinner near a booster doesn't major infraction make. These are all far fetched allegations that hack journalist make to make names for themselves. They don't have to prove it. Charles Robinson is a different story. There isn't much anyone can say. Miami is about to feel the wrath or the NCAA is a joke. I tell you one thing, universities should really start worrying if Robinson starts sniffing around your program.
 

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Colin Cowherd just made some ridiculous comments on ESPN radio about UA. Said Bama should be shaking in their shoes after hiring these two Miami coaches. So we are guilty by association Colin? :mad: This is exactly how rumors and innuendo take off. People all around the country will hear bits and pieces of this garbage and automatically assume that we are the next team to be in the cross-hairs of the NCAA. Double :mad::mad:
 

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Colin Cowherd just made some ridiculous comments on ESPN radio about UA. Said Bama should be shaking in their shoes after hiring these two Miami coaches. So we are guilty by association Colin? :mad: This is exactly how rumors and innuendo take off. People all around the country will hear bits and pieces of this garbage and automatically assume that we are the next team to be in the cross-hairs of the NCAA. Double :mad::mad:
Thats why I dont listen to ........
 

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Thats why I dont listen to ........
I normally don't either. Especially when I found out one of his former producers was a barn grad. I only tuned in today to hear what was being said about the U, and idiot Cowherd pops off with his usual garbage. He is the radio equivalent of Kevin Scabarnsky.
 

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I normally don't either. Especially when I found out one of his former producers was a barn grad. I only tuned in today to hear what was being said about the U, and idiot Cowherd pops off with his usual garbage. He is the radio equivalent of Kevin Scabarnsky.
You are correct:wink:
 

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Colin Cowherd just made some ridiculous comments on ESPN radio about UA. Said Bama should be shaking in their shoes after hiring these two Miami coaches. So we are guilty by association Colin? :mad: This is exactly how rumors and innuendo take off. People all around the country will hear bits and pieces of this garbage and automatically assume that we are the next team to be in the cross-hairs of the NCAA. Double :mad::mad:
if you listen, he usually makes well-thought points. Now, "shaking in ther shoes" may be dramatic (he's a radio host, afterall), but there is a legitimate point to be made that there should at least be an aura of concern coming from Tuscaloosa. Not that there is anything, but you can't be too careful.

What would you have UA do? Ignore it? Or be concerned and investigate it?
 

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if you listen, he usually makes well-thought points. Now, "shaking in ther shoes" may be dramatic (he's a radio host, afterall), but there is a legitimate point to be made that there should at least be an aura of concern coming from Tuscaloosa. Not that there is anything, but you can't be too careful.

What would you have UA do? Ignore it? Or be concerned and investigate it?
Exactly. It gives the NCAA a reason to make a trip to Tuscaloosa, and that is one thing none of us wants. If the NCAA digs deep enough, they can find something ANYWHERE. I'd prefer them to stay away from Tuscaloosa.
 

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Oh I definitely would want them (UA) to be concerned, but did you hear the entire context of what he was saying? Cowherd was spouting off about how every major conference had a team that was being investigated, except for the SEC. He insinuated that the SEC was not a clean conference (which is obviously true), and sounded to me like he was trying to lump Bama right in there with these other scandals.

Big difference in being concerned and 'shaking in my shoes'. I'm 'concerned' about a great many things, but I see no reason to start panicking until we know all of the facts. Rest assured that CNS and UA compliance know a lot more about these two coaches than we do, and I'm sure they will take whatever action, if any, is necessary.
 

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Some of the players involved are starting to speak out on it.

Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans (Allegations)

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“It is what it is, man,” Johnson told John McClain of the Houston Chronicle. “I really don’t have much to say about it. The guy’s in trouble, and he’s trying to take everybody down with him. I’m really not worried about it.”

Johnson didn’t want to get into details about the subject.

“I wasn’t in the clubs too much when I was in college, so I don’t know about that,” Johnson said. “You kind of get upset about it, but at the same time, you can’t control what anybody says. He knows and I know what really happened. It’s over. It’s done with. The NCAA is handling it, and we’ll just move on.”
And Eric Winston (who is not named in the allegations) had this to say

“I don’t really know [Shapiro]. I know the name a little bit. I couldn’t pick him out of the lineup,” Winston said. “I think it’s unfortunate when a guy gets around kids and a program and intends to do harm to it.”
 

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Shapir & Miami remind me of the old saying, 'beauty is skin deep but ugly is to the bone'. This stuff cuts 'to the bone' in a very ugly fashion.

As always, because it's what the empirical evidence supports:
A) There is NEVER any means of accurately measuring the ncaa's response be it slap on the wrist for murder or 30 years hard labor for jay walking.
B) The ncaa goes after and gets who they want to, no matter what. They are investigator, judge, jury, and jailer. Which reminds me of another saying, 'nothing corrupts like power, and absolute power corrupts absolutely'.
C) Never ever forget points A or B because the ncaa is less reliable than a 35 year old Pinto in a rear-end collision.

No matter how 'dazzling' this case may be it still not much worse than what's gone on in several Big10/12 basketball programs involving head coach's involved in academic fraud, gifts of cash/vehicles, etc. It only slightly eclipses cases such as Tressel knowingly playing ineligable players. I don't care how you cut it, booster violations no matter how 'flashy' are a level below coach/institutional indiscretions. Oooops Miami had coach's shuttling players to and fro. ;) My point still stands though, booster violations are a notch below institutional violations though the ncaa rarely makes the distinction.

My prediction: Miami loses 1 scholarship and Alabama's probation period is extended by 2 years per former Miami coach hired!
 

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The only thing that bothers me is all the Barn fans that are accusing UA now on their boards of illegally recruiting Cyrus K, because he was considering Miami while Stoutland recruited him there. Its not like his brother was already here and the family loves UA long before Cyrus came here. A bunch of idiots over there. I think they still forget they are still under investigation themselves.
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Please don't ever mentioned what those idiots think about us. what they perceived or how they feel about us is none of our business!!
 

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I agree with those who assert coaches Pannunzio and Stoutland must go. No problem if the exit is via a severance package... but they most go. Alabama cannot afford to be anywhere near the radioactive fallout from Miami.

So is this unfair to the coaches, if in fact they're innocent or only guilty of minor violations? Perhaps. It doesn't matter. They will be a distraction for the duration of the Miami investigation. Their ability to recruit will be severely compromised. During televised games, the cameras will pan to these two coaches while the announcers babble about the Miami problems and leave audiences wondering if these coaches at Alabama could mean future NCAA problems for Bama.

Alabama doesn't have the luxury of waiting for the Miami investigation to run its course. Mal Moore must act quickly and decisively. As we know, the NCAA doesn't operate like a court of law. Hence Alabama cannot afford to get caught up in the "innocent until proven guilty" conundrum.

Make a quick decision and execute.
 

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And Emmert has chimed in with this

If the assertions are true, the alleged conduct at the University of Miami is an illustration of the need for serious and fundamental change in many critical aspects of college sports. This pertains especially to the involvement of boosters and agents with student-athletes. While many are hearing about this case for the first time, the NCAA has been investigating the matter for five months. The serious threats to the integrity of college sports are one of the key reasons why I called together more than 50 presidents and chancellors last week to drive substantive changes to Division I intercollegiate athletics.
 

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No matter how 'dazzling' this case may be it still not much worse than what's gone on in several Big10/12 basketball programs involving head coach's involved in academic fraud, gifts of cash/vehicles, etc. It only slightly eclipses cases such as Tressel knowingly playing ineligable players. I don't care how you cut it, booster violations no matter how 'flashy' are a level below coach/institutional indiscretions. Oooops Miami had coach's shuttling players to and fro. ;) My point still stands though, booster violations are a notch below institutional violations though the ncaa rarely makes the distinction.

My prediction: Miami loses 1 scholarship and Alabama's probation period is extended by 2 years per former Miami coach hired!
I'll have three of what you're smoking. ;)

Not sure I'm following you on this one...
Well, it was evidently a weak attempt at humor.

Fanuzzi, if you don't remember, switched his commitment to UA from Miami at the same time Robert Marve switched his commitment from UA to Miami. The old QB switcherooni. Being as though the U was paying everybody at the time, and Marve's name has surfaced as part of this, I attempted a joke by saying I hope we didn't overpay to get Fanuzzi, because if he was a U commit at the time you had to figure he was getting paid too. And he turned out to not be the best QB we've ever had.
 
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OK..this is getting ridiculous. Bryan Fischer is reporting

By the way, Donna Shalala knew about what was happening re: NCAA & didn't tell her new AD, football or basketball coach.
And the Associated Press just dropped this bomb

Shapiro's access to Miami program from June '08 thru 2010 approved by former UM AD Hocutt, now w/Texas Tech
 
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