Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - and...no charges to be filed...

Re: Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - update: DNA match found

I highly doubt going for the BCS championship would pass as a reasonable extraordinary exception. FSU would be tarnished as an institution. This is a case of rape.
 
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To all the legal eagles. Does the states attorney wait till after the ACC championship to charge him? Then FSU gets to the BCSNCG and JW gets the Heisman.

I heard ESPN report that he would not file unless there was a likelihood of conviction. If so, that sounds to me that he is looking for an excuse not to bring charges.

"...looking for an excuse not to bring charges. " Ya` think? The cop, while totally out of order when he said it to the girl`s attorney, was right when he said, " This is a football town". IMHO, JW is a loooong way from not playing. IF.. IF he`s guilty, I hope I`m wrong.
 
Re: Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - update: DNA match found

Regardless of what happens FSU is going to lose in this situation. If charges are filed and they don't suspend him they look like a football win at all cost insitution. If they do suspend him ,they were aware of the allegations and took no proactive steps to protect their image. If charges are not filed, FSU is perceived as an school that protects a sexual offender because he is the star QB of the football team.

I would not let my daughter go to a school that has allowed these things to happen. I also wonder what the university judicial process is. I know UA will address this internally by suspending or expelling the offender as well as a criminal issue.
 
Re: Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - update: DNA match found

Wouldn't you agree that the known evidence against Winston would have been enough to cuff and charge any other normal citizen? I'd hate it if a vigilant had to do the state's job for them in this case.

it all depends on the physical evidence. if it's nothing more than a she said he said situation, probably not. if there is any physical evidence to corroborate her story, then no doubt. also, i don't know about the law in florida, but in virginia you can introduce evidence that would otherwise be hearsay, such as if the victim told other people about it in close proximity to the alleged incident.

i represented a husband accused of raping his estranged wife and the only evidence the state had was her statement...they never did a physical exam or anything else.

one of the ways you get to trial when a case begins in district court is to have a preliminary hearing. if the court finds probable cause they send it to the grand jury. but even when a general district judge does not find probable cause, the prosecutor can bring the charge by what is called "direct indictment" to a grand jury. the state has a number of ways to bring a person to trial.

in the case i tried, the judge basically looked at the prosecutor and said "what kind of case is this? do you anticipate any other evidence?" and the prosecutor told the judge that was it. the judge dismissed the case and the prosecutor wisely chose not to directly indict.

so, in a long-winded answer...sure, the police could have arrested him on her allegation, but still not charged him. or they could have charged him and let the process run its course.

if all they have is her word, it's not much of a case. it's my understanding that a rape kit was done, so that would normally be the deciding factor; however, if the prosecutor has seen that and still is trying to decide what to do, i would guess that the kit proved inconclusive.

that being said, i still have no idea what this prosecutor is talking about regarding a likelihood of conviction. it sounds like he's making every effort NOT to charge winston.
 
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...highway patrolman (who had been given an award by President Clinton even) turned out to be a Jerry Sandusky.
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The award from Clinton should have foreshadowed the outcome ... must have come with a wink and a nod. (no political reference intended; rather a light hearted comment about Clinton's extra curricular activities) :cool2:
 
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I had the priviledge of taking my mother in law to the hair dresser yesterday and waiting on her. A young lady with curlers and donning an AU 'T' shirt sat beside me and showed me her magazine with a big pic of Cam Newton of the cover and said 'he was going back to school @ au to get his degree', I asked 'why reckon he didn't get it at the 3 colleges he attended while playing football' and she said 'he was more interested in making money then but now he has plenty so he can focus on his education'. The young lady then, went on to tell me that Cam was turned in by a Bama fan, just like Jameis was turned in by a Bama fan because Bama is afraid they will have to play FSU for the BCSNC and don't want Jameis to be in that game and anyway that mess happened over a year ago and all the DNA is dried up by now but the Bama fans keep giving her money to keep her bringing it up. I know now why Ol Gus has that bewildered look on his face all the time, I had that same look on my face.
 
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I had the priviledge of taking my mother in law to the hair dresser yesterday and waiting on her. A young lady with curlers and donning an AU 'T' shirt sat beside me and showed me her magazine with a big pic of Cam Newton of the cover and said he was going back to school @ au to get his degree, I asked why reckon he didn't get it at the 3 colleges he attended while playing football and she said 'he was more interested in making money then but now he has plenty so he can focus on his education'. The young lady then, went on to tell me that Cam was turned in by a Bama fan, just like Jameis was turned in by a Bama fan because Bama is afraid they will have to play FSU for the BCSNC and don't want Jameis to be in that game and anyway that mess happened over a year ago and all the DNA is dried up by now but the Bama fans keep giving her money to keep her bringing it up. I know now why Ol Gus has that bewildered look on his face all the time, I had that same look on my face.

My sympathy, taking your mother-in-law to the beauty parlor. A double hit. :)

Sorry to drift off topic, but it seems like Gus was the one who arranged whatever happened to get Cam to auburn. I'm guessing Gus was very familiar with the point you made...Cam was all about making money when he was in college.

Now, back on topic, what a mess at FSU. I'd like to see Bama wind up playing Ohio State in the title game. It would be a shame for FSU to miss the game over this mess, but then it seems like they dug their own hole.
 
Re: Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - update: DNA match found

I had the priviledge of taking my mother in law to the hair dresser yesterday and waiting on her. A young lady with curlers and donning an AU 'T' shirt sat beside me and showed me her magazine with a big pic of Cam Newton of the cover and said 'he was going back to school @ au to get his degree', I asked 'why reckon he didn't get it at the 3 colleges he attended while playing football' and she said 'he was more interested in making money then but now he has plenty so he can focus on his education'. The young lady then, went on to tell me that Cam was turned in by a Bama fan, just like Jameis was turned in by a Bama fan because Bama is afraid they will have to play FSU for the BCSNC and don't want Jameis to be in that game and anyway that mess happened over a year ago and all the DNA is dried up by now but the Bama fans keep giving her money to keep her bringing it up. I know now why Ol Gus has that bewildered look on his face all the time, I had that same look on my face.

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Meggs told ESPN.com on Wednesday that he probably will not take the case before a grand jury, saying his office would ultimately decide whether it believes it has sufficient evidence to charge Winston with a crime.

Is it typical to skip the grand jury stage?? Does it say anything about the case?


I'm not stupid," Meggs said. "It is a young man whose life is in a fish bowl right now. I think about that. There's also a young girl whose life has been turned upside down, and her life will never be the same, either. We look at it and say, 'Which one of those is most important?' Both. It is a search for the truth, and the truth is kind of elusive sometimes.


It sounds like the SA has his head on straight. Let's hope the truth is not too elusive to him -- whatever it is.
 
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As I've said... let's be patient and wait. Seems we've swung a bit towards the innocent side today.
 
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The family of the alleged victim says in a statement released to media outlets late Friday night that, "To be clear, the victim did not consent. This was a rape."

That does not seem like the public statement from someone who is backing down or looking for a quiet payday. just my opinion
 
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That does not seem like the public statement from someone who is backing down or looking for a quiet payday. just my opinion[/QUOTE]

Agreed!
 
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My sympathy, taking your mother-in-law to the beauty parlor. A double hit. :)

Sorry to drift off topic, but it seems like Gus was the one who arranged whatever happened to get Cam to auburn. I'm guessing Gus was very familiar with the point you made...Cam was all about making money when he was in college.

Now, back on topic, what a mess at FSU. I'd like to see Bama wind up playing Ohio State in the title game. It would be a shame for FSU to miss the game over this mess, but then it seems like they dug their own hole.

The young lady also said that 'any time a boy and girl have been out drinking and the girl goes up to his dorm room, she knows they ain't going up there to play no tiddly winks, she deserves everything she got'. I had to leave some of the graphic language out but you get the gist. I am most surprised at the talk that goes on in those beauty parlors, I just shut my eyes, pretended sleep and listened. As we headed out the door, my mother in law asked why my face was so flushed. Sorry to get off topic.
 
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The young lady also said that 'any time a boy and girl have been out drinking and the girl goes up to his dorm room, she knows they ain't going up there to play no tiddly winks, she deserves everything she got'. I had to leave some of the graphic language out but you get the gist. I am most surprised at the talk that goes on in those beauty parlors, I just shut my eyes, pretended sleep and listened. As we headed out the door, my mother in law asked why my face was so flushed. Sorry to get off topic.

We don't even know where the alleged rape occurred yet. For all we know her roommate could have been dating one of Jameis' teammates and he brought Jameis along to her apartment. That'd actually explain the witness situation.
 
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No matter what the reaction to this case is exposing fsu fans for the disgusting trash they are. Did I mention I hate them?
 
Re: Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - update: DNA match found

I had the priviledge of taking my mother in law to the hair dresser yesterday and waiting on her. A young lady with curlers and donning an AU 'T' shirt sat beside me and showed me her magazine with a big pic of Cam Newton of the cover and said 'he was going back to school @ au to get his degree', I asked 'why reckon he didn't get it at the 3 colleges he attended while playing football' and she said 'he was more interested in making money then but now he has plenty so he can focus on his education'. The young lady then, went on to tell me that Cam was turned in by a Bama fan, just like Jameis was turned in by a Bama fan because Bama is afraid they will have to play FSU for the BCSNC and don't want Jameis to be in that game and anyway that mess happened over a year ago and all the DNA is dried up by now but the Bama fans keep giving her money to keep her bringing it up. I know now why Ol Gus has that bewildered look on his face all the time, I had that same look on my face.

She needs a good tongue lashing!


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Re: Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - update: DNA match found

No matter what the reaction to this case is exposing fsu fans for the disgusting trash they are. Did I mention I hate them?

And if it were AJ, poke, or say Julio when were barreling toward our first title in forever, what percentage of our fan base would have acted the same way?
 
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