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Saban signs multi-year extension w/Bama, shorthorns on suicide watch...

TIDE-HSV said:
What I heard which gave me concern was accurate and reliable. If you listen to the Phil Savage interview carefully, you'll see what I meant. However, as I said above, as it went on, I realized that he had put it behind him. And I posted that. I had come out strongly that he was going to stay. When I received the other information, I got uncomfortable out on the limb, so I had to do what I did. I hate to think of how I would have been crucified, if I had stayed with the position of 100% staying and he had moved in spite of his comments. Therefore, I had to post what I did. Same circumstances arise again, I'll do the same. I had worried what might happen, if CMB stayed another year. There's no doubt that, if he leaves, they'll make another run at Saban. I think now, barring bad developments inside our AD, he is ours until retirement. Let us remember that hindsight is always 20-20...
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I don't have a problem with what you did. I knew when you said it, it wasn't a 100% deal for us anymore but I still felt like we were the heavy favorite. You don't make statements like he and his wife continually made, not just once but several times, if your heart isn't truly set on staying. I felt the only chance Texas had, granted they can't seem to get their act together and releave Mack of his job, but their only chance was if something had changed in the UA power structure in the past year that upset CNS. When it was revealed that was not the case at all, I no longer worried.
 
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crimsonaudio said:
I was told it's short for 'tea sippers', based on the the idea that the shorthorns consider themselves 'above' others, thus sitting about sipping tea like British royalty.
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This. Aggies also like to say it came about during WWII when A&M was a military academy. The story is that they all went to war while the Texas folks stayed home sipping tea.
 
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quixoft said:
This. Aggies also like to say it came about during WWII when A&M was a military academy. The story is that they all went to war while the Texas folks stayed home sipping tea.
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I've heard that it refers to that and the "Hook-em" sign with the extended pinkie...
 
Lol, watching CBS pregame Army/Navy coverage and the disgust with which Tim Brando read the news bulletin about Nick Saban's contract extension was palpable. I love it when something ticks off Tim Brando.
 
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quixoft said:
This. Aggies also like to say it came about during WWII when A&M was a military academy. The story is that they all went to war while the Texas folks stayed home sipping tea.
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So help me out also in understanding how the Aggies feel like UT took their college site or land....the 40 acres. I hear that had something to do with the underlying resentment as well.
 
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skipster63 said:
So help me out also in understanding how the Aggies feel like UT took their college site or land....the 40 acres. I hear that had something to do with the underlying resentment as well.
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The Texas constitution laid out that there should be a university of first class for the state of Texas. This was intended to be, and named in the constitution as the University of Texas and it still is today. However, A&M was actually established as the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas, a land grant college(Morrill Act I believe), a few years before UT was established. So it wasn't the land. The 40 acres in Austin was set aside by the Texas Congress and chosen as the site for the University of Texas in accordance with the Texas constitution. This was AFTER A&M was already established. It was also set in the constitution that Texas AMC was to be a branch of the University of Texas system.

Aggies simply don't like it that we are considered and named in the constitution as the "University of Texas", the first class public university in Texas. Hence they call us tu or Texas University because they refuse to acknowledge that we are the University of Texas and the top public school in the state. The funny thing is that most of us that went to the University of Texas don't refer to it as such or as UT. We just say we went to Texas.

Don't get me wrong, A&M is a great school education wise and they should have a better athletics history than they do. They definitely have a very, very odd culture though. My grandfather, father, uncle, and sister all went to Texas A&M and my grandfather was a professor there for a time. I'm the black sheep of the family.

I do like to rib them though and tell them that I would have gone to A&M but I figured I had already gone to high school once so I chose Texas.
 
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quixoft said:
The Texas constitution laid out that there should be a university of first class for the state of Texas. This was intended to be, and named in the constitution as the University of Texas and it still is today. However, A&M was actually established as the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas, a land grant college(Morrill Act I believe), a few years before UT was established. So it wasn't the land. The 40 acres in Austin was set aside by the Texas Congress and chosen as the site for the University of Texas in accordance with the Texas constitution. This was AFTER A&M was already established. It was also set in the constitution that Texas AMC was to be a branch of the University of Texas system.

Aggies simply don't like it that we are considered and named in the constitution as the "University of Texas", the first class public university in Texas. Hence they call us tu or Texas University because they refuse to acknowledge that we are the University of Texas and the top public school in the state. The funny thing is that most of us that went to the University of Texas don't refer to it as such or as UT. We just say we went to Texas.

Don't get me wrong, A&M is a great school education wise and they should have a better athletics history than they do. They definitely have a very, very odd culture though. My grandfather, father, uncle, and sister all went to Texas A&M and my grandfather was a professor there for a time. I'm the black sheep of the family.

I do like to rib them though and tell them that I would have gone to A&M but I figured I had already gone to high school once so I chose Texas.
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Thanks for for this an really all your insights into "all things Texas". You have been first class through this whole....uhm...."process". My wife is an Aggie, my son goes to Bama and my daughter goes to Texas. My wife wants my stepson to go to A&M, his now deceased father wanted him to go to Texas but I seemed to have swayed him to Bama. Needless to say the dynamics in this family get quite interesting. A&M is odd. My grandfather thought about going there but it was an all male school at that time and that was not very appealing. I just enjoy all of college football and all the UT/A&M stuff is just amusing.
 
dWarriors88 said:
Question.

if coach is staying till at least 2021, how long will we have the Kirby Smart on our sideline? Because Coach Smart is also a very important piece of the puzzle, also you could throw in Coach Cochran too.
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I'd be shocked if CNS is our coach until 2021. I don't see CNS coaching until he is 70, although I'd love to be wrong. I'd guess he may coach another 4 or 5 years.
 
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B1GTide said:
Thanks - just saw that story. Of course, he very well realizes that there was something that he could have done to stop the "Saban to Texas" speculation, but it was not in his best interests to do so in the middle of contract negotiations.
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In principle I agree with you. However, Saban did nothing to begin the speculation and from his viewpoint nothing had changed since his previous statements that he was happy at Alabama and planned to end his career here. Therefore, there was no need to issue yet another statement refuting the rumors. If people didn't believe his prior exhortations, they weren't likely to believe a new one either, so nothing gained by making one.

Granted, it obviously caused some angst amongst some portions of the fanbase, but that was basically self-induced by those doing the hand-wringing. I don't believe the speculation was needed to enhance whatever contract negotiations that may or may not have been ongoing. At the end of the day I firmly believe we, Alabama, would give him whatever he deemed necessary to to keep him here, provided that was his intent, and he knew that as well as we did. I am glad it is all over though...
 
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