Virginia Attorney General orders in-state tuition for children of illegals

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Acting without a statutory basis, AG Mark Herring has decided that children of illegals get in-state tuition at state schools in the Commonwealth.
Attorney General Mark R. Herring of Virginia told the state’s public colleges and universities on Tuesday that children brought to the United States illegally and raised here, the so-called Dreamers, qualified for in-state tuition.

Children of non-Virginian members of the Armed Forces serving in Virginia, however, do not qualify for in-state tuition.
 
"Dura lex, sed lex." Or not.
Acting without a statutory basis, AG Mark Herring has decided that children of illegals get in-state tuition at state schools in the Commonwealth.


Children of non-Virginian members of the Armed Forces serving in Virginia, however, do not qualify for in-state tuition.

from virginia domicile guidelines
F. Military dependent children.

1. When determining the domiciliary status of a student whose parent is a member of the military, the institution should always first determine if the military parent or the nonmilitary parent is a Virginia domiciliary. A military parent may reside in Virginia but choose not to claim Virginia as his domicile and has the right to choose another state as his home state for taxation of military income purposes.

a. Paying taxes to Virginia on all military income is evidence that the military parent is a Virginia domiciliary resident and should be evaluated with all of the applicable factors to determine domiciliary intent. To pay taxes to Virginia on military income, the military member must change the Leave and Earnings Statement to authorize the withholding of Virginia income tax.

b. Active-duty military members do not have to satisfy the one-year requirement for the existence of the factors showing domiciliary intent, nor do dependent children claiming Virginia domicile through them. A dependent child of a military member claiming domicile through the military member becomes eligible for in-state tuition as of the term that begins immediately after the military member has taken actions to establish domicile in Virginia.

c. If the military parent claims another state as his income tax situs while stationed in Virginia, the parent is not a Virginia domiciliary.

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B. Military in-state tuition rates for certain military members not domiciled in Virginia.

1. Certain military personnel are eligible for the in-state tuition rate despite not being domiciled in Virginia. To be eligible, the personnel must be:

a. Active duty military members, or

b. Activated guard or reservist members, or

c. Guard or reservist members mobilized or on temporary active orders for six months or more, and

d. Either stationed or assigned by their military service to a work location in Virginia (including the Pentagon) Temporary deployment away from Virginia does not disqualify the student as long as the member remains attached to a unit whose home base is located in Virginia, and

e. Residing in Virginia. Such residence may include base, rental, or other temporary housing. Temporary deployment away from Virginia does not disqualify the member as long as a residence is maintained in Virginia.

2. Eligible students are eligible for the in-state tuition rate.

3. Eligibility under this provision ceases at such time as any the conditions in subsection B 1 of this subsection are no longer met.

4. Service members determined to be domiciled in Virginia are not subject to the restrictions of this provision.
 
children of service women and men can receive in-state tuition. read what i posted above. and yes, I'm glad this decision was made to allow these children greater access to higher education.

So parents break the law and their children get rewarded? I'm okay with this if the parents are deported, and a tax audit is done. The IRS should give out fines and penalties just like the would in any other case. The taxes not paid are due before the child can attend school. If the parents do not have the money all assets should be sold to pay as much as possible.
 
Wading through the language of the tax code, it seems military kids do get in state tuition if their parents claim Virginia as their home state for tax purposes.


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children of service women and men can receive in-state tuition. read what i posted above. and yes, I'm glad this decision was made to allow these children greater access to higher education.

I think that you are assuming a lot with the use of the word "higher" education.

So, if I lived in North Carolina, I pay out of state fees.
If I am a legalized citizen from Mexico, I pay out of state fees.
But if I am an illegal from Mexico, I pay in-state fees

And you think this is a good idea?
 
Isn't this a state issue? I had to ask because I cannot remember and I lost my Glenn Beck checklist for outrage.

Last time I checked, immigration and border security were federal issues, but I may have missed one of Obama's many grandstanding opportunities to denounce immigration policies. The more on the dole, the more votes for the DNC.
 
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These SCHEV guidelines show that military dependents get in-state tuition rates, only after the military family member has established domicile in Virginia (defined at paying state income taxes on all military income). If the military member maintains domicile elsewhere (i.e. they pay taxes in another state, or maintains domicile in a state like Texas which has no state income tax), his or her children will not be afforded in-state tuition rates. Virginia Tech's guidelines state as follows: "These [military parents of] applicants must show that Virginia is their state of legal residence and that all other conditions for establishing domicile have been met, including but not limited to paying Virginia income taxes on all military income." No Virginia income tax, no in-state tuition, even for military dependents.

The issue, however, is whether to extend in-state tuition rates to the children of those in the Commonwealth illegally. Money is tight across the Commonwealth's public schools and this will end up taking more money out of school's operating budgets.
Further, and much more importantly in my book, the issue has been debated in the General Assembly, and the bills have been defeated (so far). Thus, the current expressed intent of the constituted representatives of the people of Virginia is that the dependent children of those in Virginia illegally are not to be extended in-state tuition privileges. If Mark Herring does not like this law, then he should run for a seat in the General Assembly and he can argue for amending that law to his heart's content. Oh, wait, he already was in the General Assembly before he sought the job of Attorney General. Now, because he does not like the law as it currently stands, as the constituted representatives of the people of Virginia have approved it, he declares that the law does not say what it says. This is not the rule of law. It is the rule of men, which Publius said was the very definition of tyranny.
If the General Assembly amends the law to allow illegals' children to enjoy in-state tuition privileges, I'll be among the first to say “Bienvenidos.”
Why these dependents, however? Are they more deserving than military dependents serving in North Carolina or Pennsylvania? How about the children of police officers? Rescue Squad first responders? Dependents of CIA operatives? Postal workers?
The General Assembly has decided to draw the line at military dependents (who pay Virginia income tax) and not to the children of illegal immigrants. Don't like the law? Get the legislature to change the law.
Instead, the Attorney General has shown contempt for the law of the Commonwealth, just like he had previously shown contempt for the Constitution of the Commonwealth.
 
They do live in state though, right? Just cause the federal government doesn't recognize them doesn't mean Virginia can't. But yeah, it would be better to do this by law instead of executive fiat. I don't have an issue with the outcome. Just the process.
Oh, I agree with your position here completely. If the legislature amends the law, fine. But the AG's job is to enforce the law and defend the Commonwealth's law in court. For the life of me, I can't understand why Herring wanted the job, unless he just wanted to thwart the law for some perverse reason.
 
I think that you are assuming a lot with the use of the word "higher" education.

So, if I lived in North Carolina, I pay out of state fees.
If I am a legalized citizen from Mexico, I pay out of state fees.
But if I am an illegal from Mexico, I pay in-state fees

And you think this is a good idea?

legalized aliens domiciled in Virginia also pay in-state fees. the link i provided gives all of the details on who can pay in-state tuition.
 
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Wasn't Virginia the state where the AG also argued against the state on another issue a few months ago, or was that a different state? I don't even remember the issue - somebody help me out here.
 
They do live in state though, right? Just cause the federal government doesn't recognize them doesn't mean Virginia can't. But yeah, it would be better to do this by law instead of executive fiat. I don't have an issue with the outcome. Just the process.

the way i read the NYT article, this refers to the "dreamers"

In a letter to the presidents of the state’s public colleges and universities, Mr. Herring said young people brought illegally to the United States whose deportations had been deferred under a federal program were entitled to in-state tuition, provided that they met the Virginia residency requirements for all students.
 
Oh, I agree with your position here completely. If the legislature amends the law, fine. But the AG's job is to enforce the law and defend the Commonwealth's law in court. For the life of me, I can't understand why Herring wanted the job, unless he just wanted to thwart the law for some perverse reason.

I believe you answered your question there.
 
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