Pick the score: Alabama vs. Clemson NCG

[Bama Reb]

Bama 48 Clemson 10

"Leave no doubt''. :BigA:

 

[ALA2262]

31-24 Bama!

 

[peariver]

Bama 35
Clemson 14

 

[CrimsonForce]

Have a question for the resident Clemson fan or anyone else who wants to chime in. I keep hearing about how good the Clemson defense is but when I look at how many points they have given up it's hard for me to believe the Clemson defense is as good as advertied. Clemson gave up 41 points to North Carolina State, 27 to Syracuse, 32 to South Carolina and 37 to North Carolina. Admittedly, I did not watch all those games so I'm not sure if all those points were given up by the defense or not. However, it's definitely not a fluke that 4 teams scored 27 or more on the Clemson defense. A lot of media and other folks keep bringing up the Ole Miss game. That game can be defined as a fluke because it only happened once. When Clemson gives up 27 points or more 4 different times to sub-par opponents, that's not a fluke..

 

[RTR91]

Have a question for the resident Clemson fan or anyone else who wants to chime in. I keep hearing about how good the Clemson defense is but when I look at how many points they have given up it's hard for me to believe the Clemson defense is as good as advertied. Clemson gave up 41 points to North Carolina State, 27 to Syracuse, 32 to South Carolina and 37 to North Carolina. Admittedly, I did not watch all those games so I'm not sure if all those points were given up by the defense or not. However, it's definitely not a fluke that 4 teams scored 27 or more on the Clemson defense. A lot of media and other folks keep bringing up the Ole Miss game. That game can be defined as a fluke because it only happened once. When Clemson gives up 27 points or more 4 different times to sub-par opponents, that's not a fluke..

Clemson's opponents average scoring 29.7 ppg. Clemson averaged giving up 20 ppg. That's not a very large margin. They faced three offenses (BC, Wake Forest, and USCe) ranked outside the top 99 in scoring offense. OTOH, they faced UNC and OU who are ranked in the top 20 of scoring offense.

 

[Loam]

We have faced better secondaries this year already. I think LSU and Florida both have better secondaries than Clemson does. LSU and Florida have a plethora of 1st-2nd round picks on the back end. Vernon Hargreaves maybe a top 5 pick.

We have also faced better RB's than Clemson offers.

We have faced better OL's than Clemson's.

We have also faced QB's that are just as good as Clemson's. Not saying better QB's, but QB's that could put up similar stats in the Clemson system in the ACC (Dobbs/Prescott)

And lastly, we have certainly faced better WR's too.

As far as talent goes, Clemson brings nothing we haven't seen before. In some ways, Clemson will be a downgrade to what we have already seen. In fact, same goes for Clemson's offensive system. Ole Miss runs basically the same offense.

 

[RTR91]

We have faced better secondaries this year already. I think LSU and Florida both have better secondaries than Clemson does. LSU and Florida have a plethora of 1st-2nd round picks on the back end. Vernon Hargreaves maybe a top 5 pick.

Mackenzie Alexander is a very, very good corner. He's a potential first round draft pick if he declares.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

Mackenzie Alexander is a very, very good corner. He's a potential first round draft pick if he declares.

They have a good safety as well.


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[2003TIDE]

Thanks, my prediction is a sloppy game with turnovers.

I just don't see a sloppy game. Maybe if this was the old BCS format, but both teams have already knocked the rust off. IMO first to 28 wins. I just don't see a super high scoring game. I think we win 28-17.

 

[B1GTide]

Their defense is solid, but MSU's is better and will put more players in the NFL. Same can be said of FL. But more importantly, the defense that your offense faces every day in practice is light years ahead of their's.

You are better prepared to play against them than they are to play against you.

 

[Loam]

I don't think Clemson would have beaten MSU the way we beat them. I think a MSU/Clemson game would be close.

 

[RTR91]

Have a question for the resident Clemson fan or anyone else who wants to chime in. I keep hearing about how good the Clemson defense is but when I look at how many points they have given up it's hard for me to believe the Clemson defense is as good as advertied. Clemson gave up 41 points to North Carolina State, 27 to Syracuse, 32 to South Carolina and 37 to North Carolina. Admittedly, I did not watch all those games so I'm not sure if all those points were given up by the defense or not. However, it's definitely not a fluke that 4 teams scored 27 or more on the Clemson defense. A lot of media and other folks keep bringing up the Ole Miss game. That game can be defined as a fluke because it only happened once. When Clemson gives up 27 points or more 4 different times to sub-par opponents, that's not a fluke..

Looked at the stats even more. In parentheses, you'll see the ranking the average would get as a team (example - Alabama faced the #57 scoring defense overall this season). And these numbers include games against Clemson and Alabama.

Clemson's opponents season averages:

Rushing offense: 195.04 ypg (36)
Passing efficiency: 132.81 (55)
Total offense: 402.78 ypg (62)
Scoring offense: 29.67 ppg (62)

Alabama's opponents season averages:

Rushing offense: 175.40 ypg (61)
Passing efficiency: 135.24 (51)
Total offense: 407.19 ypg (59)
Scoring offense: 30.27 ppg (57)

The one tougher category Clemson faced: Rushing Offense

Alabama faced a worse rushing attack but did hold opponents to 104.6 yards less than their average while Clemson held their opponents to 70.6 yards below their rushing average.

Against Tougher Competition Alabama Still Did More

Against the #51 passing efficiency offense, Alabama held opponents 35.77 points less than their season average while Clemson held its opponents 28.8 points below their average.

Alabama's opponents gained 5 more yards a game on average compared to Clemson's, but Alabama held it's opponents to 150.4 yards below their season average while Clemson was able to keep its opponents 101.2 yards below theirs.

In today's game of football, no one keeps opponents below 10 points. It just doesn't happen. Alabama gave up 13.4 ppg (Ole Miss game really hurts), which means Bama held the #57 scoring offense 16.9 points below its season average. Clemson held opponets to 20 points per game, which is 9.7 points below their 29.7 points per game average.

 

[bamacon]

The one tougher category Clemson faced: Rushing Offense

Alabama faced a worse rushing attack but did hold opponents to 104.6 yards less than their average while Clemson held their opponents to 70.6 yards below their rushing average.

Against Tougher Competition Alabama Still Did More

Considering 2 of the backs were Leonard Fournette and a 100% healthy Nick Chubb at the time and yet a 3rd was Alex Collins I'd say the rushing attack Bama shut down was pretty amazing.

Just flip the schedules and what would the results be? I'll go out on a limb and say Bama's chances at being 14-0 playing Clemson's schedule would be just a touch higher than Clemson going 13-1 playing Bama's schedule.

 

[rgw]

Collins, Hurd, and Fournette are three of the best backs in the country. Hurd had a similar type of playmaker at QB as Clemson has with Watson and had the best game of the three tailbacks (90 yards, 1 TD, 5.1 ypc). Fair to note that the Tennessee game was on the very back end of an 8-straight game stretch though. I'd take it as a positive that our pass rush was still just as effective against Dobbs despite his mobility. He gashed us a few times but they had a lot more success handing it off than scrambling or running with the QB straight up.

 

[imauafan]

Bama 42 Clemson 17

 

[Al A Bama]

As it gets closer and closer, I'm getting MORE and MORE concerned with those Clemson Tigers. That QB gives me nightmares just thinking about what he can POSSIBLY do to our awesome Defense. They are probably going to spread us out more than anyone that we've played this year. I sure hope he spends a lot of time on his backside looking up at the stars, oh this is played indoors, so I mean the ceiling!

That MSU QB couldn't move around. That Clemson QB is like a jack rabbit. He moves quickly: here, there and everywhere else and may run or throw. That can cause Bama DB's to come up to get him and leave their man UNCOVERED. I think, he's much better than Manziel!

We may have to score 50+ to win!

Somebody, please make me feel better about this game.

Those TideFans picking Bama by a bunch must NOT be having any nightmares, yet!

 

[Sabanizer]

As it gets closer and closer, I'm getting MORE and MORE concerned with those Clemson Tigers. That QB gives me nightmares just thinking about what he can POSSIBLY do to our awesome Defense. They are probably going to spread us out more than anyone that we've played this year. I sure hope he spends a lot of time on his backside looking up at the stars, oh this is played indoors, so I mean the ceiling!

That MSU QB couldn't move around. That Clemson QB is like a jack rabbit. He moves quickly: here, there and everywhere else and may run or throw. That can cause Bama DB's to come up to get him and leave their man UNCOVERED. I think, he's much better than Manziel!

We may have to score 50+ to win!

Somebody, please make me feel better about this game.

Those TideFans picking Bama by a bunch must NOT be having any nightmares, yet!

We still have the Cam effect. He is not Cam Newton, our defense can contain him and is built to stop him.

 

[PA Tide Fan]

Bama 31 Clemson 24

 

[Loam]

As it gets closer and closer, I'm getting MORE and MORE concerned with those Clemson Tigers. That QB gives me nightmares just thinking about what he can POSSIBLY do to our awesome Defense. They are probably going to spread us out more than anyone that we've played this year. I sure hope he spends a lot of time on his backside looking up at the stars, oh this is played indoors, so I mean the ceiling!

That MSU QB couldn't move around. That Clemson QB is like a jack rabbit. He moves quickly: here, there and everywhere else and may run or throw. That can cause Bama DB's to come up to get him and leave their man UNCOVERED. I think, he's much better than Manziel!

We may have to score 50+ to win!

Somebody, please make me feel better about this game.

Those TideFans picking Bama by a bunch must NOT be having any nightmares, yet!

LOL, calm down. I'm having the exact opposite feelings as you are. I'm not worried about this game in the least. I was more worried about that Notre Dame title game.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

As it gets closer and closer, I'm getting MORE and MORE concerned with those Clemson Tigers. That QB gives me nightmares just thinking about what he can POSSIBLY do to our awesome Defense. They are probably going to spread us out more than anyone that we've played this year. I sure hope he spends a lot of time on his backside looking up at the stars, oh this is played indoors, so I mean the ceiling!

That MSU QB couldn't move around. That Clemson QB is like a jack rabbit. He moves quickly: here, there and everywhere else and may run or throw. That can cause Bama DB's to come up to get him and leave their man UNCOVERED. I think, he's much better than Manziel!

We may have to score 50+ to win!

Somebody, please make me feel better about this game.

Those TideFans picking Bama by a bunch must NOT be having any nightmares, yet!

You remind me of me last year.


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