Navy SEALs do not have enough combat rifles

[Tidewater]

Umm... No. If there was one thing we could always count on, regardless of where we might be posted, it was that "There are 2 ways of doing things. There is Army way and there is the wrong way."'

Well, unfortunately, I've seen log guys decline to issues supplies that they had on hand, so they could maintain their on-hand stocks.
And it would appear that the problem transcends national lines, since Brits I worked with made the "stores vs. issues" joke.
Not every log guy does this, but enough do to elicit comments from non-log guys.
In the case of the SEALs, it appears SEALs from a returning unit are handing over weapons to a soon-to-be-deploying unit for pre-deployment training.

“I’ve had multiple SEALs at multiple times over the last six months come to me in San Diego … and tell me how things have changed dramatically from five or six years ago, meaning they don’t get weapons now to work up (pre-deployment training) with for two years,” Hunter said. “They get their weapon when a guy comes back and hands over the weapon.”

I cannot say whether these are individual weapons or crew-served weapons. If the former, then that is pretty bad. If the latter, then it is still less than optimum.

 

[bamachile]

During my one-year stint at USNA, they taught us the following supply rules:

1) Steal from the Air Force first. They have everything.
2) Steal from the Army next. They have almost everything and they can't count.
3) Don't bother stealing from the Marines. They stole it to start with.

 

[Bama Reb]

During my one-year stint at USNA, they taught us the following supply rules:

1) Steal from the Air Force first. They have everything.
2) Steal from the Army next. They have almost everything and they can't count.
3) Don't bother stealing from the Marines. They stole it to start with.

When I was in Vietnam, I don't remember there being any Navy or Marine units anywhere close by. There was an Air Force base not too car away though. We stole from each other.

 

[cbi1972]

Umm... No. If there was one thing we could always count on, regardless of where we might be posted, it was that "There are 2 ways of doing things. There is Army way and there is the wrong way."'

Now whether the other branches of the US military do things differently than the Army, that's different. I have no knowledge of their organizational practices.

His military experience has come up before. He is one of the last I would say has a Hollywood view of things military, so there has to be some other explanation.

 

[Tidewater]

His military experience has come up before. He is one of the last I would say has a Hollywood view of things military, so there has to be some other explanation.

Having read up this case, it appears that SEALs have been wearing out weapons and the Navy has not been replacing them at the same rate. So what do you do? You prioritize limits assets.
It is not clear to me whether the shortage is individual weapons (M4 rifles and pistols) or crew-served weapons like machine guns. If it is the latter. It is bad. If the former, it is really bad because my rifle was set up the way I liked it, zeroed to my sight picture, etc. Crew-served weapons are less personalized.

 

[dvldog]

When I was in Vietnam, I don't remember there being any Marine units anywhere close by.

They were camo'd; ;plus, they are very sneaky.:wink:

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Having read up this case, it appears that SEALs have been wearing out weapons and the Navy has not been replacing them at the same rate. So what do you do? You prioritize limits assets.
It is not clear to me whether the shortage is individual weapons (M4 rifles and pistols) or crew-served weapons like machine guns. If it is the latter. It is bad. If the former, it is really bad because my rifle was set up the way I liked it, zeroed to my sight picture, etc. Crew-served weapons are less personalized.

Not only that, but an argument can be made that machine guns and other FA are designed largely for suppressive fire and accuracy may not be the premium that it is with either M4s or sniper weapons...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

They were camo'd; ;plus, they are very sneaky.:wink:

Except in bars...