Texas Town Approves Bond to Build $62.8 Million High School Football Stadium

CajunCrimson

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you know what a Bond is right?

Want to re-think them "having" the money?
I do -- if the folks, the electorate, the citizens, the people who live in the area -- HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY TO SPEND..........to me says quite a bit about how they handle their finances....

It's not like - not building a stadium - will raise the education scores. Part of the education score issue in Texas probably has quite a bit to do with the fact that they have quite a few students who don't speak English and have come from places where there was little or no formal education.
 

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It's not like - not building a stadium - will raise the education scores. Part of the education score issue in Texas probably has quite a bit to do with the fact that they have quite a few students who don't speak English and have come from places where there was little or no formal education.
My thoughts on this are - unless / until you lead the nation in overall scoring, why not use your resources to improve the kids' education?

Seems like a case of massively misplaced ideals...
 

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I do -- if the folks, the electorate, the citizens, the people who live in the area -- HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY TO SPEND..........to me says quite a bit about how they handle their finances....

It's not like - not building a stadium - will raise the education scores. Part of the education score issue in Texas probably has quite a bit to do with the fact that they have quite a few students who don't speak English and have come from places where there was little or no formal education.
so, no then

I have an American Express card with no limit, that doesn't mean I have unlimited funds but I know that can be hard to understand.

and I made no argument about test scores
 

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All while Texas is ranked in the lower half of the US in HS education...
That, of course, depends upon which concocted stat anyone wishes to use. Texas is last in the nation in those with a high school diploma - but even the left-wing Brookings Institution has pointed out that a major player in that role is immigration.

I won't sit here and defend spending $60M on a football stadium, but some of the other slings and arrows need to at least be contextualized.


Or the short answer?

"If Colt hadn't got hurt...."
 

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In 1999, I returned to Alabama when I was offered a job in Birmingham. My third child had two years of high school remaining.
Upon entrance into school, the Alabama school asked her to skip her junior year and become a senior, based on her Texas education to date.
She was accepted to UA at 16 and entered summer after graduation.
Public school was all she attended, but I did work my a-s off to keep kids in good districts. it paid off.
 

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so, no then

I have an American Express card with no limit, that doesn't mean I have unlimited funds but I know that can be hard to understand.

and I made no argument about test scores
The last time I looked this is Alabama, not Texas. That said, who are we to judge them on how they choose to spend their money? And who knows? The SEC, and maybe even the Crimson Tide, just might reap some rewards of it's own from this very stadium.
 

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All while Texas is ranked in the lower half of the US in HS education...
Dumb to spend that much money on a high school stadium but you can't lay the state's low educational ranking on this school district building an exorbitant stadium:

In the September 2014 issue of Money Magazine, McKinney ranked No. 1 on the Best Places to Live in America list. McKinney is the only Texas city in the top 10. Money editors and writers look at employment, schools, crime and safety and overall quality of life aspects to come up with the list.

Also, in 2012, McKinney was named as one of the America's Promise Alliance's 100 Best Communities for Young People presented by ING. The national award recognizes outstanding and innovative work by cities across the country to address the high school dropout rate, and for programs and services that make each city an outstanding place for youth to live, learn and grow.

Other Recent District Awards/Honors:



  • [*=left]6 NCEA Higher Performing Schools (formerly Just for the Kids Honor Roll)
    [*=left]2014 U.S. News & World Report High School Rankings: McKinney HS (Gold Medal, #47 in Texas, #416 Nationally [Top 2.1%]), McKinney Boyd HS (Gold Medal, #53 in Texas, #483 Nationally [Top 2.4%]), McKinney North HS (Silver Medal, #55 in Texas, #501 Nationally [Top 2.58%])
 

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All those star players will be bound for Austin where they will be further disillusioned.
 

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It's hard to keep up with the Joneses. Or in the case, the Allens. At least the McKinney stadium will be shared by its three high schools.
The bad news is (IMO), it will most likely be built by the same folks that built the Allen stadium, which started developing cracks after its first year so serious they had to close it for safety reasons.
The kids in neighboring Frisco will be playing at the Cowboys' new practice facility soon. Not sure what Frisco ISD's total investment in that is.
What's weird is, there are probably more soccer players than football players in McKinney.
 

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It's hard to keep up with the Joneses. Or in the case, the Allens. At least the McKinney stadium will be shared by its three high schools.
The bad news is (IMO), it will most likely be built by the same folks that built the Allen stadium, which started developing cracks after its first year so serious they had to close it for safety reasons.
The kids in neighboring Frisco will be playing at the Cowboys' new practice facility soon. Not sure what Frisco ISD's total investment in that is.
What's weird is, there are probably more soccer players than football players in McKinney.
Nah, I think football is still king for now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKinney,_Texas

As of the 2010 census McKinney had a population of 131,117. The median age was 33. The racial composition of the population was 74.8% White, 10.5% Black, 0.7% Native American, 4.1% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, and 3.1% reporting two or more races. About 18.6% of residents were Hispanic or Latino of any race.[13]
 

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In the case of Allen, and I am sure McKinney as well, it has to do with growth. The largest percentage of the pie funding wise for Texas school districts is local property taxes. I have lived in Allen since late 2000 and have seen it grow from 42,000 residents to 95,000. When we first moved here there was almost a joke that if you wanted to go out to eat or shop for clothes you had to go to McKinney or Plano. Fast forward to present day and the Village at Allen is upwards of 1.5 million sq feet of retail space, Watters Creek has 50 stores and 14 restaurants, Ben E Keith built a distribution facility, there is a TopGolf, and Cisco opened a $200 million data center that primarily feeds their internal cloud and where they test high capacity equipment. All of that drove more home building in the city limits and, not to be smarmy, but they did not build starter homes. In short, the property values in Allen went up by a full $1 billion over a span of 3-4 years.

Yes, we built a $60 million dollar stadium here. And because of the rising value of land and the intelligence of local leaders, my tax rate has decreased each year since the 2013/2014 school year.

I am not a resident of McKinney, so I did not see the specifics on what they just voted on, but I do know that McKinney had 54,000 residents in the 2000 census and they have 156,000 now (estimated). Lots and lots of houses have been built with the retail, restaurant, and service industries that can support that many people. It wouldn't surprise me if this bond has little to no affect on their tax bill.
 
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