Game Thread: Official Post Game Thread - Bama vs. Clemson, Round Two...

[dWarriors88]

yeah but they had nothing to do with our offsides/holding penalties and/or dropped passes that continually stalled drives. one sustained drive in the third or fourth quarter and we are celebrating #5. we had numerous chances to ice the game that we whiffed on.

i agree..


Also.
Look no further than that possession we had with 6:40 or so left, we run the ball, Damien Harris picks up the first, then we pass three straight times, and punt. Clemson scores next possession, we score, but give the ball back with :15 seconds to long. Literally all Sark had to do was keep leaning on the run, and give up on those dump screens, and we would have eeked by. Sighhhhh

 

[JDCrimson]

I will say that the Clemson coaches did a great job of scouting Big12 officials.


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We were probably to busy trying to reincarnate our offense to do this.

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[crimsonaudio]

We lost scoring 31, Jalen and/or the offence didn't let us down.

It's not that easy - when the offense can't hold the ball by converting third downs and chewing clock, the defense gets worn down. By the end of the game we gasses and were getting far less pressure on Watson, and when he has time to throw, it's show time.

 

[RTR91]

It's not that easy - when the offense can't hold the ball by converting third downs and chewing clock, the defense gets worn down. By the end of the game we gasses and were getting far less pressure on Watson, and when he has time to throw, it's show time.

Yep. They ran 33 more plays and had almost 9 more minutes of possession. That will destroy a defense.

I don't understand why we didn't rotate more. Where was Terrell Hall? He's played enough this year to play some snaps and help keep guys fresh. Seemed like we rotated more in the first half and just stopped it in the second.

 

[RTR2u]

Good thing I'm retired. I'm exhausted today.

 

[HartselleTider]

99 to 66. That is why we lost. Defense was gassed cause offense couldn't move the ball.

RTR.

Pretty much sums it up right there.

One of the problems on offense is Alabama always has to be perfect and earn every single yard because they give themselves no chance to ever draw pass interference penalties. When Hurts throws deep downfield, he just heaves it as far as he can. Overthrows the receiver by 5-10 yards every single time. He has to learn to give his receiver a chance to catch it, or a chance at a PI penalty. You don't give yourself a shot at either when you just throw it as far as you can.

That's where teams like Ole Miss or Clemson are able to best Alabama. A top quarterback with talented receivers are able to the rules, refs, passing intracacies, and ability against the weakest part of Bama's defense. Our offense isn't able to counter. We just have to be perfect in execution and earn everything. Leads to too many 3 and outs. I think some of that is where Hugh Freeze was coming from with what he said. It was obvious before Freeze ever mentioned it though.

 

[B1GTide]

It's not that easy - when the offense can't hold the ball by converting third downs and chewing clock, the defense gets worn down. By the end of the game we gasses and were getting far less pressure on Watson, and when he has time to throw, it's show time.

Worse yet the poor play calling. Alabama only held the ball for 2 minutes or more once in the second half. If you just run the ball on those drives, you eat up at least a few more minutes. You were in a hurry, throwing incompletions and using no clock at all.

Go look at the TOP for those possessions. It tells a tragic story.

 

[Tidetwin]

It's not that easy - when the offense can't hold the ball by converting third downs and chewing clock, the defense gets worn down. By the end of the game we gasses and were getting far less pressure on Watson, and when he has time to throw, it's show time.

And his receivers - Renfro, Williams, Cain and Leggett - were magnificent,especially in the 4th quarter.

 

[UntouchableCrew]

Worse yet the poor play calling. Alabama only held the ball for 2 minutes or more once in the second half. If you just run the ball on those drives, you eat up at least a few more minutes. You were in a hurry, throwing incompletions and using no clock at all.

Go look at the TOP for those possessions. It tells a tragic story.

I agree with this but part of that is once Bo was injured we couldn't run the ball as effectively. He was missed.

 

[81usaf92]

Worse yet the poor play calling. Alabama only held the ball for 2 minutes or more once in the second half. If you just run the ball on those drives, you eat up at least a few more minutes. You were in a hurry, throwing incompletions and using no clock at all.

Go look at the TOP for those possessions. It tells a tragic story.

Play calling was decent until that 1 drive where Damien got a first down and it was pass 3 times. Then the drive where Jalen scored we probably should have taken another 30 seconds off, but you can't fault Jalen for scoring so I think we did good play calling overall, but penalties, dropped ball, and lack of execution will kill you in the end

 

[BamaMoon]

i agree..


Also.
Look no further than that possession we had with 6:40 or so left, we run the ball, Damien Harris picks up the first, then we pass three straight times, and punt. Clemson scores next possession, we score, but give the ball back with :15 seconds to long. Literally all Sark had to do was keep leaning on the run, and give up on those dump screens, and we would have eeked by. Sighhhhh

I thought this was the most pivotal moment in the game. If we do nothing else but run 3 more running plays and then punt in that instant, it runs another 2 minutes off the clock. We make a couple more first downs we bleed the clock down.

I will say that I believe SS believed we couldn't just run the ball without trying to pass some. They were loading the box and just baiting us to pass it. We tried and couldn't.

Ironically, even on many of those three and outs, if we are running and not passing the game ends with Bama winning in a low scoring affair.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

Worse yet the poor play calling. Alabama only held the ball for 2 minutes or more once in the second half. If you just run the ball on those drives, you eat up at least a few more minutes. You were in a hurry, throwing incompletions and using no clock at all.

Go look at the TOP for those possessions. It tells a tragic story.

If you look at our next to last possession- 3rd and 10+ I believe- we throw a long low % pass & stop the clock. If we run the ball and take 40 more seconds off the clock...?


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[LA4Bama]

I agree with this but part of that is once Bo was injured we couldn't run the ball as effectively. He was missed.

we needed to give Harris and Jacobs more carries. They were getting more yards than incomplete passes.

 

[81usaf92]

I thought this was the most pivotal moment in the game. If we do nothing else but run 3 more running plays and then punt in that instant, it runs another 2 minutes off the clock. We make a couple more first downs we bleed the clock down.

I will say that I believe SS believed we couldn't just run the ball without trying to pass some. They were loading the box and just baiting us to pass it. We tried and couldn't.

Ironically, even on many of those three and outs, if we are running and not passing the game ends with Bama winning in a low scoring affair.

The o line played a very inconsistent game, and he had to take them outside the box. Honestly the 1 drive I most fault Sark for was when we were on our own 10, and their RE gets hurt. Why we don't run at him and change field position is mind boggling. But overall we called a decent game

 

[LA4Bama]

I thought this was the most pivotal moment in the game. If we do nothing else but run 3 more running plays and then punt in that instant, it runs another 2 minutes off the clock. We make a couple more first downs we bleed the clock down.

I will say that I believe SS believed we couldn't just run the ball without trying to pass some. They were loading the box and just baiting us to pass it. We tried and couldn't.

Ironically, even on many of those three and outs, if we are running and not passing the game ends with Bama winning in a low scoring affair.

Not necessarily. They took the lead with about 4 minutes left. Had we burned clock that might have been the last drive.

 

[JDCrimson]

I hope Sark and Saban move us back to a more traditional pro-style philosophy. I saw glimpses last night in running the ball from under center. Our offense now looks too much like Auburn's where if we don't have elite QB play we struggle offensively. All of our recent NCs were built around a passing QB who can hurt you with the play action.

From the LSU game on we put our passing game on the shelf and didn't challenge Hurts to develop in this area. By and large our offense almost looked like it was being called by Anthony Grant. We rode our defense until it broke.

You can't expect a defense not falter when it's on the field 99 plays. I really feel we should have continued to run the ball more from my vantage point in the stadium. There were opportunities off tackle and in space for Harris and Jacobs to make some hay. Bouleware is not an arm tackler.

Interestingly I thought the timeout we took right before the half to try was not a good idea as we basically had to put the defense back on the field instead of giving them a 30 minute half time.

In retrospect there was simply too much distraction to overcome. It looked to me like we had about 12 offensive play options.



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[trenda]

I agree with this but part of that is once Bo was injured we couldn't run the ball as effectively. He was missed.

Our RBs had runs of 13, 3, 3 and 5 after Bo went out. 4 yds per carry.

Four yards per carry could have most certainly helped sustain a drive or two and milk the clock. We just didn't give it to our RBs enough.


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[BamaMoon]

Not necessarily. They took the lead with about 4 minutes left. Had we burned clock that might have been the last drive.

Not this year, but how many times have we burned 6 or 7 or 8 minutes off the clock in the 4th down. That's Bama football most of the time.

But, in hindsight, that would have been classic Bama to say we are going to run this football and you try to stop us. But we didn't try.

 

[Saban4Ever]

Good thing I'm retired. I'm exhausted today.

Me too! I literally got no sleep. Then when I thought I might fall asleep, my dog wanted me to get up out of bed.

 

[BamaMoon]

I hope Sark and Saban move us back to a more traditional pro-style philosophy. I saw glimpses last night in running the ball from under center. Our offense now looks too much like Auburn's where if we don't have elite QB play we struggle offensively. All of our recent NCs were built around a passing QB who can hurt you with the play action.

From the LSU game on we put our passing game on the shelf and didn't challenge Hurts to develop in this area. By and large our offense almost looked like it was being called by Anthony Grant. We rode our defense until it broke.

You can't expect a defense not falter when it's on the field 99 plays. I really feel we should have continued to run the ball more from my vantage point in the stadium. There were opportunities off tackle and in space for Harris and Jacobs to make some hay. Bouleware is not an arm tackler.

Interestingly I thought the timeout we took right before the half to try was not a good idea as we basically had to put the defense back on the field instead of giving them a 30 minute half time.

In retrospect there was simply too much distraction to overcome. It looked to me like we had about 12 offensive play options.



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Brother, you are singing my song this morning. I'm expressed this in another thread I started. I just don't know if this is the best way to win championships.

It takes an elite dual threat to win NC's (and Jalen may become that), but give me a brutal running game and game managing qbs who have play makers on the outside and this game is over in the first half.