Game Thread: Official Post Game Thread - Bama vs. Clemson, Round Two...

[81usaf92]

I hope Sark and Saban move us back to a more traditional pro-style philosophy. I saw glimpses last night in running the ball from under center. Our offense now looks too much like Auburn's where if we don't have elite QB play we struggle offensively. All of our recent NCs were built around a passing QB who can hurt you with the play action.

From the LSU game on we put our passing game on the shelf and didn't challenge Hurts to develop in this area. By and large our offense almost looked like it was being called by Anthony Grant. We rode our defense until it broke.

You can't expect a defense not falter when it's on the field 99 plays. I really feel we should have continued to run the ball more from my vantage point in the stadium. There were opportunities off tackle and in space for Harris and Jacobs to make some hay. Bouleware is not an arm tackler.

Interestingly I thought the timeout we took right before the half to try was not a good idea as we basically had to put the defense back on the field instead of giving them a 30 minute half time.

In retrospect there was simply too much distraction to overcome. It looked to me like we had about 12 offensive play options.



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1) the Mac type philosophy ain't coming back

2) we are nothing like Auburn and Malzhan's offense. We just have a freshman qb having freshman moments. People forget how average and sometimes below average AJ was in his first year as a starter as a sophomore. He faced only one top 10 defense while Jalen has faced 4-5.

3) controversial no calls aside, the defense had no answer for renfro or leggitt.

4) our offenses the past 3 years has been based around the run. The main difference is that Henry was more dominant, and Clemson didn't respect Jake Coker. Clemson was far more concerned about hurts than they were Coker

 

[runtheoption22]

1) disappointed in our defensive scouting of their red zone plays (sans the picks). If clemson sends the single WR in motion, it's a run play to that side. I've seen it all season. Not hard to miss. Yet, we still sent the CB with the WR. Watson scored on one, and almost the other.

2) pleased with how well Jennings, Frazier, and Hand played in the first half. probably shouldve played more in the 2nd.

3) didn't trust Harris after Bo went down. that's probably due to the OC change. but surprised Saban didnt say, slow down, eat 3 minutes off. with talent we will have next season at RB, we need to get back to phsyicality which leads me to....

4) inconsistent OL play this season, especially at the guard spots. Losing Taylor and Casher killed us at RG. Piersbacher would be awesome for a play and then completely miss the next.
Our best, Robinson, was a drive killer this year with false starts. That said, we've got some maulers in waiting that have grown this year.

5) Hurts can actually throw. I'm betting he blossoms this spring.

 

[bamamc1]

Brother, you are singing my song this morning. I'm expressed this in another thread I started. I just don't know if this is the best way to win championships.

It takes an elite dual threat to win NC's (and Jalen may become that), but give me a brutal running game and game managing qbs who have play makers on the outside and this game is over in the first half.

If Greg McElroy jogs out there last night we win because they would have to defend more than 1/3 of the field.

 

[bamacpa]

We got beat by a better team. It happens. No excuses , congrats to Clemson. They outplayed us.


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[RTR2u]

1) disappointed in our defensive scouting of their red zone plays (sans the picks). If clemson sends the single WR in motion, it's a run play to that side. I've seen it all season. Not hard to miss. Yet, we still sent the CB with the WR. Watson scored on one, and almost the other.

2) pleased with how well Jennings, Frazier, and Hand played in the first half. probably shouldve played more in the 2nd.

3) didn't trust Harris after Bo went down. that's probably due to the OC change. but surprised Saban didnt say, slow down, eat 3 minutes off. with talent we will have next season at RB, we need to get back to phsyicality which leads me to....

4) inconsistent OL play this season, especially at the guard spots. Losing Taylor and Casher killed us at RG. Piersbacher would be awesome for a play and then completely miss the next.
Our best, Robinson, was a drive killer this year with false starts. That said, we've got some maulers in waiting that have grown this year.

5) Hurts can actually throw. I'm betting he blossoms this spring.

Thank you for this insight. I didn't realize we had those players in #2 in the game.

 

[RTR91]

1) disappointed in our defensive scouting of their red zone plays (sans the picks). If clemson sends the single WR in motion, it's a run play to that side. I've seen it all season. Not hard to miss. Yet, we still sent the CB with the WR. Watson scored on one, and almost the other.

Heck, I called it the second one solely based on the first one. Not sure why we didn't adjust more.

Did JP fear they were setting us up?

2) pleased with how well Jennings, Frazier, and Hand played in the first half. probably shouldve played more in the 2nd.

Commented elsewhere seemed like we rotated more in the first and completely went away from it in the second. Where were Hall and Miller? Those guys have gotten enough reps during the season to give the starters a breather.

3) didn't trust Harris after Bo went down. that's probably due to the OC change. but surprised Saban didnt say, slow down, eat 3 minutes off. with talent we will have next season at RB, we need to get back to phsyicality which leads me to....

On one hand, I keep thinking we had to pass more to get them out of the box to open the running game. OTOH, I think we should have continued to run the ball to eat up clock.

4) inconsistent OL play this season, especially at the guard spots. Losing Taylor and Casher killed us at RG. Piersbacher would be awesome for a play and then completely miss the next.
Our best, Robinson, was a drive killer this year with false starts. That said, we've got some maulers in waiting that have grown this year.

This. This. This. This.

I didn't understand some of the announcers during the second half of the season talk about the issues at RG. The more I paid attention, though, I saw it. We had no continuity there after the injuries.

The interior OL play was inconsistent all season, but we were able to make up for it.

Weren't able to last night.

5) Hurts can actually throw. I'm betting he blossoms this spring.

Whether it be the staff telling Jalen don't make a mistake or Lane not doing a good job of developing Jalen as the season went on, something caused him not to throw as well. I look forward to seeing what he can do next season.

 

[JDCrimson]

Brother, you are singing my song this morning. I'm expressed this in another thread I started. I just don't know if this is the best way to win championships.

It takes an elite dual threat to win NC's (and Jalen may become that), but give me a brutal running game and game managing qbs who have play makers on the outside and this game is over in the first half.

Take away our NOTs and we have regressed substantially on offense. I understand we have freshman QB, etc. But UGA didn't have have to take away the whole back of the field playing Eason as a freshman.

Continuing to play this style is going to is going to hurt our recruiting and make us even more dependent on finding an elite dual threat QB.

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[BamaSC]

Holy hangover, Bat Man. And not the good kind!

 

[RTR91]

Take away our NOTs and we have regressed substantially on offense. I understand we have freshman QB, etc. But UGA didn't have have to take away the whole back of the field playing Eason as a freshman.

Continuing to play this style is going to is going to hurt our recruiting and make us even more dependent on finding an elite dual threat QB.

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You mean the UGA offense that 71 yards less per game than Alabama, a yard per play less than Alabama, 25 less TDs, and 54 less rushing yards than Alabama?

And more importantly the Georgia team that lost 5 games?

 

[CoachJeff]

If one play on that final drive is different we are talking about the team being the greatest in history. It's a small margin.

Some folks act like Bama needs to revamp everything. Come on. It's more about Watson being great than Bama needing to retool everything.

 

[92tide]

Take away our NOTs and we have regressed substantially on offense. I understand we have freshman QB, etc. But UGA didn't have have to take away the whole back of the field playing Eason as a freshman.

Continuing to play this style is going to is going to hurt our recruiting and make us even more dependent on finding an elite dual threat QB.

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uga went 8-5 this year, i don't know why you would want to compare us to them.

 

[92tide]

If one play on that final drive is different we are talking about the team being the greatest in history. It's a small margin.

Some folks act like Bama needs to revamp everything. Come on. It's more about Watson being great than Bama needing to retool everything.

i am convinced that we have one of the whiniest fan bases in the country

 

[CoachJeff]

uga went 8-5 this year, i don't know why you would want to compare us to them.

I guess he is trying say they're better than us? Or equal? Both have true freshman QBs, though I'd take Hurts over Eason any day of the week.

 

[81usaf92]

Take away our NOTs and we have regressed substantially on offense. I understand we have freshman QB, etc. But UGA didn't have have to take away the whole back of the field playing Eason as a freshman.

Continuing to play this style is going to is going to hurt our recruiting and make us even more dependent on finding an elite dual threat QB.

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Recruiting is still #1 last I checked.

UGA was 8-5 this year and got thumped by Florida. Remind me what we did to to Florida even as bad as we played on offense.

 

[81usaf92]

I guess he is trying say they're better than us? Or equal? Both have true freshman QBs, though I'd take Hurts over Eason any day of the week.

Eason is a better passer but he gets rattled way easier. It's the Aaron Murray vs AJ Mccarron argument all over again.

 

[Padreruf]

We lost to a good team with a great QB and very good WR's. No shame...and I don't think the officials cost us the game. If we have just one, time eating drive in the 2nd half we win the game.

Hats off to CU...they were prepared for us and played well. The best team I have seen all year.

RTR!

 

[BamaMoon]

CNS with game manager QB at Bama: 4-0 in NCG.

CNS with dual threat QB: 0-1 NCG.

We may stay the course with this direction, but there's reason to wonder if we should.

That's not whining, it's just perspective, opinion or one way of looking at it.

 

[AlexanderFan]

I repect you. But think you have bumped your head. I have talked to 2 different NFL DC and one DB coach in the last 3 years and asked about our DBs especially corners. They all 3 said to a man that Bamas DB are taught more technique and form than any other college. They did say our guys probably have too much put on them in the terms of schemes and responsibilities. But they know how to play in phase which many DBs dont. Sometimes I think we get them thinking too much rather than just go play but we are talking about a man who has won 5 Titles coaching them up.

Dude is set in his ways. He refuses to see all the leeway the offense is given nowadays.


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[BAMARICH]

Take away our NOTs and we have regressed substantially on offense.

This has been an issue IMO throughout the season... and played a role in CLK's early departure. To me, one of three things occurred. One... we didn't see the need to develop JH's passing ability and thought our defense would be able to carry us to a championship. Two... JH simply didn't have the ability to progress enough to the point he could pass effectively during crunch time. Three... the attention of our coaching staff did not focus completely upon that development.

Of the three, I'm sure we all will have an opinion as to which one was actually the case. But, consider this... we had an entire month to help get JH ready for these two games and enough defensive versatility to mimic both defenses we'd face. That... and he had time to rest mentally and physically from the long grind of the season.

 

[runtheoption22]

Also, if Cecil Hurts is right (and he usually is), Saban wants to leave no doubt that he was the best ever..... so, he just extended his stay in Tuscaloosa by at least one more year. :biggrin: Sorry, world.