Poll: Who wins the Georgia-Oklahoma game?

[uafan4life]

And I'd argue that comparing their defensive performance from a month ago against a rival (Okie Lite, a considerably more potent scoring offense and the #1 passing offense in the country) to UGA isn't a very good comparison either...

In terms of game-plan and technique, of course. Where it becomes applicable is in terms of how consistently the two offenses score on a given drive, in which they're nearly identical. From that perspective, Oklahoma State is the only offense similar to Georgia's that Oklahoma has faced.

However, I did note that Oklahoma hasn't faced an offense like Georgia's, at all, this season.

 

[deliveryman35]

All four teams have good defenses. OU’s D is getting a bit of a bad rap because they face the spread O every week imo. Put the other three in that same situation and I think you would see less disparity between the four teams’ defensive stats.They will make adjustments before playing a more conventional/pro style O and I think most will be surprised how well they play. You don’t get to this point not playing any defense at all.

 

[uafan4life]

All four teams have good defenses. OU’s D is getting a bit of a bad rap because they face the spread O every week imo. Put the other three in that same situation and I think you would see less disparity between the four teams’ defensive stats.They will make adjustments before playing a more conventional/pro style O and I think most will be surprised how well they play. You don’t get to this point not playing any defense at all.

The problem with your hypothesis is that, for example, DFEI is adjusted for the strength of the opponents offense. It's not merely that OU's defense has given up a lot of raw numbers; it's that they've given up more of those raw numbers than others and their defensive production is directly related to their offensive production.

Don't look at points per game, total yards per game, rushing yards per game, etc., but instead look at points per drive, yards per play, yards per rush, etc., and you'll find that Oklahoma has a very, very pedestrian defense.


EDIT:
DFEI rankings, through 11/25, for the four CFP teams:
3. Georgia - 0.92
4. Clemson - 0.93
5. Alabama - 1.07
67. Oklahoma - 2.26

 

[B1GTide]

All four teams have good defenses. OU’s D is getting a bit of a bad rap because they face the spread O every week imo. Put the other three in that same situation and I think you would see less disparity between the four teams’ defensive stats.They will make adjustments before playing a more conventional/pro style O and I think most will be surprised how well they play. You don’t get to this point not playing any defense at all.

You're kidding, right? OU does not have a defense that even compares with the other 3. Their back 7 - who would be in the 2 deep at any of the other 3 schools.

 

[Con]

I will be pulling hard for Georgia, but I voted for Oklahoma. I hope all of you guys are right about Geogia being able to out physical them and outscore them. It is a very good Senior QB vs. a pretty solid true freshman QB so I lean toward Oklahoma.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Oklahoma's defense is bad. It just is. There is no getting around it. Their offense is good enough, however, to overcome it. But there is a formula for Georgia to follow. Georgia needs to sustain long drives and end them in TDs. Keep Mayfield off the field, and they will win. OU's offense is going to get theirs. You just need to limit their opportunities. And I don't mean be overly conservative on offense either. Be aggressive. But punish their defense and stay away from the HUNH (which I'm not sure Georgia runs much of anyway). If Georgia tries to get into a track meet, they are doomed, IMO.

 

[uafan4life]

I'm going to list all of the Big 12 teams that Oklahoma held to their season worst or next-to-worst in Points, Total Yards, or Yards per Play during the regular season:
1.


Hmm, that's a short list. Oklahoma was 0-9 in this particular scenario during the regular season.


Meanwhile, here's the list of all of the SEC teams that Alabama held to their season worst or next-to-worst in Points, Total Yards, or Yards per Play during the regular season:
1. Vanderbilt
2. Ole Miss
3. Texas A&M
4. Arkansas
5. Tennessee
6. LSU
7. Mississippi State
8. Barn

That's right, Alabama was 8-0 in this stat for the regular season - even in the game we lost.

 

[BamaJama17]

The Heisman Trophy winner always seems to lay an egg in the bowl game after receiving the award. I'm hoping Mayfield carries on that tradition.

I think Georgia's offense controls the clock and keeps Mayfield on the sideline. The Dawgs win in a close one.

Matt Leinart, Mark Ingram, Cam Newton, Jameis Winston, and Derrick Henry all strongly disagree with you...however yes most of them did. Going back since 2000, Chris Weinke, Eric Crouch, Jason White, Troy Smith all completely bombed out. Sam Bradford and Marcus Mariota both actually had good games.

 

[westide]

It would be a big blow to the Okies if Anderson doesn't play due to legal problems.

 

[NBF_Bama_Cavalry]

I wasn't comparing the two offenses, I was merely suggesting that I believe they have improved. They shut down a solid TCU team. Do I believe TCU is the same caliber as UGA? Not even close. But my point stands - if OU can slow down the UGA run game and force them to win through the air, i don't think UGA can score often enough to win the game, as I do believe OU will score points.

I agree 100% that OU will score points and if they jump out to a 2 or 3 score lead early, it'll get ugly.. I just believe that UGA's defense is far superior to any Big 12 defense and should be able to slow them down. I don't think OU's defense is built to withstand the punishment they'll get from a power run game. If Georgia's defense can hold their own, I think they'll have OU's defense gassed by the 4th quarter. At least...that's what I'm hoping!

 

[dvldog]

I think GA D has to limit scramble yardage by the OU QB. Perhaps the biggest thing in getting stops on 3rd down. Along w/this GA has to push the pocket and make the QB a little uncomfortable. I think GA D has the speed at all 3 D levels to do this. We'll see.

 

[BamaMoon]

I've been reading this thread over the last few days and thinking about the game.

First, I'm glad Georgia got the semi-final match up with OU and we got Clemson.

For either us or Georgia, OU was the tougher semi-final game.

Georgia will lay the wood on defense to OU, even if they win, and so if we get past Clemson, I like the fact OU will have to turn around 1 week later and play us.

My heart hopes Georgia beats OU in a slobber-knocker and both teams are physically and mentally spent. But I think OU will just have too much offense in this game for Georgia to keep up.

I'd rather us play Georgia because I think we match up with them much better, but I think OU will prevail.

Heisman jinx? It seems to apply to qbs more than others. Mayfield is hands down the most electric player in college right now so I see the attention he'll be getting as something that could adversely effect his mental state for the CFP. Georgia better hope so, because if he plays to his potential he's the difference maker, as hot qbs normally are, in this game.

I think it'll be an awesome game to watch. I'd enjoy it more if it were the late game and we could watch it after taking care of Clemson!

 

[RT27]

I've been reading this thread over the last few days and thinking about the game.

First, I'm glad Georgia got the semi-final match up with Georgia and we got Clemson.

For either us or Georgia, OU was the tougher semi-final game.

Georgia will lay the wood on defense to OU, even if they win, and so if we get past Clemson, I like the fact OU will have to turn around 1 week later and play us.

My heart hopes Georgia beats OU in a slobber-knocker and both teams are physically and mentally spent. But I think OU will just have too much offense in this game for Georgia to keep up.

I'd rather us play Georgia because I think we match up with them much better, but I think OU will prevail.

Heisman jinx? It seems to apply to qbs more than others. Mayfield is hands down the most electric player in college right now so I see the attention he'll be getting as something that could adversely effect his mental state for the CFP. Georgia better hope so, because if he plays to his potential he's the difference maker, as hot qbs normally are, in this game.

I think it'll be an awesome game to watch. I'd enjoy it more if it were the late game and we could watch it after taking care of Clemson!

I wonder how OU defense can do stopping UGA running game. They have not played a team with this caliber of running talent. Also running eats clock, limits OU chances on offence. If they limit OU's chances to score, all they need are a few stops, if they can put up points running. If OU gets a lead it may all be over though. Kirby knows how to play defense, he knows the fewer time they have to stop OU the better. RUN RUN RUN. I am not sure OU defense can stop those running backs.

 

[BamaMoon]

I am not sure OU defense can stop those running backs.

I'm not sure Georgia's defense can contain Mayfield. Frankly, I'm not sure ours can either.

It could be a very high scoring game and if so I think it would favor OU.

If Georgia limits OU's TOP and has success running and scoring TDS, they might just win. I hope they do!

 

[rgw]

Mayfield should eat their defense up but Chubb ought to run all over them.


Gonna go with experience at QB and pick OU.

 

[BamaMoon]

Mayfield should eat their defense up but Chubb ought to run all over them.


Gonna go with experience at QB and pick OU.

Basically, my thinking as well!

 

[PA Tide Fan]

Another reason I think Oklahoma will win is that I think Oklahoma will just want it more. I'm not saying Georgia doesn't care but if Georgia loses they will feel like they've still had a successful season. Many fans thought that Georgia was still a year away from possibly winning the SEC, maybe Kirby felt that also. Oklahoma goes into every season thinking National Championship. They don't look at winning the Big 12 as a major accomplishment. Mayfield came back for his senior season specifically to win a NC. I think Georgia is at a huge disadvantage against any of the playoff teams because Georgia is the newcomer but the other 3 teams are all accustomed to playing big games and winning championships and consider anything less a failure.

 

[BamaMoon]

Another reason I think Oklahoma will win is that I think Oklahoma will just want it more. I'm not saying Georgia doesn't care but if Georgia loses they will feel like they've still had a successful season. Many fans thought that Georgia was still a year away from possibly winning the SEC, maybe Kirby felt that also. Oklahoma goes into every season thinking National Championship. They don't look at winning the Big 12 as a major accomplishment. Mayfield came back for his senior season specifically to win a NC. I think Georgia is at a huge disadvantage against any of the playoff teams because Georgia is the newcomer but the other 3 teams are all accustomed to playing big games and winning championships and consider anything less a failure.

Maybe, but Kirby ought to know better from his days at Bama. Bird in the hand is always better than two in the bush. It's no small task to play for one so you better not plan to have another chance!

 

[deliveryman35]

In terms of game-plan and technique, of course. Where it becomes applicable is in terms of how consistently the two offenses score on a given drive, in which they're nearly identical. From that perspective, Oklahoma State is the only offense similar to Georgia's that Oklahoma has faced.

However, I did note that Oklahoma hasn't faced an offense like Georgia's, at all, this season.

You seem pretty convinced that Georgia will prevail based almost solely on OU’s defensive stats alone. How soon we forget that Georgia got blown out by the barn 3 wks ago and gave up over 40 pts to Stidham and Co. Oklahoma is a much better team than auburn and I don’t thnk Georgia holds Oklahoma under 30 points. Georgia will get some points and yards but the Sooners will get much more.

Oklahoma wins this one in a romp.

 

[uafan4life]

You seem pretty convinced that Georgia will prevail based almost solely on OU’s defensive stats alone. How soon we forget that Georgia got blown out by the barn 3 wks ago and gave up over 40 pts to Stidham and Co. Oklahoma is a much better team than auburn and I don’t thnk Georgia holds Oklahoma under 30 points. Georgia will get some points and yards but the Sooners will get much more.

Oklahoma wins this one in a romp.

At the end of the season, at full health, the Barn was the second-best team in the SEC.

Oklahoma wouldn't have wanted one bit of the Barn on the day they played Georgia the first time.

I'm not certain that the Bulldogs will win; it's a big stage, they're new to the CFP, and anything can happen - especially when that oblong ball starts bouncing here and there.

However, if both teams bring their A-games, Oklahoma will score some points but not nearly as much as they're used to scoring against Big 12 defenses and Mayfield will be standing on the sidelines watching a lot more than he's accustomed.

Barring points off of turnovers, I don't think the Sooners score 30 points.

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