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[TideFan in AU]

This is beyond the pale.

As CullmanTide posted about - Saban has won 5 of 9 and some posters here act like he's lost it. The 'back seat coaching' going on here is astonishingly funny.

I'm just laughing aloud over here...

I'm laughing with you boss. Saban is not perfect and has made mistakes along the way, but some of these guys are acting like he stole their lunch money.

 

[crimsonaudio]

It is incredible, and probably won’t be replicated in our lifetimes. He is the greatest coach, but there has been credible information that suggests him and Daboll had a difference of opinion on who the qb should be. These reports really have riled people up because it’s starting to show a side of CNS many aren’t comfortable with.

That's fine, really, it is. I'm uncomfortable with quite a few things that CNS does as a HC, but the results are what matters.

So if Daboll had a disagreement with Belichick, I've a hard time believing people would take Daboll's side, no matter who they heard agreed with him...

And no matter what, people are up in arms over hearsay - that's what's incredible. Some people are wigging out, suggesting Saban almost wrecked the program - over rumors...

SMH and LOL

 

[TiderJack]

I'm laughing with you boss. Saban is not perfect and has made mistakes along the way, but some of these guys are acting like he stole their lunch money.

I can't imagine what would happen if we had a 2010 season.

 

[LeBron47]

It is incredible, and probably won’t be replicated in our lifetimes. He is the greatest coach, but there has been credible information that suggests him and Daboll had a difference of opinion on who the qb should be. These reports really have riled people up because it’s starting to show a side of CNS many aren’t comfortable with.

I think there was a rumor that Joey Fishwater wanted Cornwall over Coker in the Ole Miss game a couple years ago. Cornwall got the start and a few interceptions later Coker came on the field and almost led the team to a win and did go on to lead the team to a National title.

I don’t know if it comes down to siding with Fatboy Daboll or CNS then I am with coach on this one ... not because he is perfect or above criticism but because he is usually right.

 

[TiderJack]

It is incredible, and probably won’t be replicated in our lifetimes. He is the greatest coach, but there has been credible information that suggests him and Daboll had a difference of opinion on who the qb should be. These reports really have riled people up because it’s starting to show a side of CNS many aren’t comfortable with.

So what do you riled up people want to do about it?

 

[dvldog]

I get it, but again, it's incredible when you step back and take a look at it.

I've long been openly critical of Saban about some issues - he's no more perfect than I am - but again, the 'back seat coaching' going on here is astonishingly funny.

But you weren’t doing back seat coaching just openly critical of what pray tell. That way everyone will know what can and cannot be said and we can all be better posters.


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[Chukker Veteran]

I get it, but again, it's incredible when you step back and take a look at it.

I've long been openly critical of Saban about some issues - he's no more perfect than I am - but again, the 'back seat coaching' going on here is astonishingly funny.

What I find most funny is when you point out how silly second-guessing Saban seems, a few start handing out negs.

Im just glad Saban came to his senses before he completely wrecked our program.

 

[81usaf92]

So what do you riled up people want to do about it?

Why don’t you ask them. Personally I could care less CNS does as long as he continues to win championships, but at the same token I’m not naive as many here to think what has came out about Daboll and Kiffin’s time here that isn’t pro Saban isn’t true.

 

[crimsonaudio]

But you weren’t doing back seat coaching just openly critical of what pray tell. That way everyone will know what can and cannot be said and we can all be better posters.

 

[TideFan in AU]

It is incredible, and probably won’t be replicated in our lifetimes. He is the greatest coach, but there has been credible information that suggests him and Daboll had a difference of opinion on who the qb should be. These reports really have riled people up because it’s starting to show a side of CNS many aren’t comfortable with.

Does anyone here think that CNS didn't clearly see Tua was better at throwing the ball? Tua is a phenom, but let's be real, he made some big time mistakes in against UGA that he got away with. The INT that was thrown should have never left his hand. The receivers were blocking! The sack in OT is usually a killer. That pass to Najee (who was being mugged) that Ridley "intercepted" was the kind of play that usually happens to us. It was a risky throw to say the very least. Those 3 could have gone much worse than they did, and those plays will get you beat if you do them enough.

I bet if you asked Saban off the record he tell that Tua did the best and worst things he thought possible.

Tua has the chance to maybe the best ever here. His arm talent is unbelievable, but his game will have to be cleaned up to for him to be the best. Would he have made much less mistakes if he wasn't thrust in the game expected to win it? Maybe. Probably. But the fact is those mistakes could have been the difference against TAMU, LSU, AU, Clemson, or UGA. That is why I believe CNS with experience until he longer could. It's actually the direction most coaches would have gone.

Well, except Steve Spurrier. -lol

 

[jabcmb]

I think there was a rumor that Joey Fishwater wanted Cornwall over Coker in the Ole Miss game a couple years ago. Cornwall got the start and a few interceptions later Coker came on the field and almost led the team to a win and did go on to lead the team to a National title...

I hadn’t heard that about Kiffin. Actually I think it was Cooper Bateman, not Cornwell, that started and completed a few passes (to our guys) at the start of that game. Bad day.

 

[uafanataum]

I can't imagine what would happen if we had a 2010 season.

I already have the excuse ready! We replace the OC, DC, and some position coaches this year. Hard to do that and win all your games.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

The heck of it is if a few plays went wrong, and we lost the title game, the criticism of Saban would be relentless...he pulled a guy with experience, someone who got us there, to take a chance on a freshman who had only played mop-up.

As an after thought, we've all seen Saban mellow out a little in the last few years. I'd like him to return to form one time to say how much he appreciates all the back seat coaches.

 

[81usaf92]

I think there was a rumor that Joey Fishwater wanted Cornwall over Coker in the Ole Miss game a couple years ago. Cornwall got the start and a few interceptions later Coker came on the field and almost led the team to a win and did go on to lead the team to a National title.

I don’t know if it comes down to siding with Fatboy Daboll or CNS then I am with coach on this one ... not because he is perfect or above criticism but because he is usually right.

The rumor about Kiffin and Bateman/Coker and the Ole Miss game has so many variations to count and none of them look good on either CNS or Kiffin.

As for the Daboll thing it really favors Daboll side with everything coming out. But many pumpers just can’t accept that CNS can make a mistake and many eeyores are just capitalizing on being right for once. Personally I wish Jalen led us to a championship where this wouldn’t be such an issue, but it didn’t so here we are

 

[BamaInBham]

You laugh, but he's right.

If the young WRs transferred because Tua didn't the chance, we would have been in major trouble. WR recruiting was already struggling.

But hey, you guys can continue to ignore what many have tried to say since the Auburn game.

I don't think most are ignoring reality, just trying to provide some perspective. Even though I'm likely considered an "ignorer", I pointed out weeks ago about the recruiting angle. A little criticism is not the issue - it's lack of context, perspective, propriety. But those are subjective considerations, so it's difficult to insist on it. It's kind of like the typical view often offered regarding pornography, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.". What has been happening on the part of a few, just seems inappropriate, not giving CNS the benefit of the doubt and a distraction from where the focus should be - one of the most significant and wonderful wins in Bama history, likely ushering in a light, airy, fun period, if we could just get out of our own way . It's not necessarily ignoring anything, just a different focus.

 

[TideFan in AU]

I can't imagine what would happen if we had a 2010 season.

That will probably be when CNS goes to the lake and watches the ducks crap in the yard.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

1. The rumors about WRs transferring because of Jalen and Tua is true. Admins have said that, and other board as well and it has hurt our recruiting.)
2. Who cares about Kiffin and Bateman/Coker and Daboll and Hurts/Tua situation?
3. Why is everyone so upset about Hugh Freeze? Sure, dude has some issues, but the thing is.. he can really help the offense.. so I'll take that. Put your personal concerns aside and start looking at this from business perspective.

Bottom Line... Kiffin and Daboll are gone. Whoever we hire, will do good job of running offense. Every OC we've had to this date, we all had some issues with them. Nuss ( His predictable offense), Jim ( Conservative offense) Kiffin (Jet Sweeps) Daboll (Not using RBs often, weird playcalling) and Whoever we hire next, I'm pretty sure we will complain.


Guys, we just won the championship and yet here we are... worried about hyperbole and complaining about things that shouldn't be an issue. Sit back and enjoy the process... Let the coach handle this. We will always be in hunt for the playoff every year as long Saban is here at Alabama.

 

[RTR91]

The funny thing is this inept coach started putting a plan in place after that very game to play Tua when Jalen struggled. We dominated Clemson, so he didn't put a true freshman in playoff game because there was no reason to. When Jalen clearly couldn't get it done, he put Tua.

Everybody is here is assuming that the whole team wanted Tua. I think it is nieve to believe that. There was probably a division of players who supported both.

Since we are talking about all these hypotheticals, and what ifs - what if had put Tua in the Clemson game, a close game hard fought game, and Tua took a 16 yard sack followed by a pick six or a fumble and we lost that game. You don't think there would have been players upset because the starter got pulled and the freshman "blew the game". You think the whole team would have been supportive of that?

The bottom line is that the HC has to make the decisions that is best for the whole team. This program was a dumpster fire when Saban came here, and would continued to be if Rita hadn't have 86'd Rich Rod coming here. We are on the greatest run in the history of the sport, so forgive me if I laugh at the people that act as if CNS almost destroyed their team and "wrecked the whole program".

It's not assumption. Trustworthy people have made it clear Locksley had to calm down the WRs throughout the season and Saban had a very upset locker room last Monday night at halftime.

 

[bamamick]

I think a lot of us need to take a break and let Coach do his job without having to make public our opinion. He has always put together the best staff who recruited the best players and won the most games, so why after tying Coach Bryant and blowing away the competition for the greatest coach in modern history is he open to all of this criticisms from fans? Doesn't make sense to me.

Rtr

 

[GrayTide]

Well, it is certainly his to wreck. He did land both at the Capstone in recruiting a feat that few, very few could ever have done. Do you even remember what our recruiting was like 11+ years ago? When had we ever gotten a #1 recruiting class in Tuscaloosa in the modern era? Any Era? Nope, we have all turned into a bunch of whiney nitpickers unable to comprehend what is unfolding before our eyes.:rolleye2:

Thanks for this post. Your final sentence pretty much says it all. CNS will fill all the coaching vacancies regardless of what the fans think or want as it should be.