Scott Cochran is Leaving for Georgia

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

The main reason I think this is a good thing is that by all accounts Cochran WANTED an on field coaching job. If S&C was not what he WANTED, there is no way he was doing the job to the best of his abilities. We need someone who wakes up every morning living and breathing S&C. Someone who's life goal IS to be the S&C coach at a major football program, not someone who views it as a stepping stone to something else.

Last time I checked none of the other SEC powers are getting pushed around so they have somehow survived (And thrived) without a "cochran". I seem to recall one of those teams winning some sort of title and I remember we lost to them in part because we literally weren't strong enough to tackle the smallest running back on their roster. So who was working that kid out?

Good point...…….....I think Bama will be fine, and hopefully injuries will be cut way down, especially to critical positions

 

[bamamc1]

I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.

I may be wrong but to look at him Jalen Jurts looked a lot leaner this past year than his earlier days at Bama. Anyone else think so?

 

[27rings]

I agree with the sentiment that Cochran leaving isn't necessarily a bad thing, and proves just how dumb Coach Bowl Cut is to hire someone with no experience as a Special Teams coach. I noticed the past couple seasons we had more players getting injured and defensive players just flat out getting run over by offensive players and not being able to make stops. Not saying that is all on Cochran, but I always wondered in the back of my mind was his S&C program a factor.

I also look at the training programs some of the best professional athletes are following, and the type of training they are doing. It is nothing like what Cochran is training.

 

[The Ols]

I agree with the sentiment that Cochran leaving isn't necessarily a bad thing, and proves just how dumb Coach Bowl Cut is to hire someone with no experience as a Special Teams coach. I noticed the past couple seasons we had more players getting injured and defensive players just flat out getting run over by offensive players and not being able to make stops. Not saying that is all on Cochran, but I always wondered in the back of my mind was his S&C program a factor.

I also look at the training programs some of the best professional athletes are following, and the type of training they are doing. It is nothing like what Cochran is training.

Year in and year out (lately) we (Alabama) challenge the NFL draft record of 6 first round picks. Again this year we will challenge that and possibly set a new mark at 7...very possibly.

While CSC isn't everyone's favorite right now, he is a HUGE part of that success. If we're not winning the CFPCG in a particular year, we're still tops in recruiting and on draft day and he was integral in those achievements.

I'm absolutely not celebrating coach leaving, especially to freaking Kirby, but I'm not going to fret either...

As we say often, and very successfully at Bama...

We'll win with you and we'll win without you...

Next man up!!! RTR!!!

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I wish mods would lift the cursing ban just for posts responding to DawgByte.

Guys, don't feed the trolls.

I once fell for the schtick from a notable Georgia guest. I thought he was rehabilitated into Georgia's answer to AuDub. I was impossibly, naively, wrong.

While he can occasionally dangle a reasonable position out there, it's just bait. Like many fans of other SEC teams, he hates us more than he loves his own team.

Learn from my mistakes and let him listen to the echo of his own keyboard. It's the only sound from this board he doesn't like.

I know it's poor form to quote one's own post, but it fits here.

When DogByte gloats (which is a lot), he's trying desperately for a response like you want to give. Don't do it. In fact, don't respond at all.

Like a lot of people, he hates us more than he loves Georgia. Just don't feed him!

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I appreciate all CSC did while at Bama. But I firmly believe it was time for a new set of eyes to be on our S&C program. When injuries to your team are so common that other programs are using it against you in recruiting. It's time to take a look at it. I wish CSC all the best in his personal career.

 

[KrAzY3]

The biggest takeaway here is the act of desperation from Smart. He's going to pay a guy big time money for a precious on field coaching role, who has no experience in that role. It reeks of Smart desperately trying to rebuild what Alabama had when he was there, but without the most important part.

Just to put it in context, in his four years at Georgia, Smart has lost as many games as Nick Saban has lost since 2011. He also plays in the easier division. His picture of the recruiting board isn't doing him any more good, so he has to do something I guess.

As far as Scott, of course it's a loss that matters, but if Saban wanted him on field he would have done it. This is a chance for Saban to try to find a replacement that while lacking some characteristics Scott has (there is only one of him), might have other areas of expertise.

 

[B1GTide]

My understanding is that Scott and Kirby are friends. Kirby gets to help a friend and hurt Alabama in one move (or so he hopes). The move makes sense for him.

Alabama will be Alabama. Saban will be Saban. The hunt for #18 continues.

 

[smith5753]

I know it's poor form to quote one's own post, but it fits here.

When DogByte gloats (which is a lot), he's trying desperately for a response like you want to give. Don't do it. In fact, don't respond at all.

Like a lot of people, he hates us more than he loves Georgia. Just don't feed him!

I couldn't agree more. I was mostly trying to be funny with my post.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

All this talk about how the team and the coaches bond and become a family and how the strength conditioning is a big part of it is put in perspective when the strength coach "bonds" with a team then walks out without even a goodbye.

If Cochrane was proud of this move, he wouldn't duck his former team.

Edit:
duck...to avoid or dodge.

 

[cjhadley]

All this talk about how the team and the coaches bond and become a family and how the strength conditioning is a big part of it is put in perspective when the strength coach "bonds" with a team then walks out without even a goodbye.

If Cochrane was proud of this move, he wouldn't duck his former team.

Edit:
duck...to avoid or dodge.

I don’t think it was his choice when it came to not saying goodbye to the team. I don’t think he was allowed to or at least that was my understanding from what was reported

 

[theshow4jsu_13]

Someone in an earlier post put it best. Something to the effect of "taking an expert out of his area of expertise and putting him somewhere he is unproven isn't a smart move." It's akin to seeing a good comedian and giving him a sitcom. The skills are similar but not transferable.

As someone who is studying the science of strength, I can tell you that losing CSC is not a bad thing. There are issues I have had with his training methods for a time. After looking into Feld, I think he would be a definite improvement.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

All this talk about how the team and the coaches bond and become a family and how the strength conditioning is a big part of it is put in perspective when the strength coach "bonds" with a team then walks out without even a goodbye.

If Cochrane was proud of this move, he wouldn't duck his former team.

Edit:
duck...to avoid or dodge.

All reports have him not being allowed to say goodbye...…...…..I can understand why he wasn't allowed

 

[BamaLuver]

 

[bamapuppy]

All this talk about how the team and the coaches bond and become a family and how the strength conditioning is a big part of it is put in perspective when the strength coach "bonds" with a team then walks out without even a goodbye.

If Cochrane was proud of this move, he wouldn't duck his former team.

Edit:
duck...to avoid or dodge.

I can only assume that he had not choice but to walk out, and not say goodbye to the team. I know that if I was to accept a job with a company that was a direct competitor, that I would be asked to leave immediately. So, I would not really blame him for that one.
I have this feeling that coach Saban will have a replacement really quick. And, I would not be surprised if coach Saban actually finds someone that can do a great job. Possibly even better. I have read many statements on this board, and agree with them, that there are just too many injuries in the past few years. And, we can only speculate, but S&C plays a big role in injuries. I have heard so much about how they are pushed in the gym, and that is great. But, I have also read quite a bit about the importance of rest in you conditioning. Hopefully, we can find a great S&C coach that understands the perfect balance for optimum performance. And, I suspect coach Saban already has an individual in mind.
One thing about coach Saban, he has a tremendous amount of experience, and knowledge. But, he has also shown the ability to change with the times. He is not bull headed, and stubborn. And, that is one thing that makes him Great.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

All this talk about how the team and the coaches bond and become a family and how the strength conditioning is a big part of it is put in perspective when the strength coach "bonds" with a team then walks out without even a goodbye.

If Cochrane was proud of this move, he wouldn't duck his former team.

Edit:
duck...to avoid or dodge.

I think Chris Low reported CSC didn't have the choice to speak to the team. It wasn't his decision. Regarding him leaving. It's a career move for him. Yeah, considering Smart and Saban's bad blood it probably wasn't the best move from an optics standpoint. But it's reported he really wants to be an on the field coach and obviously wasn't going to get that from Saban. We only get one time around in life and at the end of the day have to do the things necessary to accomplish our dreams. He's been at Alabama for 12 years and hasn't been promoted to an on field coach. I think he was more than patient. I have no angst against him. But I will also not have any sympathy when we completely destroy him and Kirby in September either.

 

[The Ols]

Bet ya'll didn't know Scott ran scout team ST, and did film reviews with the coaches.

I think most folks are missing this...and I personally did not know that. Thanks 81...

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Well maybe we will find out if our injury issues were just bad luck?

In all seriousness, if CNS had wanted to hire him as an on the field coach he'd still be here. It sucks but it is what it is.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I know it's poor form to quote one's own post, but it fits here.

When DogByte gloats (which is a lot), he's trying desperately for a response like you want to give. Don't do it. In fact, don't respond at all.

Like a lot of people, he hates us more than he loves Georgia. Just don't feed him!

Some of you are starting to understand 92Tide's and my own hatred of all things uga. The troll that resides on this board is actually one of the more tame ones. We Georgia residents have to live with these everyday.

 

[bamaga]

Some of you are starting to understand 92Tide's and my own hatred of all things uga. The troll that resides on this board is actually one of the more tame ones. We Georgia residents have to live with these everyday.

You left me out of that statement. Especially living and working around Atlanta!