Scott Cochran is Leaving for Georgia

I agree with 4Q Basket that the best way to handle trolls from other programs is to ignore them and do not respond regardless of how asinine their comment may be. These people, like Finebaum's regular callers, obviously have no life outside sports call in programs and spend most of their time trying to insult and incite a fan base other than theirs. Let go and try to find something productive to do with your free time.
 
Alabama made him a star, and elevated his profile way above any other strength coach nationally. It will be interesting to hear what kind of sendoff he gets. I saw one report that said he did not tell the team goodbye.
 
I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.
 
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I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.
I've watched several YouTube videos on Fields and he seems to put an emphasis on speed and that the weight room is not just about getting strong but protecting your body. I'm sure most guys at this level are really good at what they do but he seems like he would bring high energy with him and maybe some newer ideas.
 
He really loves to rub it in, doesn`t he? He professes this great respect for CNS that I just flat damn don`t believe, either.
That's my takeaway on the guy. Which isn't a surprise from a rival fan. I just personally don't understand the need to post on other teams message boards but I think it's ludacris to go to their boards to gloat and think it will be well recieved.
 
I think CSC served UA well. Whether it was indeed time for a change in S&C, perhaps so, I don`t know. If there wasn`t an all out effort to keep him, that would IMO lend credence to it. Also, we apparently have no on field coaching positions available and/or for which CNS felt him qualified.
 
Anyone who thinks that CKS has loyalty to anyone other than himself hasn't been looking very hard. He has no sense of ethics or integrity -- will do or say anything to promote himself and ergo his school. This is not surprising...he cannot develop anything himself but tries to buy it from others. Fortunately, he cannot buy intelligence, no matter how hard he tries. What goes around comes around...
 
I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.
It certainly didn't seem as though the players had a lot of endurance over the last few years........Cochran did many good things while at Bama, and I appreciate what he brought to the team............I figured once he reached that 10 year mark, he would look around. If the guy from Oregon is as good as reported, I think the S&C program will be in good hands
 
I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.

I thought the same thing. If I remember correctly, didn’t JK Scott have a drop off in performance his sophomore season? Because I seem to remember thinking that it was the way he was being trained in the weight room.
 
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It certainly didn't seem as though the players had a lot of endurance over the last few years........Cochran did many good things while at Bama, and I appreciate what he brought to the team............I figured once he reached that 10 year mark, he would look around. If the guy from Oregon is as good as reported, I think the S&C program will be in good hands
Most people need a change in job or location every 10 years or so...we develop a mentality where we cannot see the forest for the trees. While abrupt and possibly a dislocating event for UA, in the long run it can be very beneficial. I left a really good church where we were very satisfied for another after 12 years because I sensed a "staleness" in myself and them. Worked out well for all parties...though I missed them greatly.
 
I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.

I have to disagree that we haven't changed position profiles much, at least on D.

We used to have safeties like Baron, Woodall and Collins who were all 225-230 pounds. Our safeties are now in the 190 up to maybe 210 range. ILBs like McClain, Hightower, Johnson, Ragland and Depriest were all close to or over 250. The new ILB profile is 225 to 230 - which is what safeties used to be. Even across the DL, the guys are smaller. The inside tech guys are now around 310 or even smaller like Q williams, which is what our DE/Outside tech guys used to be and, and for the most part our DE/Outside guys are 10-20 pounds lighter than they used to be.

that said, and oddly, the increase in in knee/foot/ankle injuries ramped up at the same time as this shift to lighter and faster, so it does pose the question: Was there something in the way the guys were being trained that was putting to much stress on, and weakening the soft tissue supporting these joints, or maybe even just not building up the ligament and tendon strength enough to be able to deal with the torque these lighter, but significantly faster players put on those joints?
 
The main reason I think this is a good thing is that by all accounts Cochran WANTED an on field coaching job. If S&C was not what he WANTED, there is no way he was doing the job to the best of his abilities. We need someone who wakes up every morning living and breathing S&C. Someone who's life goal IS to be the S&C coach at a major football program, not someone who views it as a stepping stone to something else.

Last time I checked none of the other SEC powers are getting pushed around so they have somehow survived (And thrived) without a "cochran". I seem to recall one of those teams winning some sort of title and I remember we lost to them in part because we literally weren't strong enough to tackle the smallest running back on their roster. So who was working that kid out?
 
I'm not at all disappointed to see Cochran go. There has been something wrong in our S&C program for several years now. Cochran was such a rock star that it was tough to discuss this issue because so many people were convinced that CSC was the greatest thing ever. He was good, I'm not trying to make it sound like he was bad, but I don't think his approach to S&C had changed with the times. I said 7-8 years ago that we were bulking our guys up too much and we needed to start emphasizing bulk less and speed more. We may have made slight changes in that area but it seems like we're still doing that. For all the hype surrounding our S&C program it didn't seem like our conditioning was all that great compared to the other top-notch programs and I attribute that to too players carrying too much bulk.
Looking at the rash of injuries over the last several years there had to be questions about S&C. I had become increasingly concerned, as well about leaving our game in the weight room. As we look at 13 game seasons stretching from August to February the following year there has to be more consideration given to getting to the end of the season intact. As heretical as it is to say... some other teams appear to have a sounder approach to getting to that point than CSC.
 
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Look, I'm going to say something profound so pay attention! CNS is in charge at the UofA football team. The sun will come up tomorrow. It's all good.
I can vouch for this, it did. I'm just jealous that UGA now gets to draw that vast special teams knowledge that Cochran undoubtedly had stored up. It seemed like he would have shared some of it what with all the ST troubles we've had recently.
 
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I have to disagree that we haven't changed position profiles much, at least on D.

We used to have safeties like Baron, Woodall and Collins who were all 225-230 pounds. Our safeties are now in the 190 up to maybe 210 range. ILBs like McClain, Hightower, Johnson, Ragland and Depriest were all close to or over 250. The new ILB profile is 225 to 230 - which is what safeties used to be. Even across the DL, the guys are smaller. The inside tech guys are now around 310 or even smaller like Q williams, which is what our DE/Outside tech guys used to be and, and for the most part our DE/Outside guys are 10-20 pounds lighter than they used to be.

that said, and oddly, the increase in in knee/foot/ankle injuries ramped up at the same time as this shift to lighter and faster, so it does pose the question: Was there something in the way the guys were being trained that was putting to much stress on, and weakening the soft tissue supporting these joints, or maybe even just not building up the ligament and tendon strength enough to be able to deal with the torque these lighter, but significantly faster players put on those joints?
It’s usually from putting on muscle to fast and the ligaments can’t handle the torque and force of the new muscle.
 
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