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I'm in a bind, being a field service tech in a sensitive field lol. Spent all day the past two days in the VA Hospital in Nashville, and I am on call 24/7 for every dialysis clinic in the state of Alabama.

And I can't not go out lol. Dialysis clinics absolutely must be able to operate, even now. Hope I dodge the bullet.
I really feel for people in your position. As I posted yesterday, I've largely worked from home for 25 years. It fits for the type of law practice I have. I'm glad I don't have a courtroom practice for more than one reason. Right now, I need only go out for necessities...
 
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I'm in a bind, being a field service tech in a sensitive field lol. Spent all day the past two days in the VA Hospital in Nashville, and I am on call 24/7 for every dialysis clinic in the state of Alabama.

And I can't not go out lol. Dialysis clinics absolutely must be able to operate, even now. Hope I dodge the bullet.
Be safe, but steer clear of those more vulnerable just in case. If virologists are right, most of us will get this eventually. We just need to try to protect those more endangered as much as we can.
 
I came to the Politics board to perhaps have some conversation with a few conservatives here. I felt that since many posters were from the South I could find a fair amount of conservatives. That did not turn out to be the case. Perhaps instead of having the forum heading read "Enter at your own risk" It should be modified to read "Conservatives, enter at your own risk". I always try to keep an open mind in political issues and will say nobody was more critical of George W. Bush than I. So before I say anything more, and possibly become branded as an internet troll I'll say goodbye for now and return for football season.

To start, thanks for joining the conversation. I am always excited when we get a brave new soul willing to wade into the non sports politics forum.

I wouldn’t leave yet. Most of the people here like to focus on arguments and discussions that have a basis in fact and are backed up with reputable sources.

All that being said, I think it is dangerous to label people who are unwilling to buy the tales being spun by this administration as inherently not conservative. Please join the conversation, but if you want to start an actual dialog or conversation, drive by comments will more often result in one line comments or snark than any actual dialog.

We tend to be fairly wordy, so don’t be afraid to be more verbose.

Now, a little background as to why most on here have little patience for the lies coming out of this administration. There are at least two people in the medical industry, who have front line stories they have shared. There are many more engineers, scientists, lawyers, and others who trust in a fact based approach towards figuring out a problem.

Epidemiologists have long described what happens in a highly infectious outbreak. The well established and accepted information on outbreaks and pandemics have proven to accurately model the current progression in all of the countries. This modeling is the same modeling that the Trump administration have said would absolutely not happen in the US. It is now happening in the US.

Why did I lay all this out? I think by and large, many who are still at least moderately on Trumps side see much of the conversation from Trump skeptics as hyperbolic, hysterical, and fear mongering. Which actually makes sense if you think about it. You seem willing to give this administration at least the benefit of the doubt. Many here have long given up on expecting any action or statement by the president to be truthful. When the President is denying that epidemiological models will affect the US while also claiming that the Coronavirus severity is a hoax, the only real avenue for discussion is to use those models to explain just how wrong he is.

If that process makes someone anti-conservative, then in essence that means that science and math is anti-conservative.

In any event, more voices, placing checks and balances on the group think are always good in any community. Please hang out, have some discussions, and don’t take requests for proof and facts as an attack against you. It is merely the process by which we can refine ideas and arguments. You would be surprised how many people around here have and are willing to change their position on many things. One position that is almost universally immutable is whether facts and truth actually matter.
 
On a side note, I’ve taken your advice on the DIM and vitamin K-2. I did some reading on both and it was sound advice. I bought a 60 day supply and it’s not expensive. Thank you.
Just a quick note on K-2. I have been taking now for several years and was shopping yesterday online. I noticed that a number of products were MK-4. Based on my reading MK-7, made from natto a fermented Soy product popular in Japan, is more bioavailable and a considerable longer half life than MK-4 .
 
and they will say democrats actively blocked them from acting
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I came to the Politics board to perhaps have some conversation with a few conservatives here. I felt that since many posters were from the South I could find a fair amount of conservatives. That did not turn out to be the case. Perhaps instead of having the forum heading read "Enter at your own risk" It should be modified to read "Conservatives, enter at your own risk". I always try to keep an open mind in political issues and will say nobody was more critical of George W. Bush than I. So before I say anything more, and possibly become branded as an internet troll I'll say goodbye for now and return for football season.
I guess you'd be surprised how many conservatives are here - it's just most aren't Trump fans.
 
Just a quick note on K-2. I have been taking now for several years and was shopping yesterday online. I noticed that a number of products were MK-4. Based on my reading MK-7, made from natto a fermented Soy product popular in Japan, is more bioavailable and a considerable longer half life than MK-4 .
Correct. The Amazon link I provided is for MK-7. BTW, the virus is in our backyard now...

Marshall SFC
 
I think most of us are just tired of Trump and Alabama politics that we have moved closer to middle. It’s stuff like the tweets below.


He forgot that his boy Trump and Nancy agreed on the bill. All others from the state voted YES for it.
From his history, he hasn't had time to make sure Big Pharma is protected, which affects his contract with them...
 
I guess you'd be surprised how many conservatives are here - it's just most aren't Trump fans.
Since I've always respected your views on the football forum CA I'll respond to your post. I'm not ashamed to say I do support the President on a lot of issues. Why? Because Trump is considered by many as a Nationalist. I'm so tired of the Globalists of the past (George W. Bush in particular) Their notion that outsourcing jobs to other countries to help them get rich and powerful would help the U.S. is ridiculous IMO. I talked politics with a co-worker 20 years ago and every day we talked about the issues that Trump campaigned on to get elected. We both felt 20 years ago that NAFTA was a disaster, that China was a threat, and illegal immigration was a major problem. Right now the opponent on the Democrat side Mr. Biden was in favor of NAFTA, does not view China as a threat and is in favor making all illegals American citizens and even inviting more, so I cannot support him. I was a big fan of other Nationalists of the past including Pat Buchanan and the late Ross Perot. I felt they were spot on but there just wasn't enough frustration with Globalism at the time for them to gain traction.

Maybe Trump's response to the virus wasn't perfect but there is a lot of government bureaucracy that Presidents must deal with, and shocking to someone new to government like Trump. Some of the people within agencies have been there through many Administrations and have a their standard operating procedures. I've read that some bureaucratic restrictions may have been part of what caused a delay of testing for the virus. Of course to those on the Left it's just nonsense, it's ALL Trump's fault. If an asteroid would strike Earth it would be all Trump's fault. Maybe one mistake Trump makes is to assume these bureaucrats are all competent and know what they are doing. In 1979 I learned big time how the government can screw up and delay responses because I lived about 40 miles East of Three Mile island. Nobody knew the extent of the accident for a while. Nobody knew how much radiation was released or whether evacuation was needed. I didn't really blame the leadership at the time because I sensed the problem was the system.
 
Since I've always respected your views on the football forum CA I'll respond to your post. I'm not ashamed to say I do support the President on a lot of issues. Why? Because Trump is considered by many as a Nationalist. I'm so tired of the Globalists of the past (George W. Bush in particular) Their notion that outsourcing jobs to other countries to help them get rich and powerful would help the U.S. is ridiculous IMO. I talked politics with a co-worker 20 years ago and every day we talked about the issues that Trump campaigned on to get elected. We both felt 20 years ago that NAFTA was a disaster, that China was a threat, and illegal immigration was a major problem. Right now the opponent on the Democrat side Mr. Biden was in favor of NAFTA, does not view China as a threat and is in favor making all illegals American citizens and even inviting more, so I cannot support him. I was a big fan of other Nationalists of the past including Pat Buchanan and the late Ross Perot. I felt they were spot on but there just wasn't enough frustration with Globalism at the time for them to gain traction.

Maybe Trump's response to the virus wasn't perfect but there is a lot of government bureaucracy that Presidents must deal with, and shocking to someone new to government like Trump. Some of the people within agencies have been there through many Administrations and have a their standard operating procedures. I've read that some bureaucratic restrictions may have been part of what caused a delay of testing for the virus. Of course to those on the Left it's just nonsense, it's ALL Trump's fault. If an asteroid would strike Earth it would be all Trump's fault. Maybe one mistake Trump makes is to assume these bureaucrats are all competent and know what they are doing. In 1979 I learned big time how the government can screw up and delay responses because I lived about 40 miles East of Three Mile island. Nobody knew the extent of the accident for a while. Nobody knew how much radiation was released or whether evacuation was needed. I didn't really blame the leadership at the time because I sensed the problem was the system.
What about the handling of the US's response to this virus would you lay at Trump's feet? Let's forget everything else that he did right or wrong in his time in office and just focus on this. Are you satisfied with America's response and readiness?
 
Correct. The Amazon link I provided is for MK-7. BTW, the virus is in our backyard now...

Marshall SFC
Just a quick note on K-2. I have been taking now for several years and was shopping yesterday online. I noticed that a number of products were MK-4. Based on my reading MK-7, made from natto a fermented Soy product popular in Japan, is more bioavailable and a considerable longer half life than MK-4 .
Thanks, mine is the MK-7
 
What about the handling of the US's response to this virus would you lay at Trump's feet? Let's forget everything else that he did right or wrong in his time in office and just focus on this. Are you satisfied with America's response and readiness?
I would say if Trump made a mistake it was trusting the system too much. Maybe he felt a system was in place where there were highly competent people around him to make fast decisions in an emergency. Coming from the private sector into government he probably underestimated the slowness of the system. We know how slow things go when we need help from the government and have to go though a lot of red tape to get it. I think once he recognized the slowness of the system he kicked a few butts and got things moving.
 
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I would say if Trump made a mistake it was trusting the system too much. Maybe he felt a system was in place where there were highly competent people around him to make fast decisions in an emergency. Coming from the private sector into government he probably underestimated the slowness of the system. We know how slow things go when we need help from the government and have to go though a lot of red tape to get it. I think once he recognized the slowness of the system he kicked a few butts and got things moving.
Thanks for answering. See you on the FB boards.

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Since I've always respected your views on the football forum CA I'll respond to your post. I'm not ashamed to say I do support the President on a lot of issues. Why? Because Trump is considered by many as a Nationalist. I'm so tired of the Globalists of the past (George W. Bush in particular) Their notion that outsourcing jobs to other countries to help them get rich and powerful would help the U.S. is ridiculous IMO. I talked politics with a co-worker 20 years ago and every day we talked about the issues that Trump campaigned on to get elected. We both felt 20 years ago that NAFTA was a disaster, that China was a threat, and illegal immigration was a major problem. Right now the opponent on the Democrat side Mr. Biden was in favor of NAFTA, does not view China as a threat and is in favor making all illegals American citizens and even inviting more, so I cannot support him. I was a big fan of other Nationalists of the past including Pat Buchanan and the late Ross Perot. I felt they were spot on but there just wasn't enough frustration with Globalism at the time for them to gain traction.

Maybe Trump's response to the virus wasn't perfect but there is a lot of government bureaucracy that Presidents must deal with, and shocking to someone new to government like Trump. Some of the people within agencies have been there through many Administrations and have a their standard operating procedures. I've read that some bureaucratic restrictions may have been part of what caused a delay of testing for the virus. Of course to those on the Left it's just nonsense, it's ALL Trump's fault. If an asteroid would strike Earth it would be all Trump's fault. Maybe one mistake Trump makes is to assume these bureaucrats are all competent and know what they are doing. In 1979 I learned big time how the government can screw up and delay responses because I lived about 40 miles East of Three Mile island. Nobody knew the extent of the accident for a while. Nobody knew how much radiation was released or whether evacuation was needed. I didn't really blame the leadership at the time because I sensed the problem was the system.
FWIW, it’s obvious you are intelligent and you have genuine concerns. Sometimes we can pile on. I think if you hang around for a while you will find the NS board enlightening. CA, Earle, NT17, myself and others are conservatives. Others are progressive. Even so in these strange times we find ourselves agreeing with each other.

Bazza is a Trump guy but he’s a Gator fan so piling on is allowed.;)
 
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