News Article: Hawaii Coach Todd Graham blames Transfer Portal after 12 players leave program amid mistreatment allegations

[bamagradinATL]

Hawaii coach Todd Graham blames transfer portal after 12 players leave program amid mistreatment allegations

Hawaii's starting quarterback, leading rusher, leading receiver and leading tackler have all entered the transfer portal.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[TIDE-HSV]

So, he runs off a dozen players and blames their leaving on the fact that he has no way to prevent it? If he hasn't learned by now that a HC can no longer get away with the acts he's accused of, he won't be in coaching much longer...

 

[CrimsonTheory]

Hawaii coach Todd Graham blames transfer portal after 12 players leave program amid mistreatment allegations

Hawaii's starting quarterback, leading rusher, leading receiver and leading tackler have all entered the transfer portal.

sports.yahoo.com

Is Todd Graham taking his cues from that wrestler who nearly killed the referee a little while ago? Basically blaming everybody/everything else but the real problem at hand....the individual (in this case, Graham) himself.

 

[AlistarWills]

So, he runs off a dozen players and blames their leaving on the fact that he has no way to prevent it? If he hasn't learned by now that a HC can no longer get away with the acts he's accused of, he won't be in coaching much longer...

Never understood why coaches felt the need to talk to players like that. It’s one thing I respected Malzahn for. Heard he wouldn’t do it and players said they’d rather get dog cussed than have him dress them down. Cursing at the kids rampant at the HS level which really baffles me, because it’s a teacher addressing a student. They wouldn’t do it in a classroom, wouldn’t to a 2nd grader, then why is it ok in the realm of athletics?

 

[B1GTide]

Never understood why coaches felt the need to talk to players like that. It’s one thing I respected Malzahn for. Heard he wouldn’t do it and players said they’d rather get dog cussed than have him dress them down. Cursing at the kids rampant at the HS level which really baffles me, because it’s a teacher addressing a student. They wouldn’t do it in a classroom, wouldn’t to a 2nd grader, then why is it ok in the realm of athletics?

I don't care if a coach curses. They are just words. The pain comes from denigrating players, not using curse words when mad. Call me names or call me worthless without cursing at me and I will feel no better about the exchange.

 

[bamagradinATL]

So, he runs off a dozen players and blames their leaving on the fact that he has no way to prevent it? If he hasn't learned by now that a HC can no longer get away with the acts he's accused of, he won't be in coaching much longer...

I agree 100%. His days as a HC are numbered.

 

[seebell]

At my son's high school we had a short stop who made a bone headed play and essentially cost the team the game. The coach jerked him out of the game, said a few choice curse words and shoved he player toward the dug out. What surprised me was how many parents and fans said " The kids need that kind of discipline. It's good for 'em". That could be considered assault. Why tolerate that kind of behavior because it happens on an playing field.? Young people today don't respond to that kind of ill treatment.

 

[rolltide_21]

Todd Graham is a loser in more ways than one. Coaches like him make excuses for their short comings.

 

[Cruloc]

Doesn't Graham already have a reputation for acting this way with players. He's not a good person, he talks to his players like they are dogs. Shows his mental and emotional immaturity.

 

[BamaInBham]

At my son's high school we had a short stop who made a bone headed play and essentially cost the team the game. The coach jerked him out of the game, said a few choice curse words and shoved he player toward the dug out. What surprised me was how many parents and fans said " The kids need that kind of discipline. It's good for 'em". That could be considered assault. Why tolerate that kind of behavior because it happens on an playing field.? Young people today don't respond to that kind of ill treatment.

I agree. Frankly, I don’t think many have ever responded very well to that kind of treatment. They might have taken it, endured and overcome it, but they had to overcome it.

IMO, even laziness and defiance doesn’t warrant it. In those cases just calmly let them go - quickly.

 

[JayBama_in_PCOLA]

Well, that’s underhanded Of him. He should have just shut his mouth and kept it moving. Well, that’s going to destroy him.

 

[Ledsteplin]

The Athletic director, Matlin, also blames the portal. And everyone in the know says Hawaii can't afford Graham's buy out.

 

[stlimprov]

So Todd Graham can't figure out how to utilize the transfer portal to pick up some decent players who wouldn't mind spending a few years in HAWAII? Not only that, but you're enough of a pain that people are opting to leave HAWAII.
Yeah...the problem must be that it's too easy to leave HAWAII.

 

[CullmanTide]

The Athletic director, Matlin, also blames the portal. And everyone in the know says Hawaii can't afford Graham's buy out.

If the school worded the contract properly, they may not need to pay a buyout.

 

[Probius]

At my son's high school we had a short stop who made a bone headed play and essentially cost the team the game. The coach jerked him out of the game, said a few choice curse words and shoved he player toward the dug out. What surprised me was how many parents and fans said " The kids need that kind of discipline. It's good for 'em". That could be considered assault. Why tolerate that kind of behavior because it happens on an playing field.? Young people today don't respond to that kind of ill treatment.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in our culture who believe this. I even know many people in my own family who believe that kids learn by being yelled at and berated. I don't know where this belief comes from, but I wish it would go away.

I agree that young people today don't respond to that kind of ill treatment, but I'm not sure young people in the past did either. My father still talks about how he was treated when he played football in high school. They made him continue to practice after he got a concussion once. They also wouldn't let players drink water until after the practice ended. They seemed to have been as hard on the players as possible just for the sake of being hard on them. My father still resents his coach to this day because of the way he was treated.

That old way of thinking is dying out, but it's still out there. I just hope that way of thinking goes away and does so fast.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

For those who doesn't get it:

Inside the miserable tenure of Hawaii football coach Todd Graham (sfgate.com)

 

[Cruloc]

For those who doesn't get it:

Inside the miserable tenure of Hawaii football coach Todd Graham (sfgate.com)

Its to the point where assistant coaches won't talk to Graham because they don't want to be yelled at....and the kids see it right there in front of them on a daily basis. He's lost that program.

 

[AlistarWills]

At my son's high school we had a short stop who made a bone headed play and essentially cost the team the game. The coach jerked him out of the game, said a few choice curse words and shoved he player toward the dug out. What surprised me was how many parents and fans said " The kids need that kind of discipline. It's good for 'em". That could be considered assault. Why tolerate that kind of behavior because it happens on an playing field.? Young people today don't respond to that kind of ill treatment.

To further the HS problem, if you try to put a stop to it by confronting the coaching staff, or go to the school administration, you can forget your child or their siblings ever getting to participate in anything again. At least that was/is the situation at my kids school.
I recall a friend who walked on at UAB back when Jim Hilyer was the HC. Jim liked to take the Lord’s name in vain. The friend finally had enough and told him that my name ain’t God and his last name ain’t…. The issue stopped, at least in my friends direction.

 

[day-day]

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I agree that young people today don't respond to that kind of ill treatment, but I'm not sure young people in the past did either. My father still talks about how he was treated when he played football in high school. They made him continue to practice after he got a concussion once. They also wouldn't let players drink water until after the practice ended. They seemed to have been as hard on the players as possible just for the sake of being hard on them. My father still resents his coach to this day because of the way he was treated.
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Coaches felt they were making players better conditioned, tougher, and stronger with no water during practice; it wasn't just for the sake of being hard on them. The first time I heard of the concept of drinking water during practices and workouts was from my boxing coach in 1977. I believe this was about the timeframe in which this "new way" of thinking was starting to make the rounds.

Practice, conditioning, and health all improve when maintaining a better level of hydration which was opposite of the belief of many coaches before that time. Coach Bryant mentioned something about this and when he started having water breaks during practice but I don't know the year.

 

[Probius]

Coaches felt they were making players better conditioned, tougher, and stronger with no water during practice; it wasn't just for the sake of being hard on them. The first time I heard of the concept of drinking water during practices and workouts was from my boxing coach in 1977. I believe this was about the timeframe in which this "new way" of thinking was starting to make the rounds.

Practice, conditioning, and health all improve when maintaining a better level of hydration which was opposite of the belief of many coaches before that time. Coach Bryant mentioned something about this and when he started having water breaks during practice but I don't know the year.

I don't think I was clear. I don't think the coaches actually held back water for the reason of being hard on the players, but that's what it seems like. Looking at it from the outside, that's the appearance the whole thing has. It's as if they were just trying to be mean. I figured they had some reason for doing what they were doing. It was just like they were in the stone ages but we are only talking about the the late '60's to early '70's.