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Chick-Fil-A goes woke.

Just wait and see what happens when they start opening on Sundays. It will be the end of the world for a lot of the evangelical types. Frankly, in my opinion CFA is the most overrated fast-food joint on this planet.
 

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Just wait and see what happens when they start opening on Sundays. It will be the end of the world for a lot of the evangelical types. Frankly, in my opinion CFA is the most overrated fast-food joint on this planet.
NO DOUBT! I have no idea what the craze is about. My wife and daughter go nuts over CFA and I have no idea why. The ONLY thing I would say that is pretty good is their waffle fries. But the chicken sandwiches are "meh, what's the big deal over this?" type of "good".

Regarding the article, I didn't read anything in it that would indicate they are going to make the same business mistake Target and Bud Light made. In light of the financial backlash that is currently hitting both of them, I highly doubt CFA comes close to making decisions that even have a reflection of what they did.
 
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NO DOUBT! I have no idea what the craze is about. My wife and daughter go nuts over CFA and I have no idea why. The ONLY thing I would say that is pretty good is their waffle fries. But the chicken sandwiches are "meh, what's the big deal over this?" type of "good".

Regarding the article, I didn't read anything in it that would indicate they are going to make the same business mistake Target and Bud Light made. In light of the financial backlash that is currently hitting both of them, I highly doubt CFA even comes close to making decisions that even have a reflection of what they did.
CFA would be crazy to dip their toe into this water. If they are dumb enough to do it then their whole leg will get bitten off. A huge part of their customer base is conservative, and they will just go somewhere else. On some level, conservatives have finally said forget these companies I can shop somewhere else or buy something else. The left has been pressuring companies for years while the right really didn't on social issues. This is basically a 50/50 country at this point, and conservatives buy stuff too. I know all of them won't participate, but you get a bunch of soccer moms not going to Target or buying the kids lunch at CFA and it will hurt.
 

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CFA would be crazy to dip their toe into this water. If they are dumb enough to do it then their whole leg will get bitten off. A huge part of their customer base is conservative, and they will just go somewhere else. On some level, conservatives have finally said forget these companies I can shop somewhere else or buy something else. The left has been pressuring companies for years while the right really didn't on social issues. This is basically a 50/50 country at this point, and conservatives buy stuff too. I know all of them won't participate, but you get a bunch of soccer moms not going to Target or buying the kids lunch at CFA and it will hurt.
Bud Light and Target's decisions baffle me, especially Bud Light's. I worked in the gaming industry for Harrah's and they were BIIIIIIG on knowing who made up their customer base in the locations they had properties. The bulk of Bud Light's customer base has always been middle-class conservative white people. I would say until kraft beers hit the market you could also throw in upper-middle-class white people. But as kraft beer has found its place in the market, a lot of upper-middle-class whites have gravitated in that direction. Why would a business do something that would tick off the bulk of the people who buy their product to endorse a group of people who either made up a fraction of their sales or honestly never drink their beer, to begin with? Simply made ZERO business sense.
 

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Bud Light and Target's decisions baffle me, especially Bud Light's. I worked in the gaming industry for Harrah's and they were BIIIIIIG on knowing who made up their customer base in the locations they had properties. The bulk of Bud Light's customer base has always been middle-class conservative white people. I would say until kraft beers hit the market you could also throw in upper-middle-class white people. But as kraft beer has found its place in the market, a lot of upper-middle-class whites have gravitated in that direction. Why would a business do something that would tick off the bulk of the people who buy their product to endorse a group of people who either made up a fraction of their sales or honestly never drink their beer, to begin with? Simply made ZERO business sense.
How much pressure are some companies feeling due to ESG scores and the like? Major firms like Blackrock, State Street, and Vanguard use their proxy voting shares to push their viewpoints and even banks are using it to decide on approving financial services in some instances. Are companies doing some of these things to earn brownie points in those areas thinking no one will care or is it just what the upper level management want to do?
 

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How much pressure are some companies feeling due to ESG scores and the like? Major firms like Blackrock, State Street, and Vanguard use their proxy voting shares to push their viewpoints and even banks are using it to decide on approving financial services in some instances. Are companies doing some of these things to earn brownie points in those areas thinking no one will care or is it just what the upper level management want to do?
It's called forgetting who ultimately pays the bills, the customers.
 
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Maybe they didn’t know that their customers were a bunch of snowflakes that would freak out over one beer can that was not intended for the general public.
 
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CFA would be crazy to dip their toe into this water. If they are dumb enough to do it then their whole leg will get bitten off.
No, you don't realize how passionate people who like Chick-fil-a are about those nuggets and waffle fries. Especially women.

Chick-fil-a is easily the best run fast food franchise. They have the best employees and the most efficient operation from a customer's POV.

Food trumps politics.
 

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No, you don't realize how passionate people who like Chick-fil-a are about those nuggets and waffle fries. Especially women.

Chick-fil-a is easily the best run fast food franchise. They have the best employees and the most efficient operation from a customer's POV.

Food trumps politics.
chick-fil-a's best bet (and i'm sure they know this) is to ignore these panty waists
 
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No, you don't realize how passionate people who like Chick-fil-a are about those nuggets and waffle fries. Especially women.

Chick-fil-a is easily the best run fast food franchise. They have the best employees and the most efficient operation from a customer's POV.

Food trumps politics.
I can't argue with any of this. They are a well-run machine and it doesn't matter how many people they are serving, it runs just as smooth with 30 cars in the drive-thru and 50 people inside as it does with 2 in the drive-thru and 5 people inside. They have it down to a science.
 
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This is basically a 50/50 country at this point...
This is what the conservative media tries and clearly successfully in your post preaches. We are really hundreds to thousands of different ideological groups all being courted by the two biggest parties with a minority voting block with most people being left out of political all together.

When it comes down to actual personal beliefs, we split all kinds of ways that the conservative/liberal ideas cannot actually represent.

 
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Maybe they didn’t know that their customers were a bunch of snowflakes that would freak out over one beer can that was not intended for the general public.
That is still Bud Light's fault. Have they not been paying attention to the social and political climate in this country for the past 15 years? Play stupid marketing games, win stupid financial prizes. This is no one's fault but their own.
 
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I can't argue with any of this. They are a well-run machine and it doesn't matter how many people they are serving, it runs just as smooth with 30 cars in the drive-thru and 50 people inside as it does with 2 in the drive-thru and 5 people inside. They have it down to a science.
their employees are very well trained as well
 

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